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Is Lowe evolving?

Is Lowe evolving?

MrBoomBoom said:
No trolling through threads, I remember your posts very clearly. In fact a few of us even suggested it wasn’t a fair comparison at the time, with a strike force of Archer & Akpom. Not looking very good without them, is he (which is what we suggested previously).

No idea why the need for insults from you or Cali? It’s a forum, posts will catchup on you, it’s no biggie.
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Yep I said Carlton morris would be a flop and he didn’t. I made a prediction and got it wrong. It happens but I owned it. Some people it seems can’t do the same.

I also got called a clown for saying I would rather have Ryan Lowe than Tony Mowbray. I still stand by that but the people who called me out for that now cry when they get called out. I think some people on here need to get a better backbone.
 
HunterLionheart said:
Perfectly put. Crowing after 5 games of effectively pragmatic football where variance has gone our way is setting yourself up for a fall. We're all happy to be top, but trying to point score like we've already won the league is full Plastic behaviour.
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Yet the negative ones (you know who you are) would have dominated this forum saying ‘where are the positive ones now’ and ‘I told people Lowe was shit’ had we been bottom after five games. That’s a fact.

It makes a change the forum being positive for a change but let me be clear had we been bottom there would have been people trying to point score for us being bottom. So let’s enjoy it, accept we are doing well. And if it goes tits up I am sure you will be on here point scoring as well.

Another point. Throughout pre season we had fans calling other fans out taking the mick for being patient. It was mainly negative. Moaning about meaningless friendly results and not signing anyone. They attacked anyone who was remotely positive and called them ‘happy clappers.’

Well the ‘happy clappers’ were right to be patient.
 
RibbletonWhite2.0 said:
Yep I said Carlton morris would be a flop and he didn’t. I made a prediction and got it wrong. It happens but I owned it. Some people it seems can’t do the same.

I also got called a clown for saying I would rather have Ryan Lowe than Tony Mowbray. I still stand by that but the people who called me out for that now cry when they get called out. I think some people on here need to get a better backbone.
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I think that any adult that uses/aims the childish phrase " called out " explains an awful lot about those doing it ( whatever it's about) ..... They need to grow the fuck up. It's on a par with " Nur Nur Na Nur Nur " ffs........ 🙄
 
RibbletonWhite2.0 said:
Yet the negative ones (you know who you are) would have dominated this forum saying ‘where are the positive ones now’ and ‘I told people Lowe was shit’ had we been bottom after five games. That’s a fact.

It makes a change the forum being positive for a change but let me be clear had we been bottom there would have been people trying to point score for us being bottom. So let’s enjoy it, accept we are doing well. And if it goes tits up I am sure you will be on here point scoring as well.
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We are all happy we're doing well though.

If we'd had a terrible end to the season, a terrible pre season and a terrible start to this season, then yes, that criticism would have been fully justified. It's not an agenda, just a fair reaction to the situation. We're 5 games in- be happy, but trying to point score on people who were justifiably apprehensive is A) counterproductive to the positive atmosphere you claim to want, and B) Far too early for it to be meaningful.
 
HunterLionheart said:
We are all happy we're doing well though.

If we'd had a terrible end to the season, a terrible pre season and a terrible start to this season, then yes, that criticism would have been fully justified. It's not an agenda, just a fair reaction to the situation. We're 5 games in- be happy, but trying to point score on people who were justifiably apprehensive is A) counterproductive to the positive atmosphere you claim to want, and B) Far too early for it to be meaningful.
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This is definitely a point worth highlighting and that I agree with 100%.

It's possible to react to things and change opinions based on what's actually happening. I don't think anybody is fully entrenched in the idea of total blind faith in the club, or dogmatic hatred. And those who are just seem to debate in bad faith are simply utter melts (you know who you are, people!).

Microcosmically, this happens on the MDTs too. Moan about Lowe's tactics or Leddo spaffing one over the bar and it's seen as overwhelming negativity rather than a simple observation of something that could be tweaked to improve us. Personally I believe reacting to things as they unfold, being based in reality, and looking to continuously improve isn't a bad thing. Especially if we can be open to praising the club when things go well.
 
RibbletonWhite2.0 said:
Yet the negative ones (you know who you are) would have dominated this forum saying ‘where are the positive ones now’ and ‘I told people Lowe was shit’ had we been bottom after five games. That’s a fact.

It makes a change the forum being positive for a change but let me be clear had we been bottom there would have been people trying to point score for us being bottom. So let’s enjoy it, accept we are doing well. And if it goes tits up I am sure you will be on here point scoring as well.

Another point. Throughout pre season we had fans calling other fans out taking the mick for being patient. It was mainly negative. Moaning about meaningless friendly results and not signing anyone. They attacked anyone who was remotely positive and called them ‘happy clappers.’

Well the ‘happy clappers’ were right to be patient.
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Some people accusing the club of being not interested in football when everything was going on out of sight - but onward and upward
 
simo said:
There’s a difference between opinion and speculation.
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There is a difference between a forum and a fan club.
simo said:
And that is fact!
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simo said:
The problems begin when opinion, speculation or even fabricated bullshit is presented as fact by people who's motives continue to make no sense to me.
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The all point of a forum is for people to get together and discuss the possibilities and suggest some answers.
As this is a football forum albeit aimed at a single club, having an opinion on a player, the game etc and discussing it on here is why it was set up.

If someone passes on something that they have heard, and it is indeed fabricated bullshit, I'm sure that it will be discussed, found out if there is substance in it and if not will roundly be dismissed.

Hope this helps you.
 
If you think there is value in going around the houses and discussing the merits of fabricated bullshit then fair enough. But I thought that’s what twitter was for.

I’d like to think the forum could be a bit more more useful than that.
 
simo said:
If you think there is value in going around the houses and discussing the merits of fabricated bullshit then fair enough. But I thought that’s what twitter was for.

I’d like to think the forum could be a bit more more useful than that.
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Not sure that there is value in it, just that on a forum you will get plenty of it.

Maybe give your opinion on it, maybe try to get them to see your point by giving some evidence to back up your theory.
Maybe just agree to disagree.

The things we could do to see less of are people wumming others and ending up calling each other all sorts of derogatory things when in fact at the end of the day, wether you are super optimistic or you like a little moan, we all desperately want the same thing, to see PNE win matches and be successful, but in the end people are people and you will get a mixture.

My view on Twitter is that it is 95% shite with the odd bit of stuff like PNE announcing a new signing.

PNE-Online on the other hand is 95% pretty decent with the odd oik that needs to be ignored, I guess that I'm now in the latter for you at least.😟
 
Walton said:
Not sure that there is value in it, just that on a forum you will get plenty of it.

Maybe give your opinion on it, maybe try to get them to see your point by giving some evidence to back up your theory.
Maybe just agree to disagree.

The things we could do to see less of are people wumming others and ending up calling each other all sorts of derogatory things when in fact at the end of the day, wether you are super optimistic or you like a little moan, we all desperately want the same thing, to see PNE win matches and be successful, but in the end people are people and you will get a mixture.

My view on Twitter is that it is 95% shite with the odd bit of stuff like PNE announcing a new signing.

PNE-Online on the other hand is 95% pretty decent with the odd oik that needs to be ignored, I guess that I'm now in the latter for you at least.😟
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Not at all! I’ll have a grown up conversation with anyone. Glad the schools are back!
 
A word on our defence, according to this - https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/Championship-Stats

Woodman has only faced 8 shots in 5 games, (not including the penalty) which is joint second lowest in the league, in contrast QPR's keeper has faced 23 and Huddersfield's 20 shots. Hull and Boro's keepers are joint lowest on 7 shots faced.

He's also saved 81.8% of them which is the highest save percentage in the league. Dieng for Boro has the lowest unsurprisingly.

If we're going to stay in and around the top 6 then this is the sort of stat we need to maintain, even with more attacking options, I wouldn't want to see us attempt to be more expansive. If it aint broke...
 
One thing I would prefer not to hear- and some will scoff - is the constant reference to aiming for the top six.

Play-offs are exciting but on average you’re going to fail to go up 3 times out of four…. I hate to sound like Double J… but top six is probably failure! Focus on going up 😆. I know it doesn’t make a big difference - but I do mean it.
 
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