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Is Lowe evolving?

Is Lowe evolving?

MattPNE17 said:
Was pleasantly surprised with tonight.

If a team that has that amount of money and talent in it needs a scabby goal scored in the 7th minute of 6 added on AND an absolute knob-jockey of a referee to get a draw out of us, then that's a good progression.

Millar is the first player we've had in a long time who can get people out of their seats this frequently.
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Miller reminds me a bit of Eddie Lewis once he gets going. Dosen't have the ability with crossing and final ball yet as Eddie did at his peak but he needs to stay wide left in this formation rather than be shoehorned in a 3-5-2 or other variations.
 
OB1 said:
Absolutely nailed his tactics tonight and nailed the Osmaijic sub

But it’s another game where we’ve taken the lead and again gone 10 men behind the ball. Is that what we’re being coached to do? If so, why because it’s costing us points, we’re so good at coming back from 1 goal leads but struggle holding onto them at times

One thing that did drive me mad was his refusal to sub Holmes despite him being knackered since the 60th minute, only to eventually replace him with Ledson and shove an unfit Evans out to RW

Miles better manager than Martin but needs to recognise that he has to go 4 at the back going forward, at least whilst players are available
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I too could see that his legs had gone but as I said to my mate 'who is the ready made replacement on the bench?' We didn't have one so perhaps that is why he waited so long.
 
Euxtonboy said:
I too could see that his legs had gone but as I said to my mate 'who is the ready made replacement on the bench?' We didn't have one so perhaps that is why he waited so long.
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Problem is, it ended up being like having 10 men. That’s the sort of situation where Brady, Stewart, Woodburn etc should be being used, or bring Ledson on earlier and put Osmaijic out on the right
 
OB1 said:
Absolutely nailed his tactics tonight and nailed the Osmaijic sub

But it’s another game where we’ve taken the lead and again gone 10 men behind the ball. Is that what we’re being coached to do? If so, why because it’s costing us points, we’re so good at coming back from 1 goal leads but struggle holding onto them at times

One thing that did drive me mad was his refusal to sub Holmes despite him being knackered since the 60th minute, only to eventually replace him with Ledson and shove an unfit Evans out to RW

Miles better manager than Martin but needs to recognise that he has to go 4 at the back going forward, at least whilst players are available
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We were sort of 10 men behind the ball from the beginning trying to steal it either up field or out wide so we could break, drawing Bendnarek out and then capitalising.

Millar should have driven at them more when trying to pass it to Mulitin and Walker Peters should have been booked first half for the tug back on Millar.
 
SF said:
Deserves credit for last night, he made the changes a lot of us have been calling for and showed tactical savviness against a team that cost absolutely shit loads.

Our best performance of the season.
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Absolutely.

Credit where it’s due.

He showed balls with that team selection and strategy against an expensively assembled opposition and we were rewarded with a superb performance and so nearly got the win we deserved.

Really encouraging to see the coaching team and players produce such a great performance. Hope we continue to exploit the undoubted attacking talent we now have starting at Hull on Saturday.
 
26-0 said:
Absolutely.

Credit where it’s due.

He showed balls with that team selection and strategy against an expensively assembled opposition and we were rewarded with a superb performance and so nearly got the win we deserved.

Really encouraging to see the coaching team and players produce such a great performance. Hope we continue to exploit the undoubted attacking talent we now have starting at Hull on Saturday.
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Indeed.... If he learns from his approach last night and doesn't revert to type then he is evolving and will get the deserved plaudits... I really enjoyed it for a change even though the result was a kick in the knackers. He'll get no stick from me if we play like that every week.
 
Looking at the quotes on the LEP, this thread could have been very different today. He could have lost the frigging whole ground.

“We do have to make those decisions. Teams in the Championship have squads and that is what they are for. Anyone who plays, starts or comes on to the pitch, they are taking instructions on and performing. It is tough when people get left out. I was bringing Ben Woodburn on at half-time (against Southampton) to get into the ten position, but something just told me to get an extra striker on. Woody has been absolutely on fire in training and is just waiting for that opportunity. In terms of the squad, the depth is a lot better than it has been.”
 
Libertine said:
Looking at the quotes on the LEP, this thread could have been very different today. He could have lost the frigging whole ground.

“We do have to make those decisions. Teams in the Championship have squads and that is what they are for. Anyone who plays, starts or comes on to the pitch, they are taking instructions on and performing. It is tough when people get left out. I was bringing Ben Woodburn on at half-time (against Southampton) to get into the ten position, but something just told me to get an extra striker on. Woody has been absolutely on fire in training and is just waiting for that opportunity. In terms of the squad, the depth is a lot better than it has been.”
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Hopefully Lowe makes him wait a while longer for that opportunity. May I suggest next June.
 
Libertine said:
Looking at the quotes on the LEP, this thread could have been very different today. He could have lost the frigging whole ground.

“We do have to make those decisions. Teams in the Championship have squads and that is what they are for. Anyone who plays, starts or comes on to the pitch, they are taking instructions on and performing. It is tough when people get left out. I was bringing Ben Woodburn on at half-time (against Southampton) to get into the ten position, but something just told me to get an extra striker on. Woody has been absolutely on fire in training and is just waiting for that opportunity. In terms of the squad, the depth is a lot better than it has been.”
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He can’t be serious.
 
Libertine said:
Looking at the quotes on the LEP, this thread could have been very different today. He could have lost the frigging whole ground.

“We do have to make those decisions. Teams in the Championship have squads and that is what they are for. Anyone who plays, starts or comes on to the pitch, they are taking instructions on and performing. It is tough when people get left out. I was bringing Ben Woodburn on at half-time (against Southampton) to get into the ten position, but something just told me to get an extra striker on. Woody has been absolutely on fire in training and is just waiting for that opportunity. In terms of the squad, the depth is a lot better than it has been.”
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He was "on fire" to the point that he never even came on against Southampton and got 5 minutes plus injury time against Millwall.

This is surely bollocks.
 
Millar was knackered towards the end on Wednesday and I thought Woodburn should have come on, also thinking about Hull. We did and do lack some more pacy and energetic options from the bench to give a forward out ball when defending a lead. Hope Calvin Ramsey isn’t far off now.
 
Libertine said:
Looking at the quotes on the LEP, this thread could have been very different today. He could have lost the frigging whole ground.

“We do have to make those decisions. Teams in the Championship have squads and that is what they are for. Anyone who plays, starts or comes on to the pitch, they are taking instructions on and performing. It is tough when people get left out. I was bringing Ben Woodburn on at half-time (against Southampton) to get into the ten position, but something just told me to get an extra striker on. Woody has been absolutely on fire in training and is just waiting for that opportunity. In terms of the squad, the depth is a lot better than it has been.”
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Woodburn

The new Potts

Mads blazed one over in the first half when should’ve passed, Evans scores an own goal. Nothing said

Imagine if Woodburn had done either of those. I put more trust in people who are with the players full time than people on a forum who aren’t.

I really don’t get or agree with scapegoating players.

Potts should be seen as an example of that.
 
milkyken said:
Woodburn

The new Potts

Mads blazed one over in the first half when should’ve passed, Evans scores an own goal. Nothing said

Imagine if Woodburn had done either of those. I put more trust in people who are with the players full time than people on a forum who aren’t.

I really don’t get or agree with scapegoating players.

Potts should be seen as an example of that.
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I understand the sentiment and never advocate booing players or jeering substitutions etc which is quite frankly embarrassing.

But Woodburn just isn’t up to it. I’m always happy to be proven wrong but in virtually all of his appearances for North End he’s not shown any indication that he belongs in the Championship.

I’d go as far to say at times that mentally he can look weak. I’ll stop short of saying he doesn’t care, because I’m sure he does even for his own sake, but I wonder whether the fact he hasn’t hit the heights he would have expected after bursting on to the scene scoring at the Kop has taken its toll. Being fifth fiddle in the midfield/forward line at Deepdale probably isn’t what he had in mind when he was playing in the Premier League and getting selected for Wales as an 18/19 year old.

It was baffling that he was given another year and he hasn’t shown me anything that would suggest he’s improved over the summer.

Let’s pray I’m wrong as Lowe seems insistent on keeping him.
 
In pre season to me he looked sharp and up for it. I’d go as far to say that when he comes on he tries too hard and flys round like a headless chicken at times.

I don’t think he’s half as bad as people say and giving him 5 minute cameos doesn’t help him either.

From what I hear he’s a really nice kid and I’m sure the negativity towards him will play on his mind when playing.

As I said before Potts should be an example of people getting it completely wrong.
 
milkyken said:
Woodburn

The new Potts

Mads blazed one over in the first half when should’ve passed, Evans scores an own goal. Nothing said

Imagine if Woodburn had done either of those. I put more trust in people who are with the players full time than people on a forum who aren’t.

I really don’t get or agree with scapegoating players.

Potts should be seen as an example of that.
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Your comparison is awful.

Mads, in his debut season in a foreign country, has scored 3 and made 2 assists from 12 championship appearances.

Woodburn has 1 goal and 2 assists from 39 championship appearances for us.
 
I've said, a few days ago, that the board should start to look at options. But every credit, the football on show on Wednesday was light years better. Perhaps Ryan got lucky but I'll happily eat my words if things continue in the same way.
 
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