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andy_pne77 said:
He talks about his and Lowes time at Plymouth and hinted that teams last season had sussed out the way they played and it had become a bit predictable especially against the top six teams. A bit one dimensional even when they brought subs on. He said about learning from last season and bringing in players this year that would get goals from different parts of the pitch and they could change tactics a bit.
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Trying to score solely by teeing up one ‘wing-back’ by the other does seem a bit self-limiting.
 
deepdaledreamer said:
Only just reading this thread, and not sure what comes after but apart from swapping Potts and Browne around i wouldn't disagree with this.
Potts spends a lot of time on defensive duties and can get forward so i don't see why he wouldn't make a decent RB.
Browney, whether he likes it or not does not command or grasp central midfield anywhere near enough to warrant a place in that position but is mobile and energetic enough to play right side, which he should concentrate on. He has abilities but is not technical enough to dictate play.
As in many walks in life people/players don't want to be what they are and what they are good at but want to be something they are not.
Que Cera serra!
Life and Football is cyclical and 4-4-2 will make a comeback. So many Teams want to play 3-5-2 but just don't have the personnel and end up playing the defensive 5-3-2 (5-3-1-1)
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I suggested it that way as I've seen Browne play RB in a 4 and do well. I'm happy to be corrected but I don't think Potts has played RB in a 4 has he? I take your points though. They could easily be interchangeable
 
deepdaledreamer said:
Only just reading this thread, and not sure what comes after but apart from swapping Potts and Browne around i wouldn't disagree with this.
Potts spends a lot of time on defensive duties and can get forward so i don't see why he wouldn't make a decent RB.
Browney, whether he likes it or not does not command or grasp central midfield anywhere near enough to warrant a place in that position but is mobile and energetic enough to play right side, which he should concentrate on. He has abilities but is not technical enough to dictate play.
As in many walks in life people/players don't want to be what they are and what they are good at but want to be something they are not.
Que Cera serra!
Life and Football is cyclical and 4-4-2 will make a comeback. So many Teams want to play 3-5-2 but just don't have the personnel and end up playing the defensive 5-3-2 (5-3-1-1)
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Suppose we should be thankful for 3-5-2. AN used to use 4-2-3-1!!!
 
SF said:
What's your point? He finished 7th with it at one point, and we actually scored goals.

It was far more attacking than this setup.
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Neil's time showed that setup is about more than just the formation. Personnel and intent are just as important.

Neil eventually tied himself up in a tactical knot and couldn't get out of his over-programmed, cautious rut.

Lowe is lacking quality in certain areas - obviously up front and I think we're pretty ropy in terms of quality at centre-back so we're left with the dour, effectively 6 man defence. We aint gonna score much so we've gradually been suckered into safety first. This is psychological as much as anything else in my opinion - hopefully the break will be a bit of a kick of the arse.
 
Seeing as how the owner has publicly said that the club is up for sale and is no longer willing to invest any money into the playing squad does it really matter who is manager? I can't see any manager (on our budget) getting much more out of this group of players. The only player I feel bad for is Ali McCann who was obviously sold a lie about the ambition of the club when he joined.
Lowe isn't going to rip up any trees here and obviously most of his management is more about the talking and less about the tactics but he's probably going to finish in a position that matches the quality of our squad, the middle-bottom half. If we lose the last bit of quality in our squad next summer then I could see us getting relegated but that may not be a bad thing right now as it may force Hemmings to reduce his ridiculous asking price and entice more potential buyers.
I don't think the sacking of Lowe is going to happen any time soon because the owner's only concern is stopping the losses before he finds a buyer and Lowe is neither taking us towards relegation or promotion right now we are simply floating along in mediocrity.
 
Bring_Back_Nuge said:
I don't think the sacking of Lowe is going to happen any time soon because the owner's only concern is stopping the losses before he finds a buyer and Lowe is neither taking us towards relegation or promotion right now we are simply floating along in mediocrity.
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At present, I feel relegation is a very real possibility this season. Something needs to change positively over the next month or so or things will start to get extremely worrying.

History shows that the trigger gets pulled when the minimum expectation of staying in the championship looks at risk. It'll be interesting to see what happens in that case - is that expectation still valid? I suspect that stemming the financial losses is now more important as you say.
 
OB1 said:
Have we really been on holiday for most of this break rather than in training? What have they done to deserve a rest so far this season?
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Probably because if they have a rest there is less chance of our better players in our threadbare squad get injured.
 
simo said:
Neil's time showed that setup is about more than just the formation. Personnel and intent are just as important.

Neil eventually tied himself up in a tactical knot and couldn't get out of his over-programmed, cautious rut.

Lowe is lacking quality in certain areas - obviously up front and I think we're pretty ropy in terms of quality at centre-back so we're left with the dour, effectively 6 man defence. We aint gonna score much so we've gradually been suckered into safety first. This is psychological as much as anything else in my opinion - hopefully the break will be a bit of a kick of the arse.
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It feels like we've regressed 8 years and the squad is back to a similar quality to what it was under Grayson, with the sole aim of consolidation.

This would be more digestible if we weren't sold a pack of lies in the summer.
 
Bring_Back_Nuge said:
Seeing as how the owner has publicly said that the club is up for sale and is no longer willing to invest any money into the playing squad does it really matter who is manager? I can't see any manager (on our budget) getting much more out of this group of players. The only player I feel bad for is Ali McCann who was obviously sold a lie about the ambition of the club when he joined.
Lowe isn't going to rip up any trees here and obviously most of his management is more about the talking and less about the tactics but he's probably going to finish in a position that matches the quality of our squad, the middle-bottom half. If we lose the last bit of quality in our squad next summer
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Bring_Back_Nuge said:
then I could see us getting relegated but that may not be a bad thing right now as it may force
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Bring_Back_Nuge said:
Hemmings to reduce his ridiculous asking price and entice more potential buyers.
I don't think the sacking of Lowe is going to happen any time soon because the owner's only concern is stopping the losses before he finds a buyer and Lowe is neither taking us towards relegation or promotion right now we are simply floating along in mediocrity.
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I don't see any positive argument for getting relegated , if the players are going to be let go anyway . And attendances always go down unless the club is a 'Sunderland' type.

Isn't the stadium itself the main part of any asking price?
 
Bring_Back_Nuge said:
Seeing as how the owner has publicly said that the club is up for sale and is no longer willing to invest any money into the playing squad does it really matter who is manager? I can't see any manager (on our budget) getting much more out of this group of players. The only player I feel bad for is Ali McCann who was obviously sold a lie about the ambition of the club when he joined.
Lowe isn't going to rip up any trees here and obviously most of his management is more about the talking and less about the tactics but he's probably going to finish in a position that matches the quality of our squad, the middle-bottom half. If we lose the last bit of quality in our squad next summer then I could see us getting relegated but that may not be a bad thing right now as it may force Hemmings to reduce his ridiculous asking price and entice more potential buyers.
I don't think the sacking of Lowe is going to happen any time soon because the owner's only concern is stopping the losses before he finds a buyer and Lowe is neither taking us towards relegation or promotion right now we are simply floating along in mediocrity.
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I wouldn't be too sure of that.
 
noelpne said:
I don't see any positive argument for getting relegated , if the players are going to be let go anyway . And attendances always go down unless the club is a 'Sunderland' type.

Isn't the stadium itself the main part of any asking price?
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Regarding the stadium, what can you do with it if you don’t run a football team from it? Without a decent team it’s more of a millstone than anything else.
 
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