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Aye - not disagreeing with you, but we did have Archer. Just like last season we did have Riis and Frankie’s stats were pish too.

I firmly believe Lowe is twice the manager Frankie was. No amount of statistical insight will change that. I firmly think he’ll turn it round too, but he’s got to start scoring quick or fans will lose their shit
We are stuck with what we have until the January window. The usual pattern is that if we are struggling at the bottom theyll put their hands in their pockets, mid table and above, forget it.
 
Haha cheery as ever Paul but tend to agree, a lot of championship games are absolutely shite and we're in most of them

Possession based football is probably the right sort of aim for many clubs as with the right mix of high energy play these teams tend to do better over a full season. We've probs not that sort of mix in our squad so keep trying it is a bit weird, maybe high energy high press quick football direct football dressed up as something else will come back into fashion who knows... Probs would suit us better tbh
This possession based football is boring, bring back a Billy Davies style 442 with wingers at least it gets you on the edge of your seat. We always used to have that underdog mentality at Deepdale and rough these big teams up a bit. Now it's too nicey nicey. You can't match these teams when we don't have the players. We have to do it a different way.
 
We are stuck with what we have until the January window. The usual pattern is that if we are struggling at the bottom theyll put their hands in their pockets, mid table and above, forget it.
Under the new regime post TH, not sure if investment is a given even if we are in dire straits at the end of December. Seem more intent on balancing the books these days.
 
If they're genuinely looking to sell the club, they should be.
They should be but I have my doubts that they are all that bothered. Or they aren't bothered enough to invest enough to keep us on the league if we are in trouble... they should give the club away. That'll stop them losing money annually. They aren't going to get the money they are looking for imo.
 
Haha cheery as ever Paul but tend to agree, a lot of championship games are absolutely shite and we're in most of them

Possession based football is probably the right sort of aim for many clubs as with the right mix of high energy play these teams tend to do better over a full season. We've probs not that sort of mix in our squad so keep trying it is a bit weird, maybe high energy high press quick football direct football dressed up as something else will come back into fashion who knows... Probs would suit us better tbh
That sort of style certainly suited Leicester when they won the Premier League and was exciting to watch 👍
 
Well Burnley didn’t find it easy to play against us, neither did Sheffield Utd until they scored. No one has scored more than 2 against us, and only then today so we are not that easy to play against.
Yes we are hard to breakdown because we are set up defend as a team in a very rigid shape. They are very well coached (by Mike Marsh). I'm sure the writer meant that we are easy to play against from an attacking pov. We are too deep, slow, laboured and lack creativity. We are very predictable going forward. We have created and scored little under RL. RL needs to tweak his midfield set up, which is not working and play to the strengths of the players he actually has. He ain't getting the best out of the forwards or attacking midfields in fact most of them look bloody awful and uncomfortable.
 
Those Frankie stats did include the 8 dead rubbers, but so do Lowe's to be fair.

When it really mattered, last season Frankie ended up in 18th place with P21 W6 D7 L8 F22 A27 Pts 25, for an PPG of 1.19 = 55 points over a season, and a win % of 28.5%.

Lowe so far this season is in 15th place with P10 W2 D6 L2 F3 A4 Pts 12, PPG 1.20 = 55 points over a season, win % 20.0%.

Which looks no better for Lowe! Certainly no "light and day difference".

Albeit after only 10 games, we're firmly in Frankie achievement territory.

Cardiff just sacked their manager after he achieved the club's lowest opening goal tally for 40 years, and they've had a veritable goal avalanche of 7 compared to our measly efforts.
Sorry but this "dead rubbers BS" really grinds my gears, it is pure agenda filled nonsense.

It is a 46 game season and professionals want to win, be it Game #1 or Game #46.

I am a massive Boxing Fan and when boxers have "tune up" fights, often against fighters below their level, they still want to KTFOOTO, this result doesn't diminish their record, it simply adds another notch onto their record as they have been professional both in training in a usual 10 - 12 week camp and with their on the night performance.

To suggest otherwise, in either sport, is pure ignorance.

Professional pride means you want to win.

By "dead rubbers", are you suggesting that 8 teams simply laid down and let us tickle their collective bellies?

I can guarantee that both Barnsley and Boro (1-3, 4-1) were up for the task in the changing room pre-match!!
 
Sorry but this "dead rubbers BS" really grinds my gears, it is pure agenda filled nonsense.

It is a 46 game season and professionals want to win, be it Game #1 or Game #46.

I am a massive Boxing Fan and when boxers have "tune up" fights, often against fighters below their level, they still want to KTFOOTO, this result doesn't diminish their record, it simply adds another notch onto their record as they have been professional both in training in a usual 10 - 12 week camp and with their on the night performance.

To suggest otherwise, in either sport, is pure ignorance.

Professional pride means you want to win.

By "dead rubbers", are you suggesting that 8 teams simply laid down and let us tickle their collective bellies?

I can guarantee that both Barnsley and Boro (1-3, 4-1) were up for the task in the changing room pre-match!!

Sorry Jack, but I don’t agree at all on that.

In the 8 games you mentioned in Frankie’s reign, it was during a covid season where teams were secure and it looked as if everyone just wanted the season over.

We played Brentford who had something to play for and got slapped 5-0 at home. Every other team were in mid table or comfortable with the position they were in. Teams wanted the season done with. I remember Browne coming out delighted it was over.

The point is Barnsley doesn’t really make sense. They were already down at that point and were arguably one of the worst teams we’ve ever seen in this division. My Nan could have come out and scored a few. Pointless end of season game.

Don’t agree with the point on professional pride. Long gone out of the game.
 


Drop your pride Lowe, sit down with O’Reilly and get him involved in the squad. Kids done everything asked of him on loan and we’re gonna lose him because you’re sticking to underperforming players

I have banged on here for an age and a time about O'Reilly, it would be a travesty if we allow him to leave on a Free.

I include the previous management in their failure of his undoubted talent.

Bring Adam home and bloody well use him (and Bennett, too!).

I am a massive fan of Lowe but gun to my head, a choice of Lowe or O'Reilly, then I am choosing Adam every single time.
 
Sorry Jack, but I don’t agree at all on that.

In the 8 games you mentioned in Frankie’s reign, it was during a covid season where teams were secure and it looked as if everyone just wanted the season over.

We played Brentford who had something to play for and got slapped 5-0 at home. Every other team were in mid table or comfortable with the position they were in. Teams wanted the season done with. I remember Browne coming out delighted it was over.

The point is Barnsley doesn’t really make sense. They were already down at that point and were arguably one of the worst teams we’ve ever seen in this division. My Nan could have come out and scored a few. Pointless end of season game.

Don’t agree with the point on professional pride. Long gone out of the game.
BS on your part.

Players are playing for new contracts, managers for keeping their jobs.

Are you suggesting that I don't bother turning up for the last 8 games of this season?
 
I have banged on here for an age and a time about O'Reilly, it would be a travesty if we allow him to leave on a Free.

I include the previous management in their failure of his undoubted talent.

Bring Adam home and bloody well use him (and Bennett, too!).
He’ll be gone at the end of his contract unless Lowe can convince him otherwise. From what I’d heard we burnt any bridges we had with him when we sent him out on loan again

Also are you aware how much that post reads like one of Voldemort posts 😂😂
 
I was trying to think back to such a miserable start to a season at Deepdale that I have witnessed since 1975/76 . Even in relegation seasons and the like seemed to usually start with a few wins and goals for some early false optimism! I noticed someone mentioned the poor start in 2005/06 under Davies which I remember being difficult so I looked it up.

We failed to win in our first 8 League games at Deepdale with 6 draws and 2 defeats. We only scored 3 goals in those 8 games and conceded 7. After we won our first home game against Hull on 1st November, we went on to win 11 of the 15 remaining home games and drew the other 4. That team had a superb defence conceding only 30 all season and although the attack was not prolific we were capable of getting wins and went on to the Play Off semis against Leeds.

That said Ryan Lowe is not even close to having even 10% of the coaching ability and the win at all costs mentality of Billy Davies.
 
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He’ll be gone at the end of his contract unless Lowe can convince him otherwise. From what I’d heard we burnt any bridges we had with him when we sent him out on loan again

Also are you aware how much that post reads like one of Voldemort posts 😂😂
Quite aware, even as I typed away, but some things are important enough to bang on about.

We are obviously cost cutting yet have a diamond within our own hands that we are seemingly going to toss away.

It is actions like this that cause people to think "what is the fucking point???".

I'll be honest, at 53 (1st game in 78), the only reason I go on season in, season out is the meet up with about 6 or 7 mates. Even this is wearing thin.
 
We are stuck with what we have until the January window. The usual pattern is that if we are struggling at the bottom theyll put their hands in their pockets, mid table and above, forget it.
Do you know I’m not even sure they will bother in January regardless of where we are, they are simply going to withdraw funds every season, they won’t care where we are or what league.
 
Argyle fan here, hope you don’t mind me posting.


Lowe hasn’t got a plan b and is stubborn to try different things if stuff isn’t going to plan. He’s got the gift of the gab and says stuff what people wants to hear in my opinion. When he become our manager he was name dropping Stevie G and Klopp and saying he’s spoke to them and they will loan us players but I can’t think of a player they loaned us.

He said we didn’t have an identity when he took the job but we did and think our average crowds was about 10K and went up by about 3K while he was in charge. He didn’t like it when just before it got announced he was your new manager that we offered his number 2 the managers job and he accepted it.


I got told at the time of the announcement by someone who is quite close to the squad etc, that Lowe was the face of the operation but Schumacher (his number 2 with Bury and Argyle and now our manager) was the brains behind the operation and now that’s proving to be true.
The best managers more often than not have a trusted team that Comes-with-the-#1-Man, that they've built-up over time.

It makes me wonder whether "The Riddler"- Yet Again -did this appointment On-the-Cheap, and just took RL instead of the Whole Package ????
 
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