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Is Lowe evolving?

Is Lowe evolving?

JK said:
Bringing on Brady and Woodburn when chasing the game is rank bad management.

I said it after the Millwall game that since Ryan has had more players available many of his selections have been questionable.
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His selections last season were a fucking piss take. The players, focused mainly around Tom Cannon and Parrot plus Browne and DJ coming back into form miraculously dragged us into play off contention and as soon as I saw the team for Swansea away I knew he was never, ever going to do anything at this club. He's Joe Average. He's just a Joe Average manager with a gob.

How you can't map out the season and see that, given the fixtures and their relative shitless, Milwall was a huge, must win game given the fixtures to follow but the coaching staff seemingly approached it like a fucking friendly.
 
Start of the season, Lowe went to being honest and humble in interviews. We were lucky on the pitch but with the injuries we had, going 8 games unbeaten was obviously incredible.

Since then we’ve gone 7 without winning, 1 “above average” performance in those 7. Lowe is coming out now and saying after crap performances how he couldn’t ask for more and talking about “two footballing sides”. We’ve got one of the lowest possession figures in the league, one of the lowest xG created and we aren’t keeping clean sheets. He comes out and talks about the squad depth then plays like it’s a league 1 team playing a Prem team in the FA Cup.
 
Tugg Speedman said:
Not good.

4th from bottom of form table over last 5 games, with just 2pts. Scored 5, conceded 11.

We were never going to keep our amazing start going, but it's gone spectacularly tits up and it's really disappointing.

After massively over achieving early doors, our current league position is probably a fair reflection of the squad weve got, compared to the other teams above us (and some below us).

What we want (and need) for a manager is a miracle worker - someone who can get our players to overachieve on a constant basis.

I said last week that it would be difficult to stand by Lowe if results started to get into a rut like last season, especially now since he's been backed in the transfer market and we've got some promising kids coming through.

It's now like last season all over again and Lowe could end up being a victim of his early season success, but ultimately his failure to get results.

All depends though on the expectations of the owners.
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I think the expectations of the fans might also count when it comes to RLs Deepdale tenure.
With the signings we have made, the players available, some promising youth players, we should especially at home be seeing team selection,formation, and tactics, allowing us to take the game to the opposition, play at a high tempo, use our wide players to attack and beat defenders and create chances and have forwards on the pitch to get on the end of the chances we create.
If we see some positive, attacking football the second half against Southampton,with fight and aggression the fans will react accordingly.
Should RL continue with his wingback, one up top, side ways , backwards and the lump it forward play, slow pedestrian build up allowing the opposition 70% possession, defend deep and create very few scoring opportunities then the reaction at Deepdale could cause the Directors to look differently at his tenure.
We have players who can play on the front foot, who can attack with pace and can create and finish chances, we can play attacking football at pace.,with the players we have
I think that's what the loyal support deserves and that is a fair expectation, anything less and I'm sure Deepdale will let those in charge know what the fans expectations are.🤔
 
Jack Daniels said:
Insane.

Or Insania to quote Peter Andre.

Take your pick.

I prefer the word "deluded".
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Perhaps you're right, it's a game of opinions. But I'd suggest that 3 points from a possible 21 makes it possible that something is amiss. And that ignored the fact, widely recognised in this forum that our early season points were largely gained from very deep defending that surely couldn't continue.
 
Wisemen say said:
I think the expectations of the fans might also count when it comes to RLs Deepdale tenure.
With the signings we have made, the players available, some promising youth players, we should especially at home be seeing team selection,formation, and tactics, allowing us to take the game to the opposition, play at a high tempo, use our wide players to attack and beat defenders and create chances and have forwards on the pitch to get on the end of the chances we create.
If we see some positive, attacking football the second half against Southampton,with fight and aggression the fans will react accordingly.
Should RL continue with his wingback, one up top, side ways , backwards and the lump it forward play, slow pedestrian build up allowing the opposition 70% possession, defend deep and create very few scoring opportunities then the reaction at Deepdale could cause the Directors to look differently at his tenure.
We have players who can play on the front foot, who can attack with pace and can create and finish chances, we can play attacking football at pace.,with the players we have
I think that's what the loyal support deserves and that is a fair expectation, anything less and I'm sure Deepdale will let those in charge know what the fans expectations are.🤔
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What I can't understand about Lowe is when he was playing he was a prolific goal scoring striker. However, he would not have been prolific had he had to play as a lone striker. Be it at Sheff Wed or Bury he always had a sidekick doing the donkey work to help him. Now that he's a manager it would appear to be sod that 2 forwards malarkey If I want to keep my job we can't let them score. Everybody back. How many times have we seen our STRIKER come so deep(own half) to collect the ball only to be left with no option ut to play it backwards. Also, when the opposition get a corner why not leave 2 on the half way line? This would mean they would more than likely bring 3 back making our area less congested. Or is that too ambitious for you Mr Lowe. Grow some balls and come up with a system that made you so prolific in your playing days. As Delboy would say " You know it makes sense" Before anyone says the game has changed, no it hasn't unless I'm very much mistaken it is still 11 v 11. The perception of the game may have changed but the dynamics haven't. It is still about scoring more than the opposition and winning. Not keep them at nil and we can't lose.Rant over.
 
Victorthesecond said:
Perhaps you're right, it's a game of opinions. But I'd suggest that 3 points from a possible 21 makes it possible that something is amiss. And that ignored the fact, widely recognised in this forum that our early season points were largely gained from very deep defending that surely couldn't continue.
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Whatever someone’s opinion of Lowe, the board should already have an idea of were they would go next - and they should always have an idea because you never know what’s coming next.
 
wld said:
Whatever someone’s opinion of Lowe, the board should already have an idea of were they would go next - and they should always have an idea because you never know what’s coming next.
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Of course. Personally, I really want Lowe to succeed. It would have been easy for the boardto appoint a dinosaur but they chased him down (let's ignore the Schumacher link for now although they may have panicked slightly when they realised they weren't getting the whole package)- and must have known want they wanted before they sacked Frankie. But, this is now his squad and he has no hiding place. Whether or not our transfer policy included getting wingbacks, we'll never know, but it seems bizarre that it didn't seem to be the case given his obsession with that position.
 
york white said:
Couldn’t make it today. What was the crowd reaction at full time? Given the mood on here is firmly that Lowe should be gone, that suggests an ugly atmosphere in the away end. Was Lowe booed off?
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No he wasn't. The PNE support ( fantastic again) seemed pretty resigned to it all. No booing that I heard. But there were plenty around me who were very vocal about his choice of subs.......
 
Mashimbo said:
I genuinely thought we'd have used the frustration from the Southampton game to tear Hull a new one.

Then I saw the starting 11.

RL is yet another manager we've had who looks to nullify the opposition rather than play to our strengths.
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Exactly this.
Positivity from the performance/frustration against Southampton.
What do we get?
A defensive line up against Hull.
He will never change
 
Victorthesecond said:
No he wasn't. The PNE support ( fantastic again) seemed pretty resigned to it all. No booing that I heard. But there were plenty around me who were very vocal about his choice of subs.......
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Too many happy clappers who can’t see past the fist pumps and chest smacking.

Needs letting know how shite this is, like at Burnley away last season.
 
Subs were a disgrace yesterday. Brady and Woodburn being brought on when we had Mads on the bench was a shambles. Ched was excellent when he came on and Whiteman and Browne played well. Tactically we were set up not to lose for an attacking manager it is pathetic way to set up. Hull we’re there to be got after if we had set up to press and hurry them instead we backed off them and allowed them to find a rhythm.
 
Mashimbo said:
I genuinely thought we'd have used the frustration from the Southampton game to tear Hull a new one.

Then I saw the starting 11.

RL is yet another manager we've had who looks to nullify the opposition rather than play to our strengths.
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Or even to put bang average teams under pressure, it’s an easy game for opposition defences against North End ?
 
People forget just how shite we were last season, then by a it of luck (playing the lower end teams), we briefly flirted in the play off places. As soon as we started playing the better teams, we sunk like a stone.
This season,we rode out luck and got to the top of the table, albeit, the football was dire. We have now returned to normal form. Mid to lower placed team.

Had we not had the wins at the beginning of the season, the atmosphere would have been awfull within a few games and the calls for his head would have been ringing around the ground.

We are going absolutely nowhere with Ryan Lowe in charge.
 
prestonmadhouse said:
We are going absolutely nowhere with Ryan Lowe in charge.
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Interesting as we have been "going nowhere" for a couple of decades now since KBD departed the building.

What makes yourself - and others - think that the next incumbent will wield "the magic touch"? History shows otherwise.

Under Lowe, we can at least banish any thoughts of relegation. Point One achieved.

Food for thought.
 
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