Madness decision. Signed about 20 players and expected to put it all together in 10 games. Only Wednesday night they were 3-0 up at Middlesbrough!
Lowe
No doubt with a pay cut. However I wish I was in a position where my wages could be cut by £5k a week (or whatever it was) and still make £1 mill a year.
By all accounts the better of the Lowe Management Team is the guy who remained at Plymouth - Steven Schumacker is the glue seemingly and all Plymouth Argyle fans were happy he stayed and is doing a good job there. Ryan Lowe is your typical Scouser - full of talk and bluster but doesn't take responsibility for his own mistakes.
How can you enjoy a brand of football where you never score? People want to support a winning team.
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Alan Browne gives his Typically Honest view, and reveals our target for the season:
"We remain three points off the play-offs I think and top two was our ambition - some might not think it was realistic but those are the levels we set ourselves. That is slowly creeping away - 11 points already I think. This league is a strange one, where anything can happen, but to have only scored three goals, but be three points off the play-offs, it is one positive we can take from it."
"We remain three points off the play-offs I think and top two was our ambition - some might not think it was realistic but those are the levels we set ourselves. That is slowly creeping away - 11 points already I think. This league is a strange one, where anything can happen, but to have only scored three goals, but be three points off the play-offs, it is one positive we can take from it."
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We hear this a lot. Nowt ever changes
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Nonsense
Lost to Huddersfield and Millwall either side and also at home to Luton in last month.
I saw this before.
League results under McAvoy: Played 29, won 11, drew 9, lost 9. Points per game average 1.45 = 67 points over a season. Win % = 37 93%.
League results under Lowe: Played 35, won 12, drawn 15, lost 8. Points per game average 1.46 = 67 points over a season. Win % = 34.29%.
One was rightly heavily criticised for their poor managerial ability, the other seems immune from criticism from some.
League results under McAvoy: Played 29, won 11, drew 9, lost 9. Points per game average 1.45 = 67 points over a season. Win % = 37 93%.
League results under Lowe: Played 35, won 12, drawn 15, lost 8. Points per game average 1.46 = 67 points over a season. Win % = 34.29%.
One was rightly heavily criticised for their poor managerial ability, the other seems immune from criticism from some.
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For me it’s down to the football on show….it was bloody awful to watch under Frankie and it’s a lot easier on the eye watching Ryan Lowes team. However folk aren’t stupid and saw what was needed to complete the jigsaw but alas it never transpired.
Lowe has to toe the line but and we will probably only find out what has gone on once he’s been potted.
I know. I was being sarcastic.
Not immune, but take Frankie's winning streak of dead rubbers out, and there's light and day difference. I don't think many on here in the period leading up to the summer window were anything but content with Lowe, and the feeling of optimism developed substantially during the close-season too with some good noise coming out of the club around it's transfer policy. Lowe did that FTF episode which gave us all a bit of insight, and I think Ridsdale did one too. We had the early bird ticket pricing, and the trip to Spain in pre-season where social media seemed to explode for a weekend with Nobbers on Tour. We got rid of the swathes of shite we'd carried for yonks, and even paid up people like Bayliss who surely weren't any good for the dressing room. It felt fresh and optimistic around the place, on here & at the grounds too.
I look back to the first 3 games - Wigan - sold out away day, Hull at home where we battered them for 90 mins and Huddersfield in the cup where we won 4-1 away from home, and think if we'd have nicked a 0-1 at Wigan and put a couple of those chances away against Hull, we'd have been flying by now. The football, even yesterday, has been good for large parts of the games - it's the creativity and the finishing that's been lacking. This was an area the manager made damn clear he needed strengthening. He's been clear he wanted Archer, was after Andre Gray & nearly had him with us too, and I think Nahki Wells was in discussion but there was a real outcry on here over that too.
I know there's many on here who think we're too laboured, and our build-up too slow/sideways/backwards, but football is a game of fine margins, and I'm absolutely gutted today that the first 10 games have gone this way. It's cliche to say you can pick out a scuffed shot here, or a poor touch there, and blame a whole result on it, but we really have had moments in at least 6 of the 10 games where we should've won them. We gave a good second half account of ourselves against Wolves in the cup too, and Sheff U are 5 points clear of 3rd and 8 points clear of 7th already but we more than matched them for most of yesterday's game. It's not the 'attacking' brand of football that we were promised, and I'm sure Lowe is man enough to admit that he got that a bit wrong, but it's literally 6 weeks since we all believed we'd have a good go this year - we might've been let down a bit by Lowe's decisions, or by ITKs on here passing on duff (unbeknownst to them obviously) info, but the buck surely stops with the ownership and their lack of investment in key areas of the playing side doesn't it?
I mean I know it's been done to death, but what possesses someone with a controlling interest in a football club that they would fail to sign a single specialist RWB prior to the window closing? Lowe wouldn't sign knobheads, which could be Christie or even Norton Cuffey, but he did have Ethan Laird right there with pen in hand before Laird opted last minute for QPR, then all of a sudden, the resources tied up in the potential of that deal have vanished?
I think we take the International Break, hope to god Parrott and Browne both score whilst away with Ireland, and give Lowe the chance to 'go again' against Sunderland before we start baying for blood. To be fair, if the guillotine falls on his head, those same idle twats that gave him the job will still be in charge of who gets it next.. and how much money they allow them to spend in Jan.
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He didn’t have to sign parrot Brady or Woodburn we all know we needed a experienced striker a priority!
There is loads of strikers who would have been a upgraded .
Watching the highlights of the EFL .
Most clubs in div 1 & 2 seem to have better strikers than us.
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Those Frankie stats did include the 8 dead rubbers, but so do Lowe's to be fair.
When it really mattered, last season Frankie ended up in 18th place with P21 W6 D7 L8 F22 A27 Pts 25, for an PPG of 1.19 = 55 points over a season, and a win % of 28.5%.
Lowe so far this season is in 15th place with P10 W2 D6 L2 F3 A4 Pts 12, PPG 1.20 = 55 points over a season, win % 20.0%.
Which looks no better for Lowe! Certainly no "light and day difference".
Albeit after only 10 games, we're firmly in Frankie achievement territory.
Cardiff just sacked their manager after he achieved the club's lowest opening goal tally for 40 years, and they've had a veritable goal avalanche of 7 compared to our measly efforts.
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I went to watch Bristol Manor Farm draw with Frome 1-1 in the Southern League South yesterday for a tenner and it knocked spots off North Ends goalless bore draw with Cardiff a fortnight ago. Honest footy. Lots of chances, (Jol), crunching tackles. Great social club with Thatchers at £2.75 a pint. For the time being, PNE have lost me Im afraid. Poor fayre and too expensive.
Goal Avalanche 😂
It's all a bit depressing isn't it
Fair play Thrace - I hadn't bothered to do the maths, but had assumed Frankie's tenure was far more ill fated than Lowe's. I again haven't looked, but I would hope at least that chances created and possession stats are far superior under Lowe
Lowe also had dead rubber games last season. There's also the fact that last season we were so reliant on Archer. Take his goals away and that's a lot of points we would have been worse off.
Aye - not disagreeing with you, but we did have Archer. Just like last season we did have Riis and Frankie’s stats were pish too.
I firmly believe Lowe is twice the manager Frankie was. No amount of statistical insight will change that. I firmly think he’ll turn it round too, but he’s got to start scoring quick or fans will lose their shit
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The only managers who start talking about chances created and possession stats are managers like e.g. Graham Westley, whose teams are scoring no goals and achieving hopeless win percentages around, er, 20%.