Ledson

[europne]

Thought he was generally poor yesterday. If his role is supposed to be a holding midfield player, which I think it is, he has never shown any composure on the ball and seems to want to get rid of it as soon as possible. This may be due to a lack of confidence having not played many games, I don't know, but he definitely needs to improve this part of his game.

Maybe Pearson would have had similar problems against Huddersfield?

Yet another bleeding know all.........as I saw it for most of the time we bossed that game, after losing our 2 main midfielders, we did well, we won, we were 3 up and it should have been more before they scored after a flukey run and deflected shot, we got slightly nervy but held out.

Wtf do some of you lot expect? Pearson is of course first choice, but Ledson did a good job as deputy, he does not need all this criticism , it’s unnecessary and counter productive.

And yes, I am pissed off with smartasses who expect replacements to be better than the people who are first choice.

And he tends to keep his gob shut which is an advantage over a few other team members who never learn that having a go verbally at a referee is a pointless exercise.

 

[Delaney]

Maybe Pearson would have had similar problems against Huddersfield?

Yet another bleeding know all.........as I saw it for most of the time we bossed that game, after losing our 2 main midfielders, we did well, we won, we were 3 up and it should have been more before they scored after a flukey run and deflected shot, we got slightly nervy but held out.

Wtf do some of you lot expect? Pearson is of course first choice, but Ledson did a good job as deputy, he does not need all this criticism , it’s unnecessary and counter productive.

And yes, I am pissed off with smartasses who expect replacements to be better than the people who are first choice.

And he tends to keep his gob shut which is an advantage over a few other team members who never learn that having a go verbally at a referee is a pointless exercise.

Do you really not see the irony of you calling other people smartasses when you're responding like this to people politely and reasonably putting across an alternate view on a player to the one you have?

 

[pnenycx]

Ledsons challenge was nowhere near as bad as the one on Rafferty last week or the one I’ve just seen by Lawrence for derby against forest

Not really relevant. Not seen the offense yet so can't comment.

 

[europne]

Do you really not see the irony of you calling other people smartasses when you're responding like this to people politely and reasonably putting across an alternate view on a player to the one you have?

Nope.

It’s not that long ago we were suffering Westley, we have come a million miles since then.

We have just beaten the inform team in our league, we were 3-0 up and it should have been more, we didn’t bottle the important game as we have done in the past. It was an excellent team performance even after major changes to our midfield.

And yet our fans find it necessary to pick out a player to have a moan at.

So I’m terribly sorry if it upsets you but I totally object to that sort of negativity when we are flying high, scoring goals and second in the league.

If it’s ok to criticise players then it’s more than ok to criticise negative moaning posters.

So you can shove your irony where the sun doesn’t shine......?

 

[Thracia]

No criticising the players or the club until we're back on our arses in League One folks.

Meanwhile, the forum will host a period of endless, unironic, appreciative applause.

 

[LancasterRed]

Blind faithing is worse than being consistently negative.

Just because we're second it doesn't mean players suddenly can't be criticised.

If Neil decided that everything was suddenly all sunshine and rainbows and we didn't need to strive to improve and fix our issues after each game we wouldn't be second right now.

Things are going great, but there's lots of room to improve. And we need to. And that includes Ledson. Heck, even Pearson, Bauer, and all of our other stars have lots of room to improve.

 

[wahwahwah]

Blind faithing

Not that old chestnut...

 

[Pilot]

I'm concerned about Pearson picking up yellow cards and missing games, not getting sent off for reckless, dangerous tackles.

I like Ledson, but it's a habit he needs to break. Either get better at timing his tackles, or stop lunging in so wildly.

It may surprise you to learn that a reckless challenge is a yellow card offence in the laws of the game

 

[deepdaledreamer]

I've seen enough of Ledson to think that he can become a good Championship Player.
At the moment we are doing really well with a relatively settled Team and he only has the occasional opportunity.
Look how much Rafferty has grown into the Team given a run of games, its not just because he's suddenly become twice as good as he was at Accrington but largely the confidence of a proper settled run.
Ledson can grow in the same way.
At the moment he's a good squad Player -which is way stronger than for a long, long time -
I think He is decent at the moment and will only get better.

 

[Aitch]

Look how much Rafferty has grown into the Team given a run of games, its not just because he's suddenly become twice as good as he was at Accrington but largely the confidence of a proper settled run.

Rochdale Rafferty came from, not Accrington, but understand your point

 

[Kathryn]

Rochdale Rafferty came from, not Accrington, but understand your point

Ripley was at Accrington.

 

[Aitch]

Ripley was at Accrington.

I’m confused now lol, Ripley isn’t mentioned, the thread is about Ledson, and the poster says Rafferty at Accrington lol ?

 

[deepdaledreamer]

I’m confused now lol, Ripley isn’t mentioned, the thread is about Ledson, and the poster says Rafferty at Accrington lol ?

Apologies, Rafferty came from Rochdale, but as you say general point stands.

 

[SF]

Can you trust Pearson?

To not try and break people's legs? Yes.

 

[Mel Tottoh]

Ledson did well yesterday. After the foul Barky asked him what he was doing and did a foot up studs showing kick. While the player was down getting treatment, Gally and Bauer both went over to Ledson arm round him talking to him

I noticed Bark doing that too ; he was clearly saying he'd got away with it and needed to calm down .

 

[truenorthender]

loved today, solid win

Not the type to point the finger at any pne player but that ‘tackle’ by ledson (which resulted in hudds making a sub) was idiotic at best.

The game could have turned on its head after that given the long stoppage

i get his game is being tough in the tackle, but it crosses the line of simple thuggery sometimes, certainly that challenge today did in my opinion

was his chance to put in a mature performance, yet we were lucky to still have 11 men on the pitch due to his challenge

Has it in him to be quality, but sort your head out lad - this isnt lfc v everton reserves anymore!

Up the whites

Your being tight on ledson you, missing 2 Key players and we win. That's all you need to know pal, he obviously did something right or Huddersfield who were in the prem last season just couldn't find him out. Couldn't break that perceived donkey weak link in the team ?. He can't just come into the team sporadically and be expected to boss it everytime. Not with him being a DCM anyway. If your a winger or striker you can make more of an impact but his job is to make tactical fouls 🙂.. Ur being sham u. Shady as owt. Me n euro gonna start pulling people's hair if they dis anymore players

 

[Tino]

If that tackle came against one of us we'd have been up screaming for a red. I actually think Ledson is half decent on the ball, he puts some decent pace into his passes and can thread one in tight spaces but I'm just not sure where he's going to fit in.

I just don't see him as a long term Pearson replacement. He just doesn't look to be a defensive midfielder to me. But I won't be overly harsh, that was only his 3rd time on the pitch in a league game this season. With limited opportunities he's bound to want to make his mark on the game, a bit like when Harrop was getting odd bits last season he'd try stuff he normally wouldn't to try and have an impact.

Looking at Rothwell at Rovers though, at the moment it looks like we signed the wrong player from Oxford.

 

[paolo poggi]

If that tackle came against one of us we'd have been up screaming for a red. I actually think Ledson is half decent on the ball, he puts some decent pace into his passes and can thread one in tight spaces but I'm just not sure where he's going to fit in.

I just don't see him as a long term Pearson replacement. He just doesn't look to be a defensive midfielder to me. But I won't be overly harsh, that was only his 3rd time on the pitch in a league game this season. With limited opportunities he's bound to want to make his mark on the game, a bit like when Harrop was getting odd bits last season he'd try stuff he normally wouldn't to try and have an impact.

Looking at Rothwell at Rovers though, at the moment it looks like we signed the wrong player from Oxford.

As much as I scream for a red card at the time, I do like seeing players tackling hard and I don't really like it when you win against 10 men, as it takes the shine off a good performance. Don't forget, Steve Thomson is the coach, and I saw him snap John Thomas' leg at Burnden Park.
North End simply will not be bullied by anybody, and the big defender who was on the end of the tackle will have, no doubt, put plenty of those types of hits on countless opponents in his career. A taste of his own medicine won't do him any harm.

 

[Tino]

According to the stats site WhoScored, Ledson's pass completion percentage is just 62.5% in the two games he's played.

In comparison, Pearson's is 83.1% this season. Johnson 81.6%. Gallagher 78.1%.

Passing is something he obviously really needs to work on.

Rudd has a 100% save record from shots outside the box this season.

Most of the time you can use stats whichever way you want to back up an argument or viewpoint.

 

[sedgwick__7]

Most of the time you can use stats whichever way you want to back up an argument or viewpoint.

I was just putting it out there as some people on here seem to think he's a "lovely passer of the ball". For me there's no evidence of that either statistically or on the eye, and it's there to see as a fact that he gives the ball away too much. At times he seems averse to keeping the ball on the ground.

I agree it's hard to make much of an impact when gets little bits and pieces of game time and like others I wasn't expecting wonders from him, but he looks very limited to me as a player.