Lowe interview.

[Tugg Speedman]

In football terms we don’t.

The money we do have is not being ploughed into players wages.

The 21 million comes from a proportion of future income and an investment from a US group who own 20% of the club.

So you want to own a football club?

Lower league teams are a cash drain. Simon Hallett, owner of Plymouth Argyle, says his investment experience helped him transform the finances of his boyhood club

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You can't plead poverty and claim you can't compete whilst at the same time spend £21 million on an academy & training facilities. That's in football terms, or are you spending the £21 million on something that's not football related?

Oh to have a £21 million sum for PNE to spend on anything!

 

[unconvinced]

Being a founder member of the I hate Lowey camp I do think we can get a bit wound up and ott on his comments, after all we all know he's a genuine gobshite and has been since he joined. He's mentioned last week about not having time to do his homework on Middlesbrough and today is genuinely a great opportunity to be doing some proper scouting on prospects, that would probs be time well spent imo. With comments like last week then being on the media when there's clearly work to be done he'll attract negative attention no doubt.

Didn't have time to his homework?
Let's see... Boro, a team managed by a midfielder famed for his calmness in possession, ball retention and passing ability. A side built around possession and midfield dominance.
Lowe's big plan was to give them all the possession and the entirety of the midfield.
No homework required, just 30 seconds thought.

 

[Naughton's moustache]

Didn't have time to his homework?
Let's see... Boro, a team managed by a midfielder famed for his calmness in possession, ball retention and passing ability. A side built around possession and midfield dominance.
Lowe's big plan was to give them all the possession and the entirety of the midfield.
No homework required, just 30 seconds thought.

He does that with nearly all opposition midfields wèek in, week out, while our midfield hang around just in front of the back 3 to protect them as (in some fans eyes an Lowe's) we'd just concede easily all the time if they pushed further up the pitch an got in their faces.
Funnily enough, on the few occasions we've done that (usually after conceding first an then coming out all guns blazing fir 15 mins early 2nd half) we've usually scored!!!
Well, who knew!!

 

[wld]

Didn't have time to his homework?
Let's see... Boro, a team managed by a midfielder famed for his calmness in possession, ball retention and passing ability. A side built around possession and midfield dominance.
Lowe's big plan was to give them all the possession and the entirety of the midfield.
No homework required, just 30 seconds thought.

I asked a Boro season ticket holder friend how they played (I already suspected) and as soon as they told me I knew what the outcome would be if we played the way we always do with Whiteman and Ledson. That was a 2 minute conversation and I’m not paid hundreds of thousands a year to manage a football team.

"We knew it was going to be tough but it was a little bit tougher than I expected.

No more words needed.

 

[Bobbage]

He's mentioned last week about not having time to do his homework on Middlesbrough and today is genuinely a great opportunity to be doing some proper scouting on prospects, that would probs be time well spent imo.

I mean, I know I'm preaching to the converted here, but what the fucking fuck is our "Chief Scout" James Wallace doing? Is he not the one who should be scouting future opponents and giving detailed reports back?

Surely he's done more than watching all 63 seconds of Onomah's last Fulham appearance before insisting we sign him?

 

[Jack Daniels]

I mean, I know I'm preaching to the converted here, but what the fucking fuck is our "Chief Scout" James Wallace doing? Is he not the one who should be scouting future opponents and giving detailed reports back?

Surely he's done more than watching all 63 seconds of Onomah's last Fulham appearance before insisting we sign him?

Careful, you'll get shouted down for pointing out the obvious.

 

[SF]

Say what you want about Alex Neil but he worked long hours and was meticulous. I'd love to hear Gally's opinion on the contrast in management styles (work ethic).

 

[Bobbage]

Careful, you'll get shouted down for pointing out the obvious.

 

[Naughton's moustache]

Say what you want about Alex Neil but he worked long hours and was meticulous. I'd love to hear Gally's opinion on the contrast in management styles (work ethic).

You don't hear much from Gally these days full stop!

 

[Ibahjanner]

You can't plead poverty and claim you can't compete whilst at the same time spend £21 million on an academy & training facilities. That's in football terms, or are you spending the £21 million on something that's not football related?

Oh to have a £21 million sum for PNE to spend on anything!

Okay I rarely say anything about Argyle on here but i do comparisons in my mind between the two clubs but to clear some things up will try and explain a few things about budget etc.
The thinking behind the club is that it has to be self sufficient. Last season the accounts would show we lost 250000, however if you followed things within that loss was things like replacing half the seats in the stadium. Repairing the roof. Installing a rain water collection system to water the pitch. There is other things but it gives you an idea. The accounts also showed 6.5 million in the bank. Since then a group of Americans have bought into the club to the sum of 4 million via a share issue. They were described as having big money but nobody knows what the overall wealth is. What we do know the same group have just purchased Halpoi tel aviv in Israel hence us probably going there pre season. Since coming in the club had purchased the goals five a side centre near the club. Only difference I see is that on match days they have opened a kiddy fan zone area within it. They have also gone into a scheme modernising the brickfields sports area with the city council. The cost of this is 21 million where Argyle will be paying 11 million of this. It will upgrade the acadamy to level 2 with Indoor playing facilities.

Next season yes we will be favourites to go straight down but i hold hope in that this season we would of made about 2 million profit and with another 10 million being in the championship we can hold our own.
My thoughts on Lowe well I never liked his soundbites and first pups. It was annoying that his first interview with you was a Carbon copy of what he said at Argyle and gave no thanks to the club etc. However he has done better than I expected.
I will finish off Argyle isn't or wasn't about Lowe or Schumacher But about teams throughout the whole club and any manager coming in would have a chance to succeed.

 

[Thracia]

Okay I rarely say anything about Argyle on here but i do comparisons in my mind between the two clubs but to clear some things up will try and explain a few things about budget etc.
The thinking behind the club is that it has to be self sufficient. Last season the accounts would show we lost 250000, however if you followed things within that loss was things like replacing half the seats in the stadium. Repairing the roof. Installing a rain water collection system to water the pitch. There is other things but it gives you an idea. The accounts also showed 6.5 million in the bank. Since then a group of Americans have bought into the club to the sum of 4 million via a share issue. They were described as having big money but nobody knows what the overall wealth is. What we do know the same group have just purchased Halpoi tel aviv in Israel hence us probably going there pre season. Since coming in the club had purchased the goals five a side centre near the club. Only difference I see is that on match days they have opened a kiddy fan zone area within it. They have also gone into a scheme modernising the brickfields sports area with the city council. The cost of this is 21 million where Argyle will be paying 11 million of this. It will upgrade the acadamy to level 2 with Indoor playing facilities.

Next season yes we will be favourites to go straight down but i hold hope in that this season we would of made about 2 million profit and with another 10 million being in the championship we can hold our own.
My thoughts on Lowe well I never liked his soundbites and first pups. It was annoying that his first interview with you was a Carbon copy of what he said at Argyle and gave no thanks to the club etc. However he has done better than I expected.
I will finish off Argyle isn't or wasn't about Lowe or Schumacher But about teams throughout the whole club and any manager coming in would have a chance to succeed.

Yeah, you guys are doing it the right way - realising that ambition involves not just words but action; realising that capital projects and repairs and maintenance are investments in the club's future, not costs to be put off until the next owner comes along.

We were promised a state-of-the-art £15m Cat-2-ready training ground too, years ago now.

But our owners lied to us, and as soon as they got what they really wanted - planning permission to build a load of houses on the adjacent land - the training ground was cancelled.

We don't repair roofs, we let them leak. We don't fix the pitch, we let it cut up. We stick a tent in the car park and call it a fan zone, with plans to reopen a tiny old café bar and call that a fan zone instead.

We do spend money though - only we prefer to throw £24m a year away on wages for a squad full of one-paced, unexciting, workmanlike footballers, plus 3 or 4 decent ones to hold the whole mess together.

We run down and outsource everything else - we're given top-6 promises, served bottom-6 product, while scraping together enough 0-0s to make mid-table. Lowe calls this an Attacking Brand of Football, and believes we're lucky to have it.

But similar to Argyle, PNE isn't about Lowe, but about the one man in control of all football club operations - any manager coming in has no chance of succeeding.

 

[Keeper1]

Yeah, you guys are doing it the right way - realising that ambition involves not just words but action; realising that capital projects and repairs and maintenance are investments in the club's future, not costs to be put off until the next owner comes along.

We were promised a state-of-the-art £15m Cat-2-ready training ground too, years ago now.

But our owners lied to us, and as soon as they got what they really wanted - planning permission to build a load of houses on the adjacent land - the training ground was cancelled.

We don't repair roofs, we let them leak. We don't fix the pitch, we let it cut up. We stick a tent in the car park and call it a fan zone, with plans to reopen a tiny old café bar and call that a fan zone instead.

We do spend money though - only we prefer to throw £24m a year away on wages for a squad full of one-paced, unexciting, workmanlike footballers, plus 3 or 4 decent ones to hold the whole mess together.

We run down and outsource everything else - we're given top-6 promises, served bottom-6 product, while scraping together enough 0-0s to make mid-table. Lowe calls this an Attacking Brand of Football, and believes we're lucky to have it.

But similar to Argyle, PNE isn't about Lowe, but about the one man in control of all football club operations - any manager coming in has no chance of succeeding.

👏👏👏👏 👍👍

 

[frogonastick]

Repairing the roof.

Oh look at those posh buggers splashing the cash!

They're just gloating now 😂

 

[Onedevilsst]

Yeah, you guys are doing it the right way - realising that ambition involves not just words but action; realising that capital projects and repairs and maintenance are investments in the club's future, not costs to be put off until the next owner comes along.

We were promised a state-of-the-art £15m Cat-2-ready training ground too, years ago now.

But our owners lied to us, and as soon as they got what they really wanted - planning permission to build a load of houses on the adjacent land - the training ground was cancelled.

We don't repair roofs, we let them leak. We don't fix the pitch, we let it cut up. We stick a tent in the car park and call it a fan zone, with plans to reopen a tiny old café bar and call that a fan zone instead.

We do spend money though - only we prefer to throw £24m a year away on wages for a squad full of one-paced, unexciting, workmanlike footballers, plus 3 or 4 decent ones to hold the whole mess together.

We run down and outsource everything else - we're given top-6 promises, served bottom-6 product, while scraping together enough 0-0s to make mid-table. Lowe calls this an Attacking Brand of Football, and believes we're lucky to have it.

But similar to Argyle, PNE isn't about Lowe, but about the one man in control of all football club operations - any manager coming in has no chance of succeeding.

Amen

 

[Tugg Speedman]

Okay I rarely say anything about Argyle on here but i do comparisons in my mind between the two clubs but to clear some things up will try and explain a few things about budget etc.
The thinking behind the club is that it has to be self sufficient. Last season the accounts would show we lost 250000, however if you followed things within that loss was things like replacing half the seats in the stadium. Repairing the roof. Installing a rain water collection system to water the pitch. There is other things but it gives you an idea. The accounts also showed 6.5 million in the bank. Since then a group of Americans have bought into the club to the sum of 4 million via a share issue. They were described as having big money but nobody knows what the overall wealth is. What we do know the same group have just purchased Halpoi tel aviv in Israel hence us probably going there pre season. Since coming in the club had purchased the goals five a side centre near the club. Only difference I see is that on match days they have opened a kiddy fan zone area within it. They have also gone into a scheme modernising the brickfields sports area with the city council. The cost of this is 21 million where Argyle will be paying 11 million of this. It will upgrade the acadamy to level 2 with Indoor playing facilities.

Next season yes we will be favourites to go straight down but i hold hope in that this season we would of made about 2 million profit and with another 10 million being in the championship we can hold our own.
My thoughts on Lowe well I never liked his soundbites and first pups. It was annoying that his first interview with you was a Carbon copy of what he said at Argyle and gave no thanks to the club etc. However he has done better than I expected.
I will finish off Argyle isn't or wasn't about Lowe or Schumacher But about teams throughout the whole club and any manager coming in would have a chance to succeed.

Rarely say anything about Argyle on here? You've got 40 posts this year 😆

Sounds like you've got good support from your council - something we don't really receive. You're still paying £11 million towards the academy, which isn't a small sum for a (current) League 1 club.

What I don't like is how your fans come one this forum having a pop at Lowe. Whether you like it or not, Lowe played a large part in the set-up that got you promoted from League 2 and getting you up there in League 1 before he left. But the Plymouth fans who come on here would have us believe it was all Schumacher and nothing to do with Lowe - something that's music to the ears of any of our fans who haven't taken to Lowe either and they lap it up and kiss your arse.

Personally I think Lowe is doing alright, given the restraints he is working under. The football has been mostly insipid at home, but you can see flashes of what he wants to do. Plus Lowe's only been our manager for 14-15 months. It will take a good while for him to get players in that he wants/needs, especially with the budget he's got to work with. He has also had some bad long term injuries to deal with, all seemingly with our strikers (Evans, Parrott, now Riis).

I really do believe some folk don't like Lowe just because he's a scouser. He gets very little (if any) credit when we do well and gets hammered when we lose. And now every interview/comment he makes is analysed and picked apart to the nth degree.

Anyway, he deserves a proper chance so I will give him until the end of the 2023/2024 season.

 

[California_PNE]

Rarely say anything about Argyle on here? You've got 40 posts this year 😆

Sounds like you've got good support from your council - something we don't really receive. You're still paying £11 million towards the academy, which isn't a small sum for a (current) League 1 club.

What I don't like is how your fans come one this forum having a pop at Lowe. Whether you like it or not, Lowe played a large part in the set-up that got you promoted from League 2 and getting you up there in League 1 before he left. But the Plymouth fans who come on here would have us believe it was all Schumacher and nothing to do with Lowe - something that's music to the ears of any of our fans who haven't taken to Lowe either and they lap it up and kiss your arse.

Personally I think Lowe is doing alright, given the restraints he is working under. The football has been mostly insipid at home, but you can see flashes of what he wants to do. Plus Lowe's only been our manager for 14-15 months. It will take a good while for him to get players in that he wants/needs, especially with the budget he's got to work with. He has also had some bad long term injuries to deal with, all seemingly with our strikers (Evans, Parrott, now Riis).

I really do believe some folk don't like Lowe just because he's a scouser. He gets very little (if any) credit when we do well and gets hammered when we lose. And now every interview/comment he makes is analysed and picked apart to the nth degree.

Anyway, he deserves a proper chance so I will give him until the end of the 2023/2024 season.

Lowey is shite cha shave the typing bollocks

 

[Ibahjanner]

Rarely say anything about Argyle on here? You've got 40 posts this year 😆

Sounds like you've got good support from your council - something we don't really receive. You're still paying £11 million towards the academy, which isn't a small sum for a (current) League 1 club.

What I don't like is how your fans come one this forum having a pop at Lowe. Whether you like it or not, Lowe played a large part in the set-up that got you promoted from League 2 and getting you up there in League 1 before he left. But the Plymouth fans who come on here would have us believe it was all Schumacher and nothing to do with Lowe - something that's music to the ears of any of our fans who haven't taken to Lowe either and they lap it up and kiss your arse.

Personally I think Lowe is doing alright, given the restraints he is working under. The football has been mostly insipid at home, but you can see flashes of what he wants to do. Plus Lowe's only been our manager for 14-15 months. It will take a good while for him to get players in that he wants/needs, especially with the budget he's got to work with. He has also had some bad long term injuries to deal with, all seemingly with our strikers (Evans, Parrott, now Riis).

I really do believe some folk don't like Lowe just because he's a scouser. He gets very little (if any) credit when we do well and gets hammered when we lose. And now every interview/comment he makes is analysed and picked apart to the nth degree.

Anyway, he deserves a proper chance so I will give him until the end of the 2023/2024 season

Didnt know how many posts but interesting, but as I said rarely do i mention argyle directly.
You will not find anywhere I have slagged Lowe off. I said there are things I didn't like about him but that's just me. Its his persona and i accept it was what Argyle needed when he was appointed after Derek Adams. Lowe and Schumacher are like chalk and cheese in personalities maybe thats why they were good together. I did say that the success of Lowe and Schumacher isn't down to either of them but down to the teams in the background, which makes any manager coming in a decent chance to make a success of things. As for Lowe yes I do think he has done better than I was expecting hence me being on here to follow how he is doing. Just before he left we lost heavily against Wycombe where ainsworth totally outthrought him tactically, considered in the championship he would come up against better managers and would struggle. As for him moving no I never had any amnoyance any person who can work nearer to home on higher wages would of done the same. Schumacher on this weeks efl blog says about him leaving and how hard it was for him to travel and see family.
In my mind I make comparisons between the clubs. Don't know how much money is in the background of argyle but betting its not a percentage that's in your background. Can't understand why when they are successful buisiness people they haven't diversified your club to build a Regular income 24/7. Consider all smaller clubs need to do it

 

[sports rehab]

Rarely say anything about Argyle on here? You've got 40 posts this year 😆

Sounds like you've got good support from your council - something we don't really receive. You're still paying £11 million towards the academy, which isn't a small sum for a (current) League 1 club.

What I don't like is how your fans come one this forum having a pop at Lowe. Whether you like it or not, Lowe played a large part in the set-up that got you promoted from League 2 and getting you up there in League 1 before he left. But the Plymouth fans who come on here would have us believe it was all Schumacher and nothing to do with Lowe - something that's music to the ears of any of our fans who haven't taken to Lowe either and they lap it up and kiss your arse.

Personally I think Lowe is doing alright, given the restraints he is working under. The football has been mostly insipid at home, but you can see flashes of what he wants to do. Plus Lowe's only been our manager for 14-15 months. It will take a good while for him to get players in that he wants/needs, especially with the budget he's got to work with. He has also had some bad long term injuries to deal with, all seemingly with our strikers (Evans, Parrott, now Riis).

I really do believe some folk don't like Lowe just because he's a scouser. He gets very little (if any) credit when we do well and gets hammered when we lose. And now every interview/comment he makes is analysed and picked apart to the nth degree.

Anyway, he deserves a proper chance so I will give him until the end of the 2023/2024 season.

Top Post....

 

[lenny]

"The team have to believe they can go anywhere in this division and win - don't have any fear against anybody, play on the front foot, be aggressive, trust your defenders and get the balls through to the strikers. If we can add the right players at the top end of the pitch in the summer, we'll be a threat to every team."
Tony Mowbray speaking after drawing at Burnley last night slightly different than Lowe thinks we should play .😰 the owners need to read this as well .👍

 

[simon_pne]

Rarely say anything about Argyle on here? You've got 40 posts this year 😆

Sounds like you've got good support from your council - something we don't really receive. You're still paying £11 million towards the academy, which isn't a small sum for a (current) League 1 club.

What I don't like is how your fans come one this forum having a pop at Lowe. Whether you like it or not, Lowe played a large part in the set-up that got you promoted from League 2 and getting you up there in League 1 before he left. But the Plymouth fans who come on here would have us believe it was all Schumacher and nothing to do with Lowe - something that's music to the ears of any of our fans who haven't taken to Lowe either and they lap it up and kiss your arse.

Personally I think Lowe is doing alright, given the restraints he is working under. The football has been mostly insipid at home, but you can see flashes of what he wants to do. Plus Lowe's only been our manager for 14-15 months. It will take a good while for him to get players in that he wants/needs, especially with the budget he's got to work with. He has also had some bad long term injuries to deal with, all seemingly with our strikers (Evans, Parrott, now Riis).

I really do believe some folk don't like Lowe just because he's a scouser. He gets very little (if any) credit when we do well and gets hammered when we lose. And now every interview/comment he makes is analysed and picked apart to the nth degree.

Anyway, he deserves a proper chance so I will give him until the end of the 2023/2024 season.

Spot on!