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Bloody hell, better watch what we say on here, it may come back to haunt us in 2025 etc etc etc🙄😱😉
I don't think it does at all - Lonnergan has been average at best. Every time he played for Preston he let 40 yard shots through his fingers, rarely claimed a corner, didn't command his area. The only thing he was good at was one on one's. Maxwell is currently a better keeper then Lonnergan ever was. Randolph cost 5 million. We aren't going to spend that so make do with what we have and Maxwell is very good. We aren't going to get a better permanent keeper and he has saved us a lot more points then cost us.
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There was bugger all wrong with the " theory " of Westley, you ( for once ) called it right and he was doing fine until the two full backs got injured and he went power mad and lost the plot big time 🙂 ...............
On a more sensible note.... There's bugger all wrong with Maxwell either unless you want to swop him for a far more agile keeper that stays rooted to his line and makes wonderous saves on occassion but does dam all to cement the defence......And the downside being that all the 12th man stuff that takes ( unnoticed ) pressure off the defence goes out the window..In fact you then invite quite a lot of it ( pressure ) and may well then be wishing you had someone who came off that bloody line now and again.......... Balancing act and fine margins....
I've watched the highlights 8 times too and the first I reckon he thought was going wide... The other 2 were no more saveable than the two we scored against them ...So their wonder keeper ( 20 grand a week ? ) buggered up aswell......
I think Maxwell could have done better for some of the goals, but he is still a cracking goalkeeper because of his all round game and his cross collecting is seriously underrated.
The defence have complete confidence in him which will be one of the reasons we have conceded so few goals and had so many clean sheets.
I try to stay away from blaming goalkeepers directly for goals conceded and that is the same for all 3 of Boro's goals, our defending was piss poor, Maxwell in his time with us has only made 1 mistake that I can recall and even Pickford made a mistake at home to Birmingham.
The defence have complete confidence in him which will be one of the reasons we have conceded so few goals and had so many clean sheets.
I try to stay away from blaming goalkeepers directly for goals conceded and that is the same for all 3 of Boro's goals, our defending was piss poor, Maxwell in his time with us has only made 1 mistake that I can recall and even Pickford made a mistake at home to Birmingham.
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Maxwell was absolutely shite yesterday. That is unquestionable.
What that means I've no idea. Poster who said their keeper was better than ours is correct re: Robinson strike first half which was an excellent save.
What that means I've no idea. Poster who said their keeper was better than ours is correct re: Robinson strike first half which was an excellent save.
He was correct but comparing our keeper to Middlesborough's makes no sense. Middlesbrough's keeper cost 5 million ours was a free transfer so you should expect their keeper to be better. We could wish to have a keeper like Randolph but we don't have 5 million to spend so have to make do with what we have and Maxwell has been excellent this season. And even though he was 'shite' yesterday I still don't blame him for any of the goals.
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Ooooooh Mr white he comes out snapping every time. I was making a comment on yesterdays game. He was shit. Let 3 in. I rate the lad check out my posts. Can do better is the basic message.
Don't worry about pound signs, don't fall into the same trap as all the other idiots who think chucking money at it works or we should go and support every other team in the championship, and a lot of them are way poorer than the north end!
The barrier of a solid defence went awol in the 2nd half which did not help maxwell one bit, it's easy as armchair experts to judge what he should or shouldn't have saved albeit two of the goals did appear to be within his grasp and ability ?
Of anyone's view I would be most intrigued to hear his own.
Of anyone's view I would be most intrigued to hear his own.
Snapping? I was actually agreeing with you Randolph is a better keeper. But then again that's what you get when you pay 5 million pounds on a keeper. I never said chucking money at it works - I agree it doesn't and I am pleased with the way hemmings runs things I just think people comparing Maxwell to their keeper is bizarre when they paid 5 million for him so should be better. Doesn't mean that always works out but this time that looks to be the case.
Also I presume you thought the whole defence had a shit game then?
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Topic 1 - Randolph
I absolutely despise unnecessary criticism of our players but on this occasion I will join in.
Firstly our attack makes opposing keepers look magnificent. Randolph made what looked like 2 top drawer saves and that is all. Al the other shots were bread and butter. Have you noticed our shot conversion rate or the number of comparable goals we have scored.
Maxwell would and has regularly saved shots like the first one still standing up and catching them. No one takes a blind but of notice because they look simple and routine. Randolph was protecting his near post (maxwell has the bottle not to do this) He was as a result slightly out of position. This resulted in what looks like a spectacular save with an unessary full stretch dive.
The second low shot at the post was decent bur really did he have less time to get there than Maxwell did when he caught a shot on the floor near the post I suggest not.
Topic 1 - Randolph
I absolutely despise unnecessary criticism of our players but on this occasion I will join in.
Firstly our attack makes opposing keepers look magnificent. Randolph made what looked like 2 top drawer saves and that is all. Al the other shots were bread and butter. Have you noticed our shot conversion rate or the number of comparable goals we have scored.
Maxwell would and has regularly saved shots like the first one still standing up and catching them. No one takes a blind but of notice because they look simple and routine. Randolph was protecting his near post (maxwell has the bottle not to do this) He was as a result slightly out of position. This resulted in what looks like a spectacular save with an unessary full stretch dive.
The second low shot at the post was decent bur really did he have less time to get there than Maxwell did when he caught a shot on the floor near the post I suggest not.
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Pickford & Johnston well to start with they are not our players and never have been.
Have you watched Pickford lately I have Everton are my team of choice for TV premiership viewing. I will again break my own rules about unnecessary criticism. Pickford is overweight and lacks mobility. His domination of his area and beyond is limited as is his distribution. He needs to get a grip quickly or risk missing the opportunity to achieve his potential. Some of what he does is borderline fake with exaggerated saves and movement. I do not fail to acknowledge his outstanding quality with close range shots between 4-6 yards out.
Johnston I have no real comment to make as to his progress simply because I have not seen enough as of late. I am however absolutely certain he has limited effect of the organisation of the defensive unit with the players in front of him.
Maxwell is mobile, dominant, flexible in playing style, a leader, a communicator and can deliver any type of distribution required. For those reading this who are ill informed - creative long balls will also be put on the heads of static opposing defenders to hive our lads a run and jump OR dropped in from height with no speed to allow our boys to get the jump on the second ball. Yesterday's game included our boys circling the scrum down around Hugil on a long ball ready for the second ball.
This is top class distribution way beyond the basic hit the striking on the chest every time. I am sure if you go to games regularly you will know maxwell can hit Hugil on the chest.
Pickford & Johnston well to start with they are not our players and never have been.
Have you watched Pickford lately I have Everton are my team of choice for TV premiership viewing. I will again break my own rules about unnecessary criticism. Pickford is overweight and lacks mobility. His domination of his area and beyond is limited as is his distribution. He needs to get a grip quickly or risk missing the opportunity to achieve his potential. Some of what he does is borderline fake with exaggerated saves and movement. I do not fail to acknowledge his outstanding quality with close range shots between 4-6 yards out.
Johnston I have no real comment to make as to his progress simply because I have not seen enough as of late. I am however absolutely certain he has limited effect of the organisation of the defensive unit with the players in front of him.
Maxwell is mobile, dominant, flexible in playing style, a leader, a communicator and can deliver any type of distribution required. For those reading this who are ill informed - creative long balls will also be put on the heads of static opposing defenders to hive our lads a run and jump OR dropped in from height with no speed to allow our boys to get the jump on the second ball. Yesterday's game included our boys circling the scrum down around Hugil on a long ball ready for the second ball.
This is top class distribution way beyond the basic hit the striking on the chest every time. I am sure if you go to games regularly you will know maxwell can hit Hugil on the chest.
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I will not repeat the current decent goals conceded position because others have done that job nicely already.
Goal one yesterday - powerful just inside the post and skimming the side netting. I challenge everyone to find a clip worldwide of any keeper saving a similar shot.
Goal two yesterday - powerful pin point strike from a striker who was given time to pick his point. I challenge everyone to find a clip of any keeper worldwide saving a similar shot. There is a rule on this one - the keeper must be correctly positioned before the shot is let go!
Goal three yesterday - this one presented an opportunity but lets not confuse a simple one sided attack with the reality of this goal. Maxwell had to cover the opposite side then a cross and then the eventual header. It was still a decen and very accurate header with pace. The vast majority of keepers remove themselves from responsibility by stopping at protecting the cross then point at the defenders for not protecting the back post.
I will not repeat the current decent goals conceded position because others have done that job nicely already.
Goal one yesterday - powerful just inside the post and skimming the side netting. I challenge everyone to find a clip worldwide of any keeper saving a similar shot.
Goal two yesterday - powerful pin point strike from a striker who was given time to pick his point. I challenge everyone to find a clip of any keeper worldwide saving a similar shot. There is a rule on this one - the keeper must be correctly positioned before the shot is let go!
Goal three yesterday - this one presented an opportunity but lets not confuse a simple one sided attack with the reality of this goal. Maxwell had to cover the opposite side then a cross and then the eventual header. It was still a decen and very accurate header with pace. The vast majority of keepers remove themselves from responsibility by stopping at protecting the cross then point at the defenders for not protecting the back post.
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Game, set and match...nothing more required on this thread.
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I'll say that he'll think he should've saved all three surely? If he measures himself at the high standards that are demanded. But in reality it probably isn't a fair measure.
Point on the barrier for me is fair as I think we lost our discipline from their two subs onwards, midfield mainly, it's then when shitty fouls started creeping in, arguing with the ref, their number 6 was like a best mate with the ref for the entire second half having little chats. We lost our discipline for me that was clear thus lost our initiative.
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I agree in a way with oldbutnotdone about Pickford- I too think he looks overweight but then again he has always been a chubby-cheeked looking lad and carrying a bit of extra timber never did any harm to people like Shilton, Phil Parkes and Joe Corrigan years back. Also, the bigger the keeper, the smaller the target, which is why we always used to stick a fat bastard between the jumpers when we played as kids on the park.
nowt at all wrong with DJ - - who else would stick out a left leg to stop a winger in our rB position to concede a soft free kick?
Who else would turn out of a block on the edge of the box and be left for dead when Howson scores ?
Who else would demand someone runs back 30 yards at a corner to mark a player like Traore who he is only 7 yards off ?
Thats his part in all 3 goals summed up....as you say 'nowt wrong with DJ' at all....