15th-18th sounds about right to me.I still expect us to finish 18th thereabouts
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Or Ridsdale had blown all the budget on a goalie, but didn't have the heart to tell Lowe as he kept lining up all these players we could never afford.
Pretty sure I was one of, if not the first person/people to suggest that over the Summer
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We are getting what we deserve a club & manager that keeps players like Maguire & Evans who should have been shipped out to league one and replaced but worse they are starting games even a whole 90min???
And we wonder why we can't score??? Every fan can see the problem but Ryan Low and the PNE board it seems can't
And before anyone says Ryan Lowe isn't to blame it's 100% the club whilst I wouldn't disagree I would remind you
of what Lowe said when he released 13 players..
"I just feel that for us as a football club now, to stamp our authority down of changing the culture of Preston North End, it'd been too nice
To be successful you have to be ruthless,
I don't see it sorry . Ruthless is to get rid of your useless league one players nice is to keep them We have a big problem when your manager gets rid of championship players like Sinclair & Barkhuizen and keeps league 1 players Maguire & Evans because the better players don't fit into his system of play..
We had all hoped that Ryan Lowe was the one who would be ruthless who would change the culture of Preston North End, But the fact is he isn't Nothing has changed if anything we are going backwards that is why the honeymoon period is over for him so soon We have had years of this and no surprise the fans are walking out of games early
If you want to point finger of blame at the club then get it right it's not they failed to back him but rather they chose him to be our manager in first place
The only credit I can give Ryan Lowe is He has a great defensive set up team..And he did an incredible job in getting the fans back on board it's all down to him we sold record season ticket sales....but sadly we quickly realized it's all sales pater but no end product
My message to lour club is you now need to show some ambition you have record crowds watching the worst football seen at deepdale for years You have the crowds back that is why you need to act this season you have an opportunity that may never come around again.
An ambitious club would sack lowe replace him with a Chris Wilder and get your cheque book out..
But sadly we all know that is never going to happen (you can't even find money to fix the roof & even worse you pathetically tell the fans) so keep Lowe & Evan & Maguire so you don't have to pay them off fine.you keep to what your doing.... but don't expect those fans who have turned up this season to be back for a long long while ..until they see ...
A club and a manager who will be ruthless who will actually change the culture of Preston North End,
And we wonder why we can't score??? Every fan can see the problem but Ryan Low and the PNE board it seems can't
And before anyone says Ryan Lowe isn't to blame it's 100% the club whilst I wouldn't disagree I would remind you
of what Lowe said when he released 13 players..
"I just feel that for us as a football club now, to stamp our authority down of changing the culture of Preston North End, it'd been too nice
To be successful you have to be ruthless,
I don't see it sorry . Ruthless is to get rid of your useless league one players nice is to keep them We have a big problem when your manager gets rid of championship players like Sinclair & Barkhuizen and keeps league 1 players Maguire & Evans because the better players don't fit into his system of play..
We had all hoped that Ryan Lowe was the one who would be ruthless who would change the culture of Preston North End, But the fact is he isn't Nothing has changed if anything we are going backwards that is why the honeymoon period is over for him so soon We have had years of this and no surprise the fans are walking out of games early
If you want to point finger of blame at the club then get it right it's not they failed to back him but rather they chose him to be our manager in first place
The only credit I can give Ryan Lowe is He has a great defensive set up team..And he did an incredible job in getting the fans back on board it's all down to him we sold record season ticket sales....but sadly we quickly realized it's all sales pater but no end product
My message to lour club is you now need to show some ambition you have record crowds watching the worst football seen at deepdale for years You have the crowds back that is why you need to act this season you have an opportunity that may never come around again.
An ambitious club would sack lowe replace him with a Chris Wilder and get your cheque book out..
But sadly we all know that is never going to happen (you can't even find money to fix the roof & even worse you pathetically tell the fans) so keep Lowe & Evan & Maguire so you don't have to pay them off fine.you keep to what your doing.... but don't expect those fans who have turned up this season to be back for a long long while ..until they see ...
A club and a manager who will be ruthless who will actually change the culture of Preston North End,
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its all opinions and what the fans think of what they are seeing, Saturday was a shambles there is no getting around that and so was Bristol but prior to that we beat Norwich who were top of the league and West Brom before that who even though are not doing well still have players who are incredibly talented. From what we have seen so far this season, the defence has looked fantastic, Midfield has had on and off days and the attack has left a lot to be desired but i don't many any other managers at this level could do a better job with this squad. We saw the back end of a lot of experienced players last season who fair enough are probably finished at this level but could still create something to win a game but then when Hemmings decides that he is only going to fork out for a keeper and rely on frees and loans it becomes completely out of Lowes hands. You can think what you want but this is the reality now until January when we might be able to get a prolific striker and strengthen that right hand side.Surely this is a joke?
'Fantastic job' - we've just had 0 shots on target at home and we've scored 8 goals all season in the league. Turgid stuff at times.
I admit Lowe hasn't been backed and the lack of a wing back/striker is completely negligent on PR/CH's behalf but to say Lowe is doing a fantastic job is crazy talk.
We went 1-0 down on Saturday and he sat on his hands. He didn't get up at all and watching him compared to AN is like chalk and cheese. Even when Stoke were 2 up, AN was demanding and shouting instructions across to his team. I'm absolutely not AN's biggest fan (the way he downed tools at the end of his tenure here was a joke) but he's 10 times the manager than that Prada wearing fist bumping gobshite is we have now.
I honestly hope Lowe comes good and sacking another manager because of Ridsdale's/Hemmings incompetence isn't the way to go (even though PR would love that for his ego) but he needs to show he's a good coach because in the last 12 months, I've seen barely any improvement in any of our players at all.
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its just something to do on a Saturday or midweek night i suppose.We are getting what we deserve a club & manager that keeps players like Maguire & Evans who should have been shipped out to league one and replaced but worse they are starting games even a whole 90min???
And we wonder why we can't score??? Every fan can see the problem but Ryan Low and the PNE board it seems can't
And before anyone says Ryan Lowe isn't to blame it's 100% the club whilst I wouldn't disagree I would remind you
of what Lowe said when he released 13 players..
"I just feel that for us as a football club now, to stamp our authority down of changing the culture of Preston North End, it'd been too nice
To be successful you have to be ruthless,
I don't see it sorry . Ruthless is to get rid of your useless league one players nice is to keep them We have a big problem when your manager gets rid of championship players like Sinclair & Barkhuizen and keeps league 1 players Maguire & Evans because the better players don't fit into his system of play..
We had all hoped that Ryan Lowe was the one who would be ruthless who would change the culture of Preston North End, But the fact is he isn't Nothing has changed if anything we are going backwards that is why the honeymoon period is over for him so soon We have had years of this and no surprise the fans are walking out of games early
If you want to point finger of blame at the club then get it right it's not they failed to back him but rather they chose him to be our manager in first place
The only credit I can give Ryan Lowe is He has a great defensive set up team..And he did an incredible job in getting the fans back on board it's all down to him we sold record season ticket sales....but sadly we quickly realized it's all sales pater but no end product
My message to lour club is you now need to show some ambition you have record crowds watching the worst football seen at deepdale for years You have the crowds back that is why you need to act this season you have an opportunity that may never come around again.
An ambitious club would sack lowe replace him with a Chris Wilder and get your cheque book out..
But sadly we all know that is never going to happen (you can't even find money to fix the roof & even worse you pathetically tell the fans) so keep Lowe & Evan & Maguire so you don't have to pay them off fine.you keep to what your doing.... but don't expect those fans who have turned up this season to be back for a long long while ..until they see ...
A club and a manager who will be ruthless who will actually change the culture of Preston North End,
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Lowe has a 41% win rate over his managerial career which means he loses well over half of his matches, this equates to wrong end of the table 🙄😒🤔
That is not how maths works. Draws exist.
Lowe can only play with wingback, well you pedantic scouser twat we don't have many yet still you persist you tactical pygmy, you had to change to 4 at the back against Sheffield Utd last season when we had a man sent off, from 2 down we nearly won.
Lowe is a one trick pony who has conned, sorry fooled the gullible with his cheeky banter and fist pumps, well fuck off you foolman.
Lowe is a one trick pony who has conned, sorry fooled the gullible with his cheeky banter and fist pumps, well fuck off you foolman.
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Lowe has a 41% win rate over his managerial career which means he loses well over half of his matches, this equates to wrong end of the table 🙄😒🤔
Don't think you understand football. There isn't just a win or lose option there is a draw option as well.
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Fernandez and Riis.
Good goal scorer but he isn't the type of player to get the ball and run at players. He likes to run onto through balls instead.
Even so one/two players out of a squad of 22 is pretty shocking especially since one is left wing back.
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I think some people have rose tinted specs on when it comes to Neil. You are forgetting just how tedious he was towards the end. We all know lost interest.
Now history looks to be repeating itself.
If I was the owner of a football club who hires, on the face of it, competent managers. Indeed, many (if not all) show flickers of potential in fits and starts. But then, time and time again, it all fizzles out. I'd be properly curious why it keeps on happening to my club.
(I know the answer BTW. We all do. I'm just bewildered why the owners don't.)
Spot on.
If we lose on Tuesday and on Saturday fans are saying it will get toxic and let's be honest it will. Fans will be calling for Lowe's head and based on recent results you can see their point.
But will that solve the issue at the club. Not a chance. Fans are taking out their frustration on the wrong person. If we lose on Saturday and fans aren't singing 'we want Peter out' or 'we want Craig out' then unfortunately they are part of the problem and seem accepting of the owners and Peter.
GET THESE FUCKERS OUT OF OUR CLUB.
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Good goal scorer but he isn't the type of player to get the ball and run at players. He likes to run onto through balls instead.
Even so one/two players out of a squad of 22 is pretty shocking especially since one is left wing back.
He'll have a run at players, but he's not going to dazzle with footwork, more like knock it past and try and out race, or one sharp turn and have a shot.
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Sinclair's legs had gone, not a Championship player any more. Barkhausin I was a big fan of at one point but after he got covid never seemed to recover and also seemed like he wanted a change.We have a big problem when your manager gets rid of championship players like Sinclair & Barkhuizen
A lot of players were let go and I would say correctly so. Can't think of any I would have kept.
We brought in Woodman, Brady, Woodburn + Parrott and Fernandez on loan. Woodman and Fernandez have done very well. Brady has had some good games. Parrott looked good initially but had gone off the boil before he got injured. Woodburn yet to show anything. So that's a score of about 2.5 out of 5 on the signings.
Parrott easy to complain about with the benefit of hindsight. Some say his record prior to signing wasn't stellar, well neither was Archer's. If either had a stellar record they would have gone straight to their parent club's squad instead of out on loan. I think most on here were happy when Parrott signed, just hasn't worked out.
We definitely need a few more players of a decent calibre but if Hemmings are putting in 12m a year I'd be surprised if they'd put any more in. It would likely need another 4m a year in wages plus transfer fees.
It's hardly surprising if you watch the pre-match crossing and shooting warmup exercise. It's basically 10 v the keeper and the keeper wins. Hardly ever get a shot on target let alone score!Two goals in 12 hours of play at deepdale
No more to add .
It's embarrassing.
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Or Ridsdale had blown all the budget on a goalie, but didn't have the heart to tell Lowe as he kept lining up all these players we could never afford.
Pretty sure I was one of, if not the first person/people to suggest that over the Summer
Found it. July 3rd.
I would be happy with that as things stand ….I still expect us to finish 18th thereabouts
I can’t think of 3 teams that are going to finish below us though..
If the players are not looking at the manager during the game then that would appear he has lost them. Also not doing himself paying Browne at RWB.
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Alvaro but admittedly he’s not our player .But archer did score in our current set up. I don’t really get your point. You say lowe’s record is bad without archer. Well conte’s record would be pretty bad without harry kane and son.
If you take your best sources of goals away you are going to struggle. Now I’m not saying we had a chance to get archer. But we have literally no one who can get on the ball and take people on. People wonder why our play is so slow. We must have the slowest squad in the league.
Someone like Robinson - not a natural scorer but at least he would excite fans. Name me one player in this team who can get the ball and run at players. I’ll start…. No one.
Yea but there used to be "winning draws" 🙂Don't think you understand football. There isn't just a win or lose option there is a draw option as well.
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Yeah, I had the same feeling:
Yeah, I think that's where the budget went.I agree with you on the need for a solid LWB ahead of Brady, but didn’t we just sign our first-choice goalkeeper before the back up?