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Mancunian White

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Rudd - ?
Clarke - January
Cunningham - January
Davies - 2 weeks
Spurr - 4 months
Maguire - 3-4 months
Fisher - 2 weeks
Woods - 3-4 weeks
Earl - 3-4 weeks

Who've I missed? What are our guesses at lengths of absence for the ones I've left blank?
 
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Clarke and Cunningham are Xmas/January time.

AN thinks Earl/Woods will be back after this international break.

Fisher is supposedly minor groin strain, should be back after this break hopefully. Would think similar for Davies too.

We should have enough decent options for the Bolton game at the back. A big concern though right now is our toothless attack too.
 
kbd_pne said:
Clarke and Cunningham are Xmas/January time.

AN thinks Earl/Woods will be back after this international break.

Fisher is supposedly minor groin strain, should be back after this break hopefully. Would think similar for Davies too.

We should have enough decent options for the Bolton game at the back. A big concern though right now is our toothless attack too.
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Hopefully regarding fisher? He's been very poor last while. Little defensive nous & leaves acres of space as doesn't get back. Think Boyles done well both games he's played. AN need to look at midfield options. Defence was far too exposed today. No protection at all. Pearson been very poor last 3 games
 
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Pearson, was rumoured to be injured, but should be ok for the Bolton game. They will know more on Monday.

Question has to be why so many injuries? Training? Bad Man Management (over worked)? Players themselves?

Also as said on Sky, we need to drop the Zonal Marking as it's clearly not working for us. Dunno if we did it today.
 
dubnorthender83 said:
Hopefully regarding fisher? He's been very poor last while. Little defensive nous & leaves acres of space as doesn't get back. Think Boyles done well both games he's played. AN need to look at midfield options. Defence was far too exposed today. No protection at all. Pearson been very poor last 3 games
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Watch how Vermijl defenders the 2nd goal today. That is why I want Fisher starting. He is limited but generally very steady defensively.
 
kbd_pne said:
Watch how Vermijl defenders the 2nd goal today. That is why I want Fisher starting. He is limited but generally very steady defensively.
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I was at it. He was poor for the goal. But generally covered the area better than fisher does. Leaves the right side so open as doesn't get back when he attacks
 
Mancunian White said:
Rudd - ?
Clarke - January
Cunningham - January
Davies - 2 weeks
Spurr - 4 months
Maguire - 3-4 months
Fisher - 2 weeks
Woods - 3-4 weeks
Earl - 3-4 weeks

Who've I missed? What are our guesses at lengths of absence for the ones I've left blank?
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Rudd resumes full training during the international break. Let's hope he doesn't get another tweak, we could do with him breathing down Maxwell's neck.
 
How we miss Clarke and Cunningham can't wait to see them back. Also need Rudd with the mistakes Maxwell keeps making.

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Conspiracy Theory Alert

I m wondering whether the players( that are left) are concerned about ANs training / pressing game / high tempo approach and are kind of holding back a bit with a fear of picking up an injury.
 
FootballcrazyP_ said:
Pearson, was rumoured to be injured, but should be ok for the Bolton game. They will know more on Monday.

Question has to be why so many injuries? Training? Bad Man Management (over worked)? Players themselves?

Also as said on Sky, we need to drop the Zonal Marking as it's clearly not working for us. Dunno if we did it today.
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We've only conceded 1 goal from a corner this season according to Neil so why does it need to change? The Villa goal was really really bad but I'm not sure Neil is going to change what he's worked on since July due to conceding 1 goal.
 
dubnorthender83 said:
I was at it. He was poor for the goal. But generally covered the area better than fisher does. Leaves the right side so open as doesn't get back when he attacks
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Vermijl’s been here long enough to improve defensively now. He’s not up to it.

As for zonal vs man marking, I think Neil did it because we aren’t that tall/big compared to other sides. The last time we did man marking was at Derby away and we gave away a pen from a foul at a corner because we looked like a shambles.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
Vermijl’s been here long enough to improve defensively now. He’s not up to it.

As for zonal vs man marking, I think Neil did it because we aren’t that tall/big compared to other sides. The last time we did man marking was at Derby away and we gave away a pen from a foul at a corner because we looked like a shambles.
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and the last time we tried zonal marking as mentioned earlier we looked like the penguins on je sans frontier !
Tall, big, short or tall its not hard to man mark, lets leave the zonal stuff to our premiership continental managers ?
 
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Tino said:
We've only conceded 1 goal from a corner this season according to Neil so why does it need to change? The Villa goal was really really bad but I'm not sure Neil is going to change what he's worked on since July due to conceding 1 goal.
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Spot on, we shipped goals for fun at the end of last season from set pieces whilst using man to man marking. The changed system has done wonders in that department, but because it's zonal marking it only has to go wrong once before everyone calls for it to be axed.
 
edgy said:
and the last time we tried zonal marking as mentioned earlier we looked like the penguins on je sans frontier !
Tall, big, short or tall its not hard to man mark, lets leave the zonal stuff to our premiership continental managers ?
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We actually tend to do a bit of half and half marking. 4/5 player usually mark a zone, and a couple of our defenders pick up the oppositions biggest threat man to man. It's actually worked very very well in general.
 
Nishtar36 said:
We actually tend to do a bit of half and half marking. 4/5 player usually mark a zone, and a couple of our defenders pick up the oppositions biggest threat man to man. It's actually worked very very well in general.
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a sort of middle ground ?
If I am brutally honest wit myself there have been times when I really haven't been too sure what we are actually representing on the pitch from practice but now you've suggested the 50/50 it sort of makes sense (i think !!)
 
It is often said that the reason to go man to man is because when you concede you know exactly who was to blame. So it's not because it's better than keeping the ball out of the net in the first place?

I can't say I'm a fan of it but what do I know and it probably stems from how it looks before the kick is taken, for some reason it just doesn't look right, but I suppose it frees up our best headers of the ball to attack it every time rather than trying to mark an opposition player who may drag them out of the danger zone.
 
Mancunian White said:
Rudd - ?
Clarke - January
Cunningham - January
Davies - 2 weeks
Spurr - 4 months
Maguire - 3-4 months
Fisher - 2 weeks
Woods - 3-4 weeks
Earl - 3-4 weeks

Who've I missed? What are our guesses at lengths of absence for the ones I've left blank?
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I've blackened my left thumb and bruised my right knee, but I should be good for Bolton.
 
Lee Trundle said:
Spot on, we shipped goals for fun at the end of last season from set pieces whilst using man to man marking. The changed system has done wonders in that department, but because it's zonal marking it only has to go wrong once before everyone calls for it to be axed.
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This. Such a stigma around anything remotely progressive at our level. They're well paid professional footballers, more than capable of handling it.
 
I would imagine that if you could look at the ratio of how many goals teams concede from set-pieces with either marking system, the number conceded would be fairly similar over the course of a season. It’s just what suits your players best that counts and we aren’t the biggest side.
 
When it comes down to it, you still need to react to the situation. Whichever player has the responsibility (and there will always be one who's ball it is) needs to be aware and strong enough to make the clearance whichever system is used. If individual errors are made you're fucked in any case.
 
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