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Keeper coaching.

Keeper coaching.

raefil

raefil

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A highly specialised position usually done by someone who has retired from the game and understands the Pro game and needs of the keepers back to front.

Its concerning that since alan Kelly left the form of our keepers has undoubtedly dipped.

Who actually is Jack Cudworth?

Oh and dont think Im blaming him personally but it seems to me that the Keeper coaches position has been filled as cheaply as possible.

IM still of the opinion that both rudd and Maxwell are actually decent keepers at this level so what is happening, rudds performance today, not just the goal, was beyond shambolic.

I know there are very good keeper coaches out there, why on earth havent we approached them?
 
raefil said:
A highly specialised position usually done by someone who has retired from the game and understands the Pro game and needs of the keepers back to front.

Its concerning that since alan Kelly left the form of our keepers has undoubtedly dipped.

Who actually is Jack Cudworth?

Oh and dont think Im blaming him personally but it seems to me that the Keeper coaches position has been filled as cheaply as possible.

IM still of the opinion that both rudd and Maxwell are actually decent keepers at this level so what is happening, rudds performance today, not just the goal, was beyond shambolic.

I know there are very good keeper coaches out there, why on earth havent we approached them?
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Keepers are coached to stay on their lines and Kelly coached exactly that way... Maxwells a Maverick that won't do as hes told so I'm afraid if you want " by the book " coaching experience then all you'll get is " stay on your line "..
 
Raefil makes a very good point, I thought about this earlier during the game.

When Kelly left he was replaced, the replacement left months later and was not replaced.
 
Liberation said:
Keepers are coached to stay on their lines and Kelly coached exactly that way... Maxwells a Maverick that won't do as hes told so I'm afraid if you want " by the book " coaching experience then all you'll get is " stay on your line "..
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Not nowadays libs, in fact the opposite is true, modern keeper coaching uses the term "Goal player," because theyre seen as an extra defender as well as being decent between the sticks.
 
raefil said:
Not nowadays libs, in fact the opposite is true, modern keeper coaching uses the term "Goal player," because theyre seen as an extra defender as well as being decent between the sticks.
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Well if thats true then it's taking a long time to come through to this level.....
 
This thread is a repeat.

Since my last moan at not employing an experienced coach I have been reliably informed Jack and his school pals post on here, it is no wonder that there was such an outburst of support for him.

I have zero issue with Jack I am told forcibly that he is a very decent lad who is trying his best to make headway in coaching so good luck to him.

My view -
Rudd and Maxwell have significant expierience between them. They are entitled to quality coaching from an expienced coach who can at least maintain their performance. In maxwell's position help develop his full potential that playing in lower levels has stifled.

Jack is not that man and as some have pointed out i wonder if there is a link between errors and the coaching on the cheep being offered to them.

The keeper coach should be of sufficient standing to voice an opinion about the lads and it be heard by the manager.
 
Both keepers shite. Replace one with a first team keeper like we should've done last season shift the one who is least assed about being a number 2.
Seriously. We get Maxwell in few good games then a fuck up.
We overrate them both but when last season when we were good this wasn't a problem. They should've been replaced in the summer.

But now we fucking know th doesn't believe us.
 
raefil said:
A highly specialised position usually done by someone who has retired from the game and understands the Pro game and needs of the keepers back to front.

Its concerning that since alan Kelly left the form of our keepers has undoubtedly dipped.

Who actually is Jack Cudworth?

Oh and dont think Im blaming him personally but it seems to me that the Keeper coaches position has been filled as cheaply as possible.

IM still of the opinion that both rudd and Maxwell are actually decent keepers at this level so what is happening, rudds performance today, not just the goal, was beyond shambolic.

I know there are very good keeper coaches out there, why on earth havent we approached them?
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Jack's a coach who worked very closely with Kelly and is highly regarded by Neil due to his data analysis work. That's who.
 
Castolo said:
Jack's a coach who worked very closely with Kelly and is highly regarded by Neil due to his data analysis work. That's who.
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so highly regarded that when kelly left AN brought somebody else in?

OK
 
raefil said:
so highly regarded that when kelly left AN brought somebody else in?

OK
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At the time Kelly left, it was between Jack and Dean Kiely for the job. AN went with Kiely after working with him at Norwich. When he went, AN wanted to promote Jack after being impressed with him.
 
North End paid for a lot of money for Rudd...but got caught with both goals today ...might be worth giving Maxwell a go but seem to be conceding shots from long range bit of a worry
 
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