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buckshawwhite said:
Where do I start with this? You call Lowe a sub standard gobshite yet hope he doesnt get the sack. Make your mind up. No improvement in any of our players? You are seriously suggesting that the likes of Storey & Lindsay havent improved beyond recognition ?
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I think Lowe is a gobshite, yes. Billy Davies was also a gobshite but he was one of the best managers I've seen in my time watching PNE. I couldn't really care less what they say as long as they back it up. Davies did, Lowe, for me hasn't yet. I am happy to be proven wrong.

I don't want him to get the sack because it just follows the same process as we've seen many a time. Manager doesn't get backed, form dips, manager gets sacked, Riddler gets his pay and runs off into the sunset without having to take any responsibility and is allowed to say 'the manager just wasn't working!'. Do I think Lowe is a good Championship Manager? No. But we can't have managers continually take the fall for the incompetence of those above.

Lindsay has, I agree. I don't buy into the Storey shout, no. Watch him without LL next to him. He was all over the place against Brizzle, was shocking on Saturday and gave the ball away basically every time he had it last night. I think Lindsay's presence has helped Storey massively.
 
Warton PNE said:


Tough watch this. Seems to have lost all motivation already. Absolutely no need to have a pop at the question - we were awful first 45.

I'm not Lowe's biggest fan (I think he's tactically naive and seems to be out of his depth at times) but Ridsdale and Hemmings have ruined a managers passion yet again in less than a year. Compare that interview to his first couple of months.

Please can these charlatans get out of this football club.
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I don't think he sounds de-motivated - sounds about right for where we are to me, pleased to have won last night, but hardly bouncing off the walls based on the manner of the win on the back of our 2 previous performances.

Comes across as a bit weary, but we've had 6 Saturday/Tuesday games in a row, with a lot of travel involved (well done to the club for scheduling that Bristol City game in there) - so maybe he really is just tired.

He's also a bit prickly about the implied criticism of that first half - but I think it's a good thing criticism still affects him this way, it will hopefully help him strive to make us better.
 
Warton PNE said:
Lindsay has, I agree. I don't buy into the Storey shout, no. Watch him without LL next to him. He was all over the place against Brizzle, was shocking on Saturday and gave the ball away basically every time he had it last night. I think Lindsay's presence has helped Storey massively.
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I don’t want to be that guy, but 77.8% pass completion last night. Second highest of any of the back five behind Greg.
 
Storey seems the type of player who needs to be told what to do by a vocal partner. Hence why he performs well with Lindsay, Greg, Davies, but not Bambo
 
Warton PNE said:
I think Lowe is a gobshite, yes. Billy Davies was also a gobshite but he was one of the best managers I've seen in my time watching PNE. I couldn't really care less what they say as long as they back it up. Davies did, Lowe, for me hasn't yet. I am happy to be proven wrong.

I don't want him to get the sack because it just follows the same process as we've seen many a time. Manager doesn't get backed, form dips, manager gets sacked, Riddler gets his pay and runs off into the sunset without having to take any responsibility and is allowed to say 'the manager just wasn't working!'. Do I think Lowe is a good Championship Manager? No. But we can't have managers continually take the fall for the incompetence of those above.

Lindsay has, I agree. I don't buy into the Storey shout, no. Watch him without LL next to him. He was all over the place against Brizzle, was shocking on Saturday and gave the ball away basically every time he had it last night. I think Lindsay's presence has helped Storey massively.
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Lowe has nowhere near the quality of squad that King Billy inherited from the squad that Craig Brown built for him (Probably the best squad I've seen in all my time supporting PNE). Imagine if Lowe had some of the attacking talent of Nugent, Cresswell, Ormerod etc at his disposal? This is where we are sadly lacking at the moment & eventhough I didnt join in the clamour for Robbo at the time. On reflection he would have been a massive addition to this squad. I 100% agree with you that we dont want to see the repeating cycle of a manager kopping it for the lack of ambition from above. I firmly believe that we cannot cast judgement on Lowe's abilities as a Championship manager when his hands are so tied. As others have pointed out, Storey didnt have as bad a game as perhaps you thought last night
 
OB1 said:
Storey seems the type of player who needs to be told what to do by a vocal partner. Hence why he performs well with Lindsay, Greg, Davies, but not Bambo
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I played a few games alongside a Millwall hooligan (who had the scars to prove it).

Took me under his wing. I quite enjoyed it until I broke my leg trying to emulate him.

Nobody remembered asking him to play, he went up for set pieces even though he was a short arse and he told us all what to do.

Nutty Rich he was called, behind his back obvs.
 
Whilt Ryan Lowe doesn't seem himself he was right to focus on the lads with no fist pump last night.

Also despite what he's saying publicly its not been great to watch recently which i think hes acknowledging.

All focus up the M55 now for what is the most important game of the season so far.
 
justinr73 said:
I played a few games alongside a Millwall hooligan (who had the scars to prove it).

Took me under his wing. I quite enjoyed it until I broke my leg trying to emulate him.

Nobody remembered asking him to play, he went up for set pieces even though he was a short arse and he told us all what to do.

Nutty Rich he was called, behind his back obvs.
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So did you performances improve?!
 
Warton PNE said:


Tough watch this. Seems to have lost all motivation already. Absolutely no need to have a pop at the question - we were awful first 45.

I'm not Lowe's biggest fan (I think he's tactically naive and seems to be out of his depth at times) but Ridsdale and Hemmings have ruined a managers passion yet again in less than a year. Compare that interview to his first couple of months.

Please can these charlatans get out of this football club.
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That is a tough watch. I wouldn’t be suprised if there’s a bit of humble pie being eaten by him too mind.. maybe Whiteman or someone stood up a half time and bollocked the lads, doing his job for him, and that’s why he didn’t chuck a fist pump in at the end.

Either way, looks a broken man already.
 
Yan89 said:
That is a tough watch. I wouldn’t be suprised if there’s a bit of humble pie being eaten by him too mind.. maybe Whiteman or someone stood up a half time and bollocked the lads, doing his job for him, and that’s why he didn’t chuck a fist pump in at the end.

Either way, looks a broken man already.
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Probably already been informed that Januarys Budget is zero.
 
I just hope we get a result on Saturday and then a bit of pressure comes off him. The aim must be in or around the top 6 come the World Cup break and then recharge the batteries. Hopefully Lowe and his recruitment team (not The Riddler) look at the rest of the championship games happening for players.
 
KeithLard said:
Another away win and clean sheet. The quality really doesn’t matter, there is no consistency in this league and if we could perform better at home then we will be up there.

I’m still apathetic and want the owners out, but you have to admit Lowe is doing a good job. Perhaps we are expecting too much sometimes.
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Agreed. I don't like the style of football at all but maybe it's all that works with this set of players. I think he's made a lot of mistakes this season but don't think overall it can be said he has done a good job. Asking as we keep chucking in the occasional win I don't know what more can be asked of him than that.

I am totally fine with Luton and Huddersfield 1-0 snooze fests away and slightly more attacking stuff at home. If that's the approach, fair enough.

Having watched PNE for a long time, Lowe is doing some good positive stuff in some respects. Under Craig Brown, the players lacked fitness, under Ferguson they lacked organisation, etc. I would say he gets them organised and up for a battle, even if it's a tough watch.
 
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