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Jack Daniels said:
Sorry but this "dead rubbers BS" really grinds my gears, it is pure agenda filled nonsense.

It is a 46 game season and professionals want to win, be it Game #1 or Game #46.

I am a massive Boxing Fan and when boxers have "tune up" fights, often against fighters below their level, they still want to KTFOOTO, this result doesn't diminish their record, it simply adds another notch onto their record as they have been professional both in training in a usual 10 - 12 week camp and with their on the night performance.

To suggest otherwise, in either sport, is pure ignorance.

Professional pride means you want to win.

By "dead rubbers", are you suggesting that 8 teams simply laid down and let us tickle their collective bellies?

I can guarantee that both Barnsley and Boro (1-3, 4-1) were up for the task in the changing room pre-match!!
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I get what you are saying and agree. Having said that, these are footballers not boxers, and I think the 8 games were all at the end of season when if you are going nowhere pride leaves the building and flip flops run in. We have seen it many times at this club.
 
Joanpne said:
I get what you are saying and agree. Having said that, these are footballers not boxers, and I think the 8 games were all at the end of season when if you are going nowhere pride leaves the building and flip flops run in. We have seen it many times at this club.
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If so, then they are ripping off and disrespecting the fans who have paid their hard earned to witness 100% effort, even if that 100% effort proves to be futile after 90 minutes.
 
Yan89 said:
Not immune, but take Frankie's winning streak of dead rubbers out, and there's light and day difference. I don't think many on here in the period leading up to the summer window were anything but content with Lowe, and the feeling of optimism developed substantially during the close-season too with some good noise coming out of the club around it's transfer policy. Lowe did that FTF episode which gave us all a bit of insight, and I think Ridsdale did one too. We had the early bird ticket pricing, and the trip to Spain in pre-season where social media seemed to explode for a weekend with Nobbers on Tour. We got rid of the swathes of shite we'd carried for yonks, and even paid up people like Bayliss who surely weren't any good for the dressing room. It felt fresh and optimistic around the place, on here & at the grounds too.

I look back to the first 3 games - Wigan - sold out away day, Hull at home where we battered them for 90 mins and Huddersfield in the cup where we won 4-1 away from home, and think if we'd have nicked a 0-1 at Wigan and put a couple of those chances away against Hull, we'd have been flying by now. The football, even yesterday, has been good for large parts of the games - it's the creativity and the finishing that's been lacking. This was an area the manager made damn clear he needed strengthening. He's been clear he wanted Archer, was after Andre Gray & nearly had him with us too, and I think Nahki Wells was in discussion but there was a real outcry on here over that too.

I know there's many on here who think we're too laboured, and our build-up too slow/sideways/backwards, but football is a game of fine margins, and I'm absolutely gutted today that the first 10 games have gone this way. It's cliche to say you can pick out a scuffed shot here, or a poor touch there, and blame a whole result on it, but we really have had moments in at least 6 of the 10 games where we should've won them. We gave a good second half account of ourselves against Wolves in the cup too, and Sheff U are 5 points clear of 3rd and 8 points clear of 7th already but we more than matched them for most of yesterday's game. It's not the 'attacking' brand of football that we were promised, and I'm sure Lowe is man enough to admit that he got that a bit wrong, but it's literally 6 weeks since we all believed we'd have a good go this year - we might've been let down a bit by Lowe's decisions, or by ITKs on here passing on duff (unbeknownst to them obviously) info, but the buck surely stops with the ownership and their lack of investment in key areas of the playing side doesn't it?

I mean I know it's been done to death, but what possesses someone with a controlling interest in a football club that they would fail to sign a single specialist RWB prior to the window closing? Lowe wouldn't sign knobheads, which could be Christie or even Norton Cuffey, but he did have Ethan Laird right there with pen in hand before Laird opted last minute for QPR, then all of a sudden, the resources tied up in the potential of that deal have vanished?

I think we take the International Break, hope to god Parrott and Browne both score whilst away with Ireland, and give Lowe the chance to 'go again' against Sunderland before we start baying for blood. To be fair, if the guillotine falls on his head, those same idle twats that gave him the job will still be in charge of who gets it next.. and how much money they allow them to spend in Jan.
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Agreed.
It was called FrankieBall for a reason, - a lot of it was Hoof & Hope.
 
Jack Daniels said:
If so, then they are ripping off and disrespecting the fans who have paid their hard earned to witness 100% effort, even if that 100% effort proves to be futile after 90 minutes.
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Of course they are, it’s why I said a few times it’s a 46 game season not until you reach 50 points. I even emailed PR saying it and that it has become our club culture, he agreed!
 
Joanpne said:
Of course they are, it’s why I said a few times it’s a 46 game season not until you reach 50 points. I even emailed PR saying it and that it has become our club culture, he agreed!
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How many fans are in email conversation with PR 😂 I wonder if it's really him and not some troll pretending to be him. 10/10 if it is 😂
 
Durutti said:
They did because they weren't really troubled. It's easy for the opposition to defend against us. We will be very hard to break down every game the way we are set up, my point is that it just won't lead to goals. When we signed Lowe were we promised the most defensive manager in our recent history? In every single way, that's we have ended up with.

Everyone clinging to this idea that 'the goals will start to come' isn't looking properly at this system. It's got 0-0 written over every game barring errors from either side/something miraculous. That's not how you set up to win games if you are a decent manager.
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Against Burnley especially in the 2nd half we had 8 and 9 outfield players behind the ball and in the final 3rd of the pitch, no wonder Burnley could not break us down. The last 3rd of the pitch was more congested than the M6 on a August Bank Holiday Monday, we made next to no effort to get forward and score a winner.
The not conceding goals could only last so long, every team, defenders make defensive mistakes and these get punished, we made two yesterday and cost us two goals.
Even though we played the better football before the 1st goal we did not look like scoring, Once Sheffield United took the lead it was game over we looked clueless on how to get back into the game.
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noelpne said:
The best managers more often than not have a trusted team that Comes-with-the-#1-Man, that they've built-up over time.

It makes me wonder whether "The Riddler"- Yet Again -did this appointment On-the-Cheap, and just took RL instead of the Whole Package ????
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On paper he would have been a good choice ( getting two team promoted), but obviously he’s young and he lacks from having loads of experience. Apparently they only gained promotion with Bury because they had a very big budget in that league at the time.


While he was with us he wouldn’t budge from playing 352 (when things would not be going our way or found out by other teams).


Less said about the Riddler the better to be honest. Little story about him from his time down here. He sold Bolasie for a low sum to be rumoured of £25K
 
Deepdale roar said:
I was trying to think back to such a miserable start to a season at Deepdale that I have witnessed since 1975/76 . Even in relegation seasons and the like seemed to usually start with a few wins and goals for some early false optimism! I noticed someone mentioned the poor start in 2005/06 under Davies which I remember being difficult so I looked it up.

We failed to win in our first 8 League games at Deepdale with 6 draws and 2 defeats. We only scored 3 goals in those 8 games and conceded 7. After we won our first home game against Hull on 1st November, we went on to win 11 of the 15 remaining home games and drew the other 4. That team had a superb defence conceding only 30 all season and although the attack was not prolific we were capable of getting wins and went on to the Play Off semis against Leeds.

That said Ryan Lowe is not even close to having even 10% of the coaching ability and the win at all costs mentality of Billy Davies.
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Also I don't think this group of players have the same resilience and togetherness of that team.
 
andy_pne77 said:
This possession based football is boring, bring back a Billy Davies style 442 with wingers at least it gets you on the edge of your seat. We always used to have that underdog mentality at Deepdale and rough these big teams up a bit. Now it's too nicey nicey. You can't match these teams when we don't have the players. We have to do it a different way.
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I'll ask again....... who is your front 2 in that system ?
 
Those backing Lowe 100% and arguing that he should leave for elsewhere should remember he was openly justifying the lack of transfer business and asking for no negativity towards the board also.

While he's doing his best with what he's got he's made his bed.
 
He hasn't been backed that's true .

However he insists on playing 5 at the back,
He can't pick a team that involves Fernandez and Brady ,
He insists on playing parrot and riis despite their inability to form a partnership,
We seem to go down the wing too often and play in crosses despite never getting on the end of them.
Our build up play in general is crap .

These are thing that he is at least partly responsible far .
 
Hetfield said:
He hasn't been backed that's true .

However he insists on playing 5 at the back,
He can't pick a team that involves Fernandez and Brady ,
He insists on playing parrot and riis despite their inability to form a partnership,
We seem to go down the wing too often and play in crosses despite never getting on the end of them.
Our build up play in general is crap .

These are thing that he is at least partly responsible far .
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Yesterday we ve never seen Storey so far forward, and hughes going forward and both wing backs well forward...so it wasn't 5 at the back (it was against Clarets)
F & B together worth a try but Fendandez hasnt been able to complete 90 mins yet.
Maguire and Evans it is then
We cant go down the middle cos our CF cant control a ball
until we go behind our build up play is generally entertaining.... just nobody capable of finishing it off...... which we knew back in July"
 
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