Lowe

[Argyleloyal]

Argyle fan here, hope you don’t mind me posting.


Lowe hasn’t got a plan b and is stubborn to try different things if stuff isn’t going to plan. He’s got the gift of the gab and says stuff what people wants to hear in my opinion. When he become our manager he was name dropping Stevie G and Klopp and saying he’s spoke to them and they will loan us players but I can’t think of a player they loaned us.

He said we didn’t have an identity when he took the job but we did and think our average crowds was about 10K and went up by about 3K while he was in charge. He didn’t like it when just before it got announced he was your new manager that we offered his number 2 the managers job and he accepted it.


I got told at the time of the announcement by someone who is quite close to the squad etc, that Lowe was the face of the operation but Schumacher (his number 2 with Bury and Argyle and now our manager) was the brains behind the operation and now that’s proving to be true.

 

[Joanpne]

Argyle fan here, hope you don’t mind me posting.


Lowe hasn’t got a plan b and is stubborn to try different things if stuff isn’t going to plan. He’s got the gift of the gab and says stuff what people wants to hear in my opinion. When he become our manager he was name dropping Stevie G and Klopp and saying he’s spoke to them and they will loan us players but I can’t think of a player they loaned us.

He said we didn’t have an identity when he took the job but we did and think our average crowds was about 10K and went up by about 3K while he was in charge. He didn’t like it when just before it got announced he was your new manager that we offered his number 2 the managers job and he accepted it.


I got told at the time of the announcement by someone who is quite close to the squad etc, that Lowe was the face of the operation but Schumacher (his number 2 with Bury and Argyle and now our manager) was the brains behind the operation and now that’s proving to be true.

No we have played some really good football at times, even today for most of the first half, but we cannot score. That isn’t down to Ryan Lowe he simply hasn’t been backed. The fault squarely lies with our owners and their employees. It’s been the same with every manager they drain the positivity and ambition out of them after promising them backing. We are a poison chalice and a joke RL is a good manager at a shite run club.

 

[cumbrianwhite]

They need to aim their anger at the board not the manager

Exactly. Lowe been made a if of as much as the supporters, if not more. Same dialect, different season.

 

[Durutti]

No we have played some really good football at times, even today for most of the first half, but we cannot score. That isn’t down to Ryan Lowe he simply hasn’t been backed. The fault squarely lies with our owners and their employees. It’s been the same with every manager they drain the positivity and ambition out of them after promising them backing. We are a poison chalice and a joke RL is a good manager at a shite run club.

I don't buy that. As others have said, Rotherham are scoring. Riis would be welcomed into most Championship squads because he's a goalscorer (hence the massive bid from a big hitter at this level. This system is crap, it's so easy to play against because it's so slow.

Ridsdale and Hemmings are.awful, no doubt but that doesn't excuse how this first team have been managed this season. It's been poor and we deserve to be where we are.

 

[cumbrianwhite]

Absolutely fucking disgusting substitutions. All 3 of them were wrong and completely killed us. Deserved reaction and he needs to fucking get a grip

They were that bizarre that I’m hanging on to the belief Lowe was among a statement to board! Deep
Down I know this is pish but hey ho

 

[Joanpne]

I don't buy that. As others have said, Rotherham are scoring. Riis would be welcomed into most Championship squads because he's a goalscorer (hence the massive bid from a big hitter at this level. This system is crap, it's so easy to play against because it's so slow.

Ridsdale and Hemmings are.awful, no doubt but that doesn't excuse how this first team have been managed this season. It's been poor and we deserve to be where we are.

Well Burnley didn’t find it easy to play against us, neither did Sheffield Utd until they scored. No one has scored more than 2 against us, and only then today so we are not that easy to play against.

 

[MattPNE17]

Argyle fan here, hope you don’t mind me posting.


Lowe hasn’t got a plan b and is stubborn to try different things if stuff isn’t going to plan. He’s got the gift of the gab and says stuff what people wants to hear in my opinion. When he become our manager he was name dropping Stevie G and Klopp and saying he’s spoke to them and they will loan us players but I can’t think of a player they loaned us.

He said we didn’t have an identity when he took the job but we did and think our average crowds was about 10K and went up by about 3K while he was in charge. He didn’t like it when just before it got announced he was your new manager that we offered his number 2 the managers job and he accepted it.


I got told at the time of the announcement by someone who is quite close to the squad etc, that Lowe was the face of the operation but Schumacher (his number 2 with Bury and Argyle and now our manager) was the brains behind the operation and now that’s proving to be true.

Always good to get an outside take from a friendly opposition fan, welcome.

Lowe is certainly wedded to his 3-5-2, even when he probably doesn't have the personnel to play it how he likes, particularly the wingbacks. We don't have a RB, and even the one RWB we play is normally a central midfielder, although I gather he did that with you when he started playing Edwards and Grant as wingbacks.

The style of play has been alright in patches. We played very well today for the first 35 minutes for example - we can have our moments. Putting the ball in the onion bag has clearly been the biggest issue so far. We didn't struggle for that last season, although that was mostly down to us getting Cameron Archer on loan from his mate Stevie G's Villa, he was sensational for us.

It doesn't really matter who our manager is at the moment. The structure above him is shambolic. We were all led up the garden path this summer with an early bird season ticket price to get the gates up, the signings we started off with and the noises the club was making... we've somehow ended up with a strikeforce of Riis (head turned by Boro), Parrott (young lad never scored at this level), Maguire (can't remember his last goal) and Evans (I don't need to put anything in these brackets).

There's a chance we might be playing you next season, whether you get promoted or not! Hopefully the ownership has changed by then though.

 

[DSPP]

The 2 best players today

I'd say Alvo, McCann, Hughes in that order

 

[SF]

He's no better than Frankie McAvoy

 

[flipper]

We are to midfield loaded.

Woodman
Storey -- Lindsay -- Hughes
Ledson ---- Whiteman
Brady ---- Johnson ---- Fernandez
Browne ------ Riis

Browne can play up front and would be better option to Parrott. Brady and Fernandez swapping sides.

This is what I would try

Browne shouldn't ever be on the pitch

 

[norky84]

I think Lowe wanted to sell Riis to bring reinforcements in . He never really played Riis for 90 min kept saying his head wasn’t in the right place.
But when the offer came in I guess it was to late to get replacements in .firmly at RL door for me .

I think it was said that Lowe vetoed the sale of Riis. What has gone quietly is Riis' interview where he said he wanted to. leave.

 

[California_PNE]

More than half of all games are boring now: not just ours. You only have to watch the EFL show to notice that teams aren't having a shot on target until the 75th minute. This infers that a high perecentage of too many matches are tedious bouts of meaningless possesssion at the end of which the ball rarely enters the box. I'm rather wary of the type of football that will be on offer in Qatar given the current brand of possession football we are enduring, the stifling heat and the fear of making a mistake. God help football.

Haha cheery as ever Paul but tend to agree, a lot of championship games are absolutely shite and we're in most of them

Possession based football is probably the right sort of aim for many clubs as with the right mix of high energy play these teams tend to do better over a full season. We've probs not that sort of mix in our squad so keep trying it is a bit weird, maybe high energy high press quick football direct football dressed up as something else will come back into fashion who knows... Probs would suit us better tbh

 

[Mickypne]

I think it was said that Lowe vetoed the sale of Riis. What has gone quietly is Riis' interview where he said he wanted to. leave.

In hindsight we should have sold him. I suppose it was a lose lose for pne and the fans because either we lost him, or kept him and he played shite which the latter has happened .

 

[California_PNE]

I think it was said that Lowe vetoed the sale of Riis. What has gone quietly is Riis' interview where he said he wanted to. leave.

God knows what went on but I didn't see the whole saga like that, Lowe wasn't starting riis we were desperate to fund Robinson, I thought it was Middlesbrough who didn't reach the club's asking price not the manager stepping in to save the day. And riis wanting to leave, I don't think anyone would blame him.

 

[Portishead]

Nah, this is a complete myth - the squad isn't strong and we have massive weaknesses of course but this stuff is wrong, I thought we didn't have wingbacks but the argument is we only have the players for this formation....

As far as I can see, we play with a back 6. Whiteman sits as deep as a defender and the so called wing backs rarely get forward meaningfully. Without support to our fairly toothless strikers, its no surprise we rarely threaten to score.

 

[Finneylad]

Bollocks. He’s come out and said Alvaro had a knock, not sure I believe him tbh. There was no reason to make any changes, we were playing well.

Agree, he should have left alvaro and the young Gordon Ramsey on to run themselves into the ground - last game before an international break.

Game over when he made those changes.

 

[Final Stand]

Bolton next season? That's a Derby I suppose.

Don’t forget the possibility of a derby against Barrow ?

 

[milkyken]

We don't have any players for RB or RW, so that's not false.

You're also not suggesting any alternative formations, unless I'm missing something in this blockbuster of a post?


But it isn't.

He didn't sign all of the players in this squad - he didn't sign Cunningham, Whiteman, Bauer, Lindsay, Browne, Evans, Johnson, McCann, Storey, Hughes, Ledson, Olosunde, Maguire or Potts.

Unless you're arguing he's not improved players, which is probably subjective at best.

Cheer up mate, it's not healthy to be this negative all of the time 🙂

Thing is hardly any football manager signs all the players at his disposal with the way football works these days

You need to work with the squad you have and find a system to suit.

 

[simon_pne]

He's no better than Frankie McAvoy

Sore head this morning?

 

[milkyken]

Argyle fan here, hope you don’t mind me posting.


Lowe hasn’t got a plan b and is stubborn to try different things if stuff isn’t going to plan. He’s got the gift of the gab and says stuff what people wants to hear in my opinion. When he become our manager he was name dropping Stevie G and Klopp and saying he’s spoke to them and they will loan us players but I can’t think of a player they loaned us.

He said we didn’t have an identity when he took the job but we did and think our average crowds was about 10K and went up by about 3K while he was in charge. He didn’t like it when just before it got announced he was your new manager that we offered his number 2 the managers job and he accepted it.


I got told at the time of the announcement by someone who is quite close to the squad etc, that Lowe was the face of the operation but Schumacher (his number 2 with Bury and Argyle and now our manager) was the brains behind the operation and now that’s proving to be true.

Same as Mike Marsh being the brains behind this. I don’t buy the bluff and bravado of Lowe and he plays the media game very well. He knows what he’s doing when saying he needs these players and that player but knowing we wouldn’t sign so the blame lies elsewhere. Don’t get me wrong he’s been dealt a pretty shit hand but he’s not excelling himself as a football manager.