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Ledson

B(rad)P(otts)IG said:
He gets the ball and immediately launches it over the top. I think it must be an instruction, nobody can be that shite.
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I think it’s too simplistic to say that, personally. Sure, that might be the case sometimes, but it would also be the case for our other midfielders.

He launches the ball forward because he fancies himself as this Gerrard-esque sprayer of the ball.

He should be ratting about in someone like Wycombe’s midfield, if we’re honest.
 
Bodney Rewes said:
On the stats I can find easily, he doesn't rank that highly but that's because they're all measured as totals or per game. It's all number of long passes or long passes per game, etc. Since he hasn't played as much as others, he won't rank highly among the totals. Interestingly, he also just doesn't seem to do much passing in general so he doesn't rank highly per game either. Woodman does more passes per game. The only players we have who do fewer passes per game are the strikers.

There's a way to measure it, I just haven't found the stats yet. Basically we'd be looking for the distance per pass.
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Yeah, there will be a stat around for percentage of passes played over 20ft or something like that. Damned if I know who's tracking them, but I'm sure I've seen similar before.

Either way, we all have the eye test, and we all know that Ledson's MO, for better or for worse, is to get the ball and then try a Hollywood pass.
 
cragtek said:
Of course, any manager worth their salt would see that conversion rate in the data and immediately stop trying it. In fact, they'd have probably had their analysts keep tabs on execution success in training matches way before actually trying to use it as a tactic in a live championship match, let alone a season's worth of them.
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That's a good point, do we actually have analysts at the club for this?

There was James Beat(?) who's now in charge of Loans (I think) and I would assume MRKTInsights are only interested in transfers, so do we do any analysis at the training ground?
 
I detest stats, xG and all that stuff - mainly because I don't understand most and can't be bothered to learn.

That stats though, Ledson is shit - that's scientific fact
 
So its Ledson this season then.

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raefil said:
So its Ledson this season then.

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People have been criticising him for years raefil. This isn't an overnight, "we need a new scapegoat" thing. Besides the discussion came because a neutral fan drew attention to Ledson's stats. Also surely a scapegoat is someone who is seen as responsible for our failings? Is anyone here criticising Ledson for anything other than things that are in his control?
 
Skin & Rathbone said:
That's a good point, do we actually have analysts at the club for this?

There was James Beat(?) who's now in charge of Loans (I think) and I would assume MRKTInsights are only interested in transfers, so do we do any analysis at the training ground?
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Not sure. I know they wear trackers in training so they probably get a lot of data through that which they can review later to see running stats etc. Not sure if they have analysts specifically tracking these other types of performance data, but it's a missed opportunity if not.
 
Doyler said:
Backed up by stats, and like someone else has said, a large portion of our fan base have never rated him.

Plus, you're one to talk with the vitriol you directed towards Robbie Brady on here!
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good thing with Brady he proved me wrong.

In the friendlies, so far, Ledson was one of our better performers.

Lets hope he makes some eat their words as Brady has donne with me.


One of PNEs downfalls is the speed of passing, yes we pass the ball around but its oh so slow.

I notice with Ledson pre season is that hes trying to play more a Ben Pearson type role. Hard in the tackle, never been any doubt with that, but he seems to be putting his foot on the ball, a little more. Thats how he played when he won player of the season, hopefully, this season, weve got that player back again.

Im always of the opinion, as a new season starts, that every player starts with a clean slate.
 
Skin & Rathbone said:
That's a good point, do we actually have analysts at the club for this?

There was James Beat(?) who's now in charge of Loans (I think) and I would assume MRKTInsights are only interested in transfers, so do we do any analysis at the training ground?
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Oh yes, we have analysts:

“We’ve been working on stuff, so I’ve said to our data analysts that we wanted to be better at certain things last season (sic)” said Lowe

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Three key areas PNE improvement has been targeted by Ryan Lowe

PNE kick-off on Friday night at home to Sheffield United
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cragtek said:
Not sure. I know they wear trackers in training so they probably get a lot of data through that which they can review later to see running stats etc. Not sure if they have analysts specifically tracking these other types of performance data, but it's a missed opportunity if not.
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yes we have analysts doing this work...

our chief analyst joined us last season from another Champ club (who'd finished higher the season before) and says the atmosphere and working conditions at Euxton are far better than he experienced at his previous club. All our different medical team will focus on different aspect of the stats, such as Luke Hemmings or John Lucas.
its not just running stats but sprinting stats within those running stats incl comparisons with other clubs. - match days and training.

As for stats people like Graham Atkinson work for OPTA on match days doing the various analysis of passes; shots; etc etc......
 
Durutti said:
The club need to be getting this guy involved as a technical consultant or something. Is he still scouting out in Europe? Lowe needs all the help he can get.
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Agree. I think he’s back in the UK now. He used to appear on From The Finney now and then and I think he was on Not The Second Tier recently doing some transfer analysis.
 
TepiOrNotTepi said:
Agree. I think he’s back in the UK now. He used to appear on From The Finney now and then and I think he was on Not The Second Tier recently doing some transfer analysis.
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Any idea where? Been promoted/moved up clubs loads in the last few years. The club needs to be keeping an eye on this lad, could well be a positive replacement for PR.
 
Deyang1988 said:
I'm surprised oxford didn't come back in for him since they went up? Always seemed to be well liked there.
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He wouldn't want to move back down there with his partner's job let's be honest.

If another North West team comes in with similar wages then that will probably be the move he makes.
 
sports rehab said:
yes we have analysts doing this work...

our chief analyst joined us last season from another Champ club (who'd finished higher the season before) and says the atmosphere and working conditions at Euxton are far better than he experienced at his previous club. All our different medical team will focus on different aspect of the stats, such as Luke Hemmings or John Lucas.
its not just running stats but sprinting stats within those running stats incl comparisons with other clubs. - match days and training.

As for stats people like Graham Atkinson work for OPTA on match days doing the various analysis of passes; shots; etc etc......
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Great info, thanks sr.
 
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