Lowe's Progress

[Staffordwhite]

Lowe talks about us 'making progress' and says we need to 'keep building'. 🤔

He also says we're heading 'in the right direction'. Really?

Some stats from the season compared to the previous one (when we had Frankie in charge for half of it):

Fewer points (63/64)
Fewer goals (45/52)
More goals against (56/59)
More defeats (17/14)
Worse goal diff (-14/-4)

We scored just 20 goals at Deepdale in 23 matches.

Only relegated Wigan (17) and relegated FGR (15) scored fewer at home in the entire EFL. It's absolutely pitiful.

He talks in the media like we've 'just fallen short' but we were six points (and a 27-goal swing) away from the play-offs.

It wasn't close; we didn't finish 7th - we were 12th.

When we did somehow get a glimpse, we folded like a pack of cards as soon as we played anyone half-decent (or more tactically astute).

(For example, he made a big thing about Sunderland 'paying us (ie him) a compliment' by matching us up at half time... Yep, and they duly stuffed us in the second half you numpty!😕)

Look, we know it's hard and changing the manager is just rearranging the deckchairs if Ridsdale is still stinking the place out.

But if this 'me-me-me (but it ain't my fault)' Billy Bullshitter left tomorrow - like he would if he were to get a serious offer - I wouldn't shed any tears.

Either way, he's gone by Christmas.

 

[Thracia]

The stats used by Lowe to demonstrate "progress" are straight out of the Ridsdale school of massaging the numbers and spinning the facts.

On every objective measure, we've done worse than we did last season, which was itself so shit we sacked Frankie halfway through.

 

[Mr.T]

I’m still convinced he won’t be here by the first game of next season. This summer will be a shit show and he will more than likely walk.

 

[Bodney Rewes]

Also worth noting that our goal difference would've been different (possibly even worse) had it not been for that statistically anomalous clean sheet run at the start of the season

 

[Bodney Rewes]

Also since the game we conceded our first goal this season, only Blackpool and QPR have conceded more

 

[Joanpne]

I believe he does want to do a decent job very much so. I also think he is being held back by owners who don’t care one stuff about the club it’s just a weight around their neck they want rid of. He said about taking us on a journey (like we haven’t heard all that before…………sigh), but the journey is more likely going in the wrong direction. I don’t blame RL entirely at all, though the number of goals being scored for us at Deepdale is disgraceful especially as he is an ex striker.

We had a decent stadium that the Baxi era and the shareholders bought between them, got a reasonable squad together and a decent manager in David Moyes, We had the Billy Davies era that was the best in decades. Trevor buys us out, installs his mates son as manager and one idiot after the next as chairmen or advisor. The stadium is totally run into the ground, we have no more than about 2-3 decent players, and every Manager deprived of a decent squad. We haven’t rebuilt anything, so RL stating we have to continue rebuilding is a bloody joke, it’s been more a demolition job. In truth RL would run like hell to the first club that wanted him and I wouldn't blame him. The next managerial appointment will be taken on the grounds of cost, just like the players we are likely to get for next season. Cheers Hemmings family, you and your Advisor, have absolutely done a job on us. Oh and before anyone mentions Wembley, who owned us when we got relegated in the first place?

 

[Derbydays]

Championship this season ,in my view, has been poor Quality , perhaps weakest in the time since we came up. I honestly think it will not be much stronger next year ,regardless of who comes up, goes down or attempts to strengthen in the summer.
we have been so inconsistent and obviously lack genuine quality throughout the squad , the budget we have explain the lack of quality but the inconsistency seems to be a lack of motivation and belief , Ryan Lowe , in my opinion ,is unable to inspire this current squad and has himself been very inconsistent with his comments throughout the season in his pressers.
I do not see him as being a natural leader ,who can inspire and has the trust and support of all around them, this summer is ,as we all know huge for PNE but for Ryan Lowe I think it is career defining, get it wrong the club ,eventually in a reduced form , will recover , but his own management options in the future will be restricted to lower level football league at best.

 

[Staffordwhite]

Championship this season ,in my view, has been poor Quality , perhaps weakest in the time since we came up. I honestly think it will not be much stronger next year ,regardless of who comes up, goes down or attempts to strengthen in the summer.

I think Ridsdale is banking on points deductions and clubs hitting financial trouble to see us scrape over the line.

Birmingham and Cardiff are in a mess and maybe even West Brom could be in the clag too (their finances are very murky).

On the pitch, Rotherham are about to lose their star player for free, QPR are looking dodgy and Huddersfield may well be down there too if Warnock packs in.

Strongly suspect we'll be in a dogfight, with a manager who's shown this season that he doesn't react well when things go wrong. 😕

 

[Bodney Rewes]

I think Ridsdale is banking on points deductions and clubs hitting financial trouble to see us scrape over the line.

Birmingham and Cardiff are in a mess and maybe even West Brom could be in the clag too (their finances are very murky).

On the pitch, Rotherham are about to lose their star player for free, QPR are looking dodgy and Huddersfield may well be down there too if Warnock packs in.

Strongly suspect we'll be in a dogfight, with a manager who's shown this season that he doesn't react well when things go wrong. 😕

Birmingham have got new owners now though don't they?

 

[Staffordwhite]

Birmingham have got new owners now though don't they?

Yep, but who knows how they will turn out?

 

[No Danger]

Also since the game we conceded our first goal this season, only Blackpool and QPR have conceded more

When we capitulate we really do cave in.
Over half of our goals conceded came in 8 specific games Blackpool (a) 4 , Millwall (h) 4, Norwich (h) 4, Middlesbrough (a) 4, Swansea (a) 4, Burnley (a) 3 Sheffield United (a) 4 and Sunderland (h) 3. A total of 30 goals.
To concede 4 in 6 separate games is very poor.

 

[Joanpne]

Birmingham have got new owners now though don't they?

Yes.

 

[lenny]

To the owners progress seems to be stay in mid table with a lower budget and a shit squad .I’m confident that’s not what the fans will class as progress . Will be very interesting to see how many of the 12 thousand renew.

 

[No Danger]

To the owners progress seems to be stay in mid table with a lower budget and a shit squad .I’m confident that’s not what the fans will class as progress . Will be very interesting to see how many of the 12 thousand renew.

What you describe there is stagnation and when that is allowed to happen a steepish decline often follows.

 

[Scannyuk]

It’s a stand off between Riddler and Lowe as to who pulls the trigger on this first.. Lowe wants the cash, Riddler won’t want to pay him, either way it’s a dysfunctional situation.

When your best player is the keeper (again!)
Players player has a career threatening injury
The young player of the year isn’t ours
Scholar of the year hasn’t played a game for us yet.
And the community champion is leaving the club…
Goal of the season is from a wing back..
Lowest number of home wins we’ve had and all other key totals down… yet at the start of the year he was ‘happy’ with the squad.

There’s lots for Mr Lowe to take accountability for there.

I’m still convinced he won’t be here by the first game of next season. This summer will be a shit show and he will more than likely walk.

 

[Tommmm12345]

Yep, but who knows how they will turn out?

Can't be as bad as Watford Can't they. I remember @Jack Daniels posting something from talk sport of Jim White chatting to one of the candidates I think ages ago.

 

[Bodney Rewes]

When we capitulate we really do cave in.
Over half of our goals conceded came in 8 specific games Blackpool (a) 4 , Millwall (h) 4, Norwich (h) 4, Middlesbrough (a) 4, Swansea (a) 4, Burnley (a) 3 Sheffield United (a) 4 and Sunderland (h) 3. A total of 30 goals.
To concede 4 in 6 separate games is very poor.

And we tend to concede more in the second half after the opposition has made their tactical changes

I bet there's only a handful of games where we make the first sub

 

[unconvinced]

I believe he does want to do a decent job very much so. I also think he is being held back by owners who don’t care one stuff about the club it’s just a weight around their neck they want rid of. He said about taking us on a journey (like we haven’t heard all that before…………sigh), but the journey is more likely going in the wrong direction. I don’t blame RL entirely at all, though the number of goals being scored for us at Deepdale is disgraceful especially as he is an ex striker.

We had a decent stadium that the Baxi era and the shareholders bought between them, got a reasonable squad together and a decent manager in David Moyes, We had the Billy Davies era that was the best in decades. Trevor buys us out, installs his mates son as manager and one idiot after the next as chairmen or advisor. The stadium is totally run into the ground, we have no more than about 2-3 decent players, and every Manager deprived of a decent squad. We haven’t rebuilt anything, so RL stating we have to continue rebuilding is a bloody joke, it’s been more a demolition job. In truth RL would run like hell to the first club that wanted him and I wouldn't blame him. The next managerial appointment will be taken on the grounds of cost, just like the players we are likely to get for next season. Cheers Hemmings family, you and your Advisor, have absolutely done a job on us. Oh and before anyone mentions Wembley, who owned us when we got relegated in the first place?

Blowing the playoff in 09 then losing McKenna and StLedger, replacing them with shumiwotsit and was it Neil fucking collins? That was the start of the rot proper.
It's never been right since.

 

[Regardless]

And we tend to concede more in the second half after the opposition has made their tactical changesView attachment 12514

I bet there's only a handful of games where we make the first sub

For context... that's 62% of goals in the second half (allocating the 3% in the 41-50 minute as 2% first half and 1% second - more than reasonable taking account of first half injury time)

Googling suggests that, on average, 56% of goals are scored in the second half of English League games. So we do seem weaker in the second half. Before confirming that, we should probably check whether we're also scoring more than in the second half. If we are scoring proportionately more, then you could argue we're not weaker.

 

[Bodney Rewes]

For context... that's 62% of goals in the second half (allocating the 3% in the 41-50 minute as 2% first half and 1% second - more than reasonable taking account of first half injury time)

Googling suggests that, on average, 56% of goals are scored in the second half of English League games. So we do seem weaker in the second half. Before confirming that, we should probably check whether we're also scoring more than in the second half. If we are scoring proportionately more, then you could argue we're not weaker.

This is the one for goals scored: