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White123 said:
There's only a meltdown from people like yourself.
If we don't bring in one it's not the end of the world. No one knows how this new guy is going to do - he could be excellent or he could be useless.
What I do know is Pep obviously rates him very highly as he has let him train with the first team and he played and scored against a strong Bayern Munich side.
I could be wrong as I am not Captain Hindsight I can't see in the future but I think this guy could do the business for us.
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I am not in meltdown I am just stating what I think may happen if we don't get someone of Jeromes experiance to help in the stricker role. I am just saying what many are thinking & nothing to do with the quality of Nmecha who I am in no doubt will be a top player in 3 or 4 years time.
AN said himself he wanted someone with experiance to help the forwards out. We have had plenty of time since Hugill left to have addressed the problem.
I take it you will be ok if we don't make the top six come May Mr white ?
 
bowlandwhites said:
I am not in meltdown I am just stating what I think may happen if we don't get someone of Jeromes experiance to help in the stricker role. I am just saying what many are thinking & nothing to do with the quality of Nmecha who I am in no doubt will be a top player in 3 or 4 years time.
AN said himself he wanted someone with experiance to help the forwards out. We have had plenty of time since Hugill left to have addressed the problem.
I take it you will be ok if we don't make the top six come May Mr white ?
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As AN said himself it is not that easy to just go out and buy an experienced championship goal scorer.
Waghorn went for 5 million - he's not even that good. Bamford went for 10 million - technically he is very good but scored 12 last season. I mean Hugil went for 10 mil and he's not really experienced at this level. I could go on...
We may get Jerome we may not - he's experienced but is past his prime. His best days are behind him as proven last season. His goal scoring record wasn't brilliant.
The issue with strikers is that they have the highest price tag. The other issue is that our midfield 3 aren't creating enough. We could have Aguero in this team but it wouldn't make a difference as we aren't creating that many chances.
If we don't make the top 6 then shit happens. There will be other clubs who don't make the top six and will suffer a lot financially because of it. We won't.
 
White123 said:
As AN said himself it is not that easy to just go out and buy an experienced championship goal scorer.
Waghorn went for 5 million - he's not even that good. Bamford went for 10 million - technically he is very good but scored 12 last season. I mean Hugil went for 10 mil and he's not really experienced at this level. I could go on...
We may get Jerome we may not - he's experienced but is past his prime. His best days are behind him as proven last season. His goal scoring record wasn't brilliant.
The issue with strikers is that they have the highest price tag. The other issue is that our midfield 3 aren't creating enough. We could have Aguero in this team but it wouldn't make a difference as we aren't creating that many chances.
If we don't make the top 6 then shit happens. There will be other clubs who don't make the top six and will suffer a lot financially because of it. We won't.
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Right but folks are asking why we can't get better than Waghorn, Bamford or Hugill for a million or two . . . . we've had enough time to find someone since Hugill left 🙂
 
bowlandwhites said:
I am not in meltdown I am just stating what I think may happen if we don't get someone of Jeromes experiance to help in the stricker role. I am just saying what many are thinking & nothing to do with the quality of Nmecha who I am in no doubt will be a top player in 3 or 4 years time.
AN said himself he wanted someone with experiance to help the forwards out. We have had plenty of time since Hugill left to have addressed the problem.
I take it you will be ok if we don't make the top six come May Mr white ?
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I agree, to an extent, that bringing in a striker with more of a physical presence than what we currently have would be useful, especially in light of recent injuries. However, experience doesn't guarantee quality. I'm genuinely not sure Jerome is the answer to our problems, even relatively cheap on loan.

Being blunt, I think you're going to be disappointed come the close of the loan window if you're expecting us to loan a player with the reputation of Jerome. I'd expect the worst, and hope for...well, slightly better. I certainly won't be in meltdown if we don't finish in the top 6. For a start I don't expect us to, heavy investment or not.
 
Doc Brown said:
I agree, to an extent, that bringing in a striker with more of a physical presence than what we currently have would be useful, especially in light of recent injuries. However, experience doesn't guarantee quality. I'm genuinely not sure Jerome is the answer to our problems, even relatively cheap on loan.

Being blunt, I think you're going to be disappointed come the close of the loan window if you're expecting us to loan a player with the reputation of Jerome. I'd expect the worst, and hope for...well, slightly better. I certainly won't be in meltdown if we don't finish in the top 6. For a start I don't expect us to, heavy investment or not.
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I think we will be mid table at best we punched way above our level last season & it needed a lot more investment than TH is willing to put in.
 
White123 said:
As AN said himself it is not that easy to just go out and buy an experienced championship goal scorer.
Waghorn went for 5 million - he's not even that good. Bamford went for 10 million - technically he is very good but scored 12 last season. I mean Hugil went for 10 mil and he's not really experienced at this level. I could go on...
We may get Jerome we may not - he's experienced but is past his prime. His best days are behind him as proven last season. His goal scoring record wasn't brilliant.
The issue with strikers is that they have the highest price tag. The other issue is that our midfield 3 aren't creating enough. We could have Aguero in this team but it wouldn't make a difference as we aren't creating that many chances.
If we don't make the top 6 then shit happens. There will be other clubs who don't make the top six and will suffer a lot financially because of it. We won't.
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Bamford was 7million
 
bowlandwhites said:
I think we will be mid table at best we punched way above our level last season & it needed a lot more investment than TH is willing to put in.
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Well I can't wait until we prove you wrong. I think we may fall short of the play offs but expect a decent 7th/8th return again.
 
TB94 said:
OFFICIAL!

Arsenal talent Stephy Mavididi (20) has signed for Italian champions Juventus.

Another English talent going abroad, this time he can learn from the best in Cristiano Ronaldo.

Juventus have been tracking the youngster for three years.

hahahahaha - worst player I've seen at North End for years!
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We didn’t see enough of him to come to a fair conclusion as to his ability.

Rotherham fans thought Fisher was useless. And just how wrong were they?
 
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bowlandwhites said:
I am not in meltdown I am just stating what I think may happen if we don't get someone of Jeromes experiance to help in the stricker role. I am just saying what many are thinking & nothing to do with the quality of Nmecha who I am in no doubt will be a top player in 3 or 4 years time.
AN said himself he wanted someone with experiance to help the forwards out. We have had plenty of time since Hugill left to have addressed the problem.
I take it you will be ok if we don't make the top six come May Mr white ?
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Are you saying we will only make the top 6 if we sign Jerome?

I think generally most people will “be ok” if we don’t make the top 6 - reality is it’s a very competitive division and finances state that we shouldn’t be anywhere near the top 6, but we will keep “overachieving” because we have a very talented squad and a top coach.

Jerome or another ‘experienced’ striker might increase our chances of making the play offs but only slightly imo. The biggest factor will be keeping Maguire fit and firing I think.
 
Nishtar36 said:
Are you saying we will only make the top 6 if we sign Jerome?

I think generally most people will “be ok” if we don’t make the top 6 - reality is it’s a very competitive division and finances state that we shouldn’t be anywhere near the top 6, but we will keep “overachieving” because we have a very talented squad and a top coach.

Jerome or another ‘experienced’ striker might increase our chances of making the play offs but only slightly imo. The biggest factor will be keeping Maguire fit and firing I think.
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If we "have a very talented squad and a top coach", then how are we overachieving?

If you base it upon wages paid and attendances, then yes, we are, but if we are basing it upon the "on the matchday field" product, then are we really overachieving? Really?

People need to separate these differences to draw a clearer picture.
 
Jack Daniels said:
If we "have a very talented squad and a top coach", then how are we overachieving?

If you base it upon wages paid and attendances, then yes, we are, but if we are basing it upon the "on the matchday field" product, then are we really overachieving? Really?

People need to separate these differences to draw a clearer picture.
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Apologies, that was the point JD I was trying to make, hence I used the word overachieving with quotation marks.

People like Bowland tend to base things purely on monetary spend, when in reality we’ve put together a very competitive squad for very little money. The fact that figures get thrown about by posters on here and by the media gives the impression that little Preston have no right to be within touching distance of the top 6, when in reality we are a very dangerous side.

Saying that I would be “ok”, as Bowland put it, if we were to miss out on the top 6 because in truth I think any of around 12 teams could make it. I have money on us reaching the top 6.
 
Nishtar36 said:
Apologies, that was the point JD I was trying to make, hence I used the word overachieving with quotation marks.

People like Bowland tend to base things purely on monetary spend, when in reality we’ve put together a very competitive squad for very little money. The fact that figures get thrown about by posters on here and by the media gives the impression that little Preston have no right to be within touching distance of the top 6, when in reality we are a very dangerous side.

Saying that I would be “ok”, as Bowland put it, if we were to miss out on the top 6 because in truth I think any of around 12 teams could make it. I have money on us reaching the top 6.
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People like you often patronise the fuck out of people like bowland... Think you've made your point to him Nish enough times for us all to see what your position is...
But believe me youre a top pneonliner so is bowland.
 
California_PNE said:
People like you often patronise the fuck out of people like bowland... Think you've made your point to him Nish enough times for us all to see what your position is...
But believe me youre a top pneonliner so is bowland.
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Erm, I was involved, too! 😀😱😎
 
Nishtar36 said:
Apologies, that was the point JD I was trying to make, hence I used the word overachieving with quotation marks.

People like Bowland tend to base things purely on monetary spend, when in reality we’ve put together a very competitive squad for very little money. The fact that figures get thrown about by posters on here and by the media gives the impression that little Preston have no right to be within touching distance of the top 6, when in reality we are a very dangerous side.

Saying that I would be “ok”, as Bowland put it, if we were to miss out on the top 6 because in truth I think any of around 12 teams could make it. I have money on us reaching the top 6.
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Yeah, I tend to agree with you Nishtar. We are one of many but one with a genuine chance of going the 46 game distance whereas some of the 12 will inevitably only go around the 35 - 38 game distance.

Bring it on!
 
California_PNE said:
People like you often patronise the fuck out of people like bowland... Think you've made your point to him Nish enough times for us all to see what your position is...
But believe me youre a top pneonliner so is bowland.
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Your last sentence does exactly what you complained about in your first!
 
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