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Josh Harrop

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Probably the most fustrating player of the season for me. If there was an award for that, he'd definitely win it.

Let's get one thing straight. This lad has plenty and more than enough technical ability. He's also very direct and fast towards goal, tricky as well.

However, I can see exactly why Alex Neil doesn't start him. He looks the type of player to be only playing for himself at times. He wants to take every free kick and shot as well as always holding on to the ball for to long as we've seen plenty of times this season. His decision making has been awful in fact.

Yesterday, why did he try and hit a free kick through a wall of bodies when the keeper had left most of his goal unprotected. This lad has cost us quite a few points this season. Yes all players have but it's even more worrying when Harrop has been on the bench for most of it. He's not really done anything to make up for his mistakes unlike others.

I really hope the lad can prove me wrong just like Callum Robinson did. If Harrop could improve on his decision making and stopped playing for himself, then he'd be the best player in the team for me.
 
Absolute load of shite. He’s changed the game the last few times he’s come off the bench, no idea what he has to do to get a start. He’s our only player who goes forward with any urgency or drive.
 
Big man scapegoating a young player playing his first season in professional, men's football in probably the most competitive and unpredictable league in England. The lad's got bags of talent, potential and skill. The difference he's made off the bench at Bolton, QPR, Cardiff and other games in undeniable. He's not the second coming, but next season he will be instrumental to our promotion hopes if we're still in this division. After a pre-season with the new signings he'll be huge. The loss of points has been down to stupid errors at second phases of set pieces, as well as poor finishing by our strikers. Harrop deserves more chances and he'll take them next season. Incredibly unfair analysis. Done three times what DJ's done all season.
 
Harrop signed a 4 year deal.

Imagine this 1st season as his being "on loan" season and next year as being his "we've signed him!" season.

That's the way I view his settling in period. Remember that Josh has not had a single loan move whilst at Man Utd. This season has been a massive step up and learning curve mentally, physically and tactically.

We will all benefit from this education next season. 100%.
 
OP is a bit OTT but agree with bits of it.

Harrop doesn’t start because parts of his game are still so naive. In that sense, I can see why Gallagher and Johnson have been preferred to him all season. They use the ball better and are much more experienced off it.

It’s a different game playing from the start as a vital cog in the middle of our midfield/attack, and coming on for 20-30 minutes being told to just create.

His time will probably come next season.

AN’s midfield selections probably are too conservative at home though. Browne as the advanced midfielder won’t help us score more. He scored a header vs Leeds from a deep role in midfield, showing he can still get into the box from deep. Why not just use him a bit further back allowing a more creative/attacking threat from open play to be our no.10?

It will be interesting to see in the window whether AN wants to sign a no.10 like Josh Windass or will decide to promote Harrop properly to a first team role.
 
Harrop is a young lad, inexperienced at 1st team football, in his first season playing the game. Yesterday he (along with several other players) clearly struggled with the pressure and tension. Understandable given his young age and inexperience.

He will be a cracking player.
 
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It never ends well (usually) when the Dad gets involved. See on here / Twitter for example when the Dads of SSL, Brownhill got involved.

Hope that this case is entirely different and innocent.
 
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It never ends well (usually) when the Dad gets involved. See on here / Twitter for example when the Dads of SSL, Brownhill got involved.

Hope that this case is entirely different and innocent.
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Yep, that was my first thought.

Stay out of it poppa Harrop. His time will come.
 
The free kick, I can only assume was too close to get over and down with any pace, so he gambled on the wall jumping, trying to put it underneath. If it had come off would have been great. The lad is a class act,
 
You clearly have a gripe with the young chap Townender! Cost us points? according to his collective minutes he's played 20% of total game time; I'd be looking at those with a higher percentage of game time if your accusing people of costing us points.

I thought we were better with him on the pitch yesterday as we have been over the past few weeks, seems to get us ticking. Would have had him and Gally on yesterday though, two proper footballers who love the ball at their feet, what i pay to see.

Can't really blame him for holding onto the ball and wanting to be involved in everything, he has made 9 starts here, he is clearly just desperate to impress and prove the manager wrong. The manager is paid the money to be telling him to calm down and keep it simple. He may be defensively naive but aren't most of the top number 10s? I just think Neil doesn't think the spine of the team is strong enough to play with an expansive number 10 who will try things hence prefers browne to him and Johnson so the defence has less of a chance to be exposed. Ultimately it will be our home form that holds us back this season and hopefully its noted and sorted for next season as the system works away from home.
 
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BeteNoir said:
The free kick, I can only assume was too close to get over and down with any pace, so he gambled on the wall jumping, trying to put it underneath. If it had come off would have been great. The lad is a class act,
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No it was a perfect spot, just outside the D. I thought he had his best cameo yesterday. He is certainly a player but definitely needs game time. I’m not sure where his best position in the team is. For me he hasn’t taken a game by the scruff of the neck and controlled it like other players can do. Hopefully next season he makes the step up.
 
We looked miles better when he came on .He seems to compliment Maguire well. Think it's the energy they bring and the fact he's not predictable. The free kick wasn't helped by the referee who took an age to let him take it . His dad to be fair was nice in the above exchange ,must be hard when you see stuff about you're son on social networks .Human nature to look.

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Townender! said:
Probably the most fustrating player of the season for me. If there was an award for that, he'd definitely win it.

Let's get one thing straight. This lad has plenty and more than enough technical ability. He's also very direct and fast towards goal, tricky as well.

However, I can see exactly why Alex Neil doesn't start him. He looks the type of player to be only playing for himself at times. He wants to take every free kick and shot as well as always holding on to the ball for to long as we've seen plenty of times this season. His decision making has been awful in fact.

Yesterday, why did he try and hit a free kick through a wall of bodies when the keeper had left most of his goal unprotected. This lad has cost us quite a few points this season. Yes all players have but it's even more worrying when Harrop has been on the bench for most of it. He's not really done anything to make up for his mistakes unlike others.

I really hope the lad can prove me wrong just like Callum Robinson did. If Harrop could improve on his decision making and stopped playing for himself, then he'd be the best player in the team for me.
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Wow townender in another slagging a player off post. Who would of thunked it.

You slag him off for costing us points when he has played less minutes than most of the usual suspects. If memory serves he had the shot in the second half that the keeper did well to save. You say you hope he proves you wrong like callum did. So can I ask if you thought callum had a good game yesterday? As I personally feel we could have put a stuffed iguana in his position and would of accomplished as much as he did.

Lastly remember this is his first season at a fully professional level. We all know reserve football just doesn't come close. Cut the guy some slack and let him develop. He changed the game when he came on yesterday.
 
Anyone read his interview on twitter after the game? Neil has been working very closely with him all season and says it's all about gaining experience. He'll get his chance when the manager thinks he is ready.
 
BeteNoir said:
The free kick, I can only assume was too close to get over and down with any pace, so he gambled on the wall jumping, trying to put it underneath. If it had come off would have been great. The lad is a class act,
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He might develop into a class act but to say he is one now is wrong imo. He can't oust a 33 year old from the side for a start and hasn't played anywhere near enough pro football to get the class act tag. Yesterday he committed the basic error of not even getting the ball over the wall with a late free kick which must have had AN tearing his hair out if he had any. He also lacked control and composure yesterday as was evident yesterday twice when the ball got stuck under his feet whilst making runs through the Norwich defence and again when he lost his balance and ended up hand balling when clean through.
 
Townender! said:
Probably the most fustrating player of the season for me. If there was an award for that, he'd definitely win it.

Let's get one thing straight. This lad has plenty and more than enough technical ability. He's also very direct and fast towards goal, tricky as well.

However, I can see exactly why Alex Neil doesn't start him. He looks the type of player to be only playing for himself at times. He wants to take every free kick and shot as well as always holding on to the ball for to long as we've seen plenty of times this season. His decision making has been awful in fact.

Yesterday, why did he try and hit a free kick through a wall of bodies when the keeper had left most of his goal unprotected. This lad has cost us quite a few points this season. Yes all players have but it's even more worrying when Harrop has been on the bench for most of it. He's not really done anything to make up for his mistakes unlike others.

I really hope the lad can prove me wrong just like Callum Robinson did. If Harrop could improve on his decision making and stopped playing for himself, then he'd be the best player in the team for me.
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That sounds like a good description of a very young McGeady.................
 
Harrop will be a class player for us and will be being taught valuable lessons this season by AN and the pro's in the squad like Gallagher, Hunts and Clarke.

You can't just sign from Man Utd and think you can walk into Preston North End's starting 11.
 
northend nevets said:
Wow townender in another slagging a player off post. Who would of thunked it.

You slag him off for costing us points when he has played less minutes than most of the usual suspects. If memory serves he had the shot in the second half that the keeper did well to save. You say you hope he proves you wrong like callum did. So can I ask if you thought callum had a good game yesterday? As I personally feel we could have put a stuffed iguana in his position and would of accomplished as much as he did.

Lastly remember this is his first season at a fully professional level. We all know reserve football just doesn't come close. Cut the guy some slack and let him develop. He changed the game when he came on yesterday.
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It's have, not of. Hope this helps in some sort of way seeing as thread is crap.
 
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