Moyes

[Wavertreeblue]

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Moyes for us got the best out of average players,along with peters will go down in history as two great managers who turned this club around and unlike bd actually achieved something.Hes a good man manager although was critized for been too controlling.He made our players feel like world beaters and made them believe they could win any game.
I would say down goes the chances of you signing nuge for the very reason that moyes is in charge of EFC.

Yes he is excellent at making players believe they can win a match. And i can see how he may be too controlling of players. Some of our fans criticise him for not being able to get the most out of the better players but cant criticise him for bringing the best out of the not so good players. I love him, have done since day 1 and throughout the bad period in 2003/4 and at the start of last year i always believed he is the man for the job. I can see he has faults but he has taken us so far in the last 4 years that he deserves huge credit. I can see why your fans might have been upset with him leaving so near the end of the season but he probably felt he couldnt turn it down, and im glad he didnt as we would have gone down without him that year!

I hope you are wrong with the Nuge comment!! I think he has already dithered when thinking about signing Nugent. We could have had him last January but didnt go through with it. And he has been to see him so many times i dont know what more he needs to see. The lad is class and is going to be a massive star, thats all there is to it.

 

[brianherron]

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Maybe Moyes and Derek already have a 'handshake agreement' with regards Nuge. Perhaps that's why PNE are not really pushing his new contract or why Nuge is not signing. Moyes could just be coming to watch his future investment which he takes hold of at the end of the season - after all Moyes lives locally so hasn't far to travel to watch a decent match.

 

[flipper]

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Not too high, Nugent is indispensable for us at the moment. So, unless he wants to put a "silly offer", like PS said, he might as well feck off and stop upseting Nuge and everyone around here. What good Nuge will be for him now anyway, he`ll still be playing that donkey Beattie and cheating AJ anyway.

one wonders what the clubs current valuation atually is, apparaently last time it was £5million he was quoted and rumours where abound in the summer of supposed offers/enquiries at sums in the 4 million mark but what price now? regular starter in the U21`s, scoring for them as well and what with a lack of decent english talent it wouldn`t surprise me if that alledged £5million price has gone up to around the £6million mark. personally I dont think he`s worth anything like that but for decent up and coming english players its silly prices time. I mean if Mcshefferey is worth £4million nuges has got to be worth a couple more..........Dont think moyes will be prepared to pay anything like that. Rumours that newcastle are interested as well...........they`ll always pay daft money

 

[Scrubdog]

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Not too high, Nugent is indispensable for us at the moment. So, unless he wants to put a "silly offer", like PS said, he might as well feck off and stop upseting Nuge and everyone around here. What good Nuge will be for him now anyway, he`ll still be playing that donkey Beattie and cheating AJ anyway.

I reckon we get Moyes a season ticket coz Nuge was well up for it last night.!!

Seriously, we have to keep him this season along with Whaley. We should be adding to the squad with a couple of quality players possible defender or centre mid.

I just cannot for the life of me contemplate Nuge heading out of Deepdale this jan.

Just looked at the fixtures and reckon we could be 15 points clear come Jan anyway and he might want to stay lol.

one wonders what the clubs current valuation atually is, apparaently last time it was £5million he was quoted and rumours where abound in the summer of supposed offers/enquiries at sums in the 4 million mark but what price now? regular starter in the U21`s, scoring for them as well and what with a lack of decent english talent it wouldn`t surprise me if that alledged £5million price has gone up to around the £6million mark. personally I dont think he`s worth anything like that but for decent up and coming english players its silly prices time. I mean if Mcshefferey is worth £4million nuges has got to be worth a couple more..........Dont think moyes will be prepared to pay anything like that. Rumours that newcastle are interested as well...........they`ll always pay daft money

Do we know what's the time scale on his contract etc?

His value will obviously depreciate as time runs out.

 

[pobeda]

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Only the board and our manager knows exactly what his valuation is, but IF we are in the same possition as today come January, I wouldn`t let him go for under £5mil. But if he does go, then we need to get Freddy Eastwood, who, I`m sure will jump to the chance of joining a top Championship team instead of being relegated with a hopeless Southend. And we can even make some profit 😉 As for Moyes, he is one of the best manager we have ever had and managed to take this club to another level. Not you Little Willy, it wasn`t your achievement we are where we are at the moment!

 

[sagaman]

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Saw Keith Curle there last night to taking copious notes............which club is he attached to ?

 

[Stoned Rose]

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Some on here go on about buying a few players in January to go all out for promotion, with Nugent leaving as a done deal, but I reckon the best way we can do it is by keeping hold of the Nuge.

He also should know that and he must enjoying his football with us at the moment, so for us £5/6 mill in January or £20 mill if we go up? 🙄

If we don't go up he'll probably leave for a bit less and who would stand in his way?

Thats the gamble, which the board are probably going to end up taking.

Not a hard choice really.

So long as thinngs don't go tits up between now and the next Transfer window, why would we sell him and why would he want to leave.

Thats what I reckon anyhow.

 

[noelpne]

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Blues have Beattie & Johnson. I think they are earing their dosh aren't they?
I can't see a place for him at Goodison at present.

I thought I saw BigSam in the Directors Box the other night . This worries me more.

If we can keep Nuge - and Whalley - until May, then we've a GOOD SHOUT TO GO UP if we keep this form up, - and then IF we went up, we could MATCH any other Clubs offers.

To keep Nuge/Simon for the first six months of 2007 I'd offer them very lucrative SHORT TERM contracts - to renegotiate after the end of this season.

 

[whitesince72]

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To keep Nuge/Simon for the first six months of 2007 I'd offer them very lucrative SHORT TERM contracts - to renegotiate after the end of this season.

Thats good thinking noelpne. Bloody good idea.

 

[cpnend]

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I've heard he wants Nugent on loan.

 

[whitesince72]

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I've heard he wants Nugent on loan.

I take it you are having a laugh. 😉

 

[thewizard]

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I thought I saw BigSam in the Directors Box the other night . This worries me more.

Why boss?

There is no way Bolton would bid for Nugent at the moment. Big Sam bought Anelka for £8m in the transfer window, can't see trying to sign Nugent yet. Unless of course Anelka the sulky twat decides life in Horwich is shite! 😀

 

[mark_prest]

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Blues have Beattie & Johnson. I think they are earing their dosh aren't they?
I can't see a place for him at Goodison at present.

I thought I saw BigSam in the Directors Box the other night . This worries me more.

If we can keep Nuge - and Whalley - until May, then we've a GOOD SHOUT TO GO UP if we keep this form up, - and then IF we went up, we could MATCH any other Clubs offers.

To keep Nuge/Simon for the first six months of 2007 I'd offer them very lucrative SHORT TERM contracts - to renegotiate after the end of this season.

mate of mine supports everton, he's seen nuge numerous times and said he'd gladly swap nuge for beattie any day, and he's not the only blue who feels this way.

 

[spav64]

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I hope you are wrong with the Nuge comment!! I think he has already dithered when thinking about signing Nugent. We could have had him last January but didnt go through with it. And he has been to see him so many times i dont know what more he needs to see. The lad is class and is going to be a massive star, thats all there is to it.

Two reasons why maybe he won't go to EFC while moyes is in charge,one moyes attachment to PNEFC he still has and will always have a strong affection for PNEFC something he admits and talks about everytime you see him.Can he really hinder our chances of going up ,would he want to?Secondly moyes doesn't mind spending big money on proven players,nuge however at that level isn't,he is not prepared to stretch his avaluation of 3 million for the lad,every time he scores at this level his price goes up the more the asking price ,the more moyes is likely to look elsewhere.

 

[Wavertreeblue]

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mate of mine supports everton, he's seen nuge numerous times and said he'd gladly swap nuge for beattie any day, and he's not the only blue who feels this way.

There are many blues who would do that, a high proportion want us to sell Beattie. Im one of Beattie's bigger fans but i would do anything to swap him for Nugent, there is no comparison about who would be better for us in the future. Beattie will be 29 soon and hit his peak about 4/5 years ago. Nugent is 21 and has everything in front of him, its a no brainer and i think most Evertonians can see that. And if they cant, they really really should!

Spav, i can see that. Thats why i dont think Moyes would, if he could, rip you off over Nugent and would want you to get a fair price. And, i think he would want to sign him in the summer rather than January. But, as much as he loves Preston and he really does (quite rightly), i think its more important to him to do well in his current job and may get Nuge if he had to. Your second point part of me agrees, then part of me thinks well he was willing to spend 4.5m, rising to 5.5m on Lescott who is unproven, so maybe he would do. Ok, we ended up only paying 2m for Lescott but that was only because of other circumstances, he would have paid 4.5m up front for him. I reckon we will eventually go for him, if you dont go up, and probably for 4.5m. Whether im just convincing myself of that i dont know!!

 

[keller]

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Steady, I live in Horwich :it's all good, mate.

Long Live The Whites!

 

[spav64]

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There are many blues who would do that, a high proportion want us to sell Beattie. Im one of Beattie's bigger fans but i would do anything to swap him for Nugent, there is no comparison about who would be better for us in the future. Beattie will be 29 soon and hit his peak about 4/5 years ago. Nugent is 21 and has everything in front of him, its a no brainer and i think most Evertonians can see that. And if they cant, they really really should!

Spav, i can see that. Thats why i dont think Moyes would, if he could, rip you off over Nugent and would want you to get a fair price. And, i think he would want to sign him in the summer rather than January. But, as much as he loves Preston and he really does (quite rightly), i think its more important to him to do well in his current job and may get Nuge if he had to. Your second point part of me agrees, then part of me thinks well he was willing to spend 4.5m, rising to 5.5m on Lescott who is unproven, so maybe he would do. Ok, we ended up only paying 2m for Lescott but that was only because of other circumstances, he would have paid 4.5m up front for him. I reckon we will eventually go for him, if you dont go up, and probably for 4.5m. Whether im just convincing myself of that i dont know!!

Lescott played in the premiership with wolves for a season,in my opinion and many others claude was and is better and worth more then lescott who he could have got for cheaper.So ask yourself why he didn't go for claude? the same answer as you'll get for nuge.

 

[Martsals]

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Moyes doesn't have much to spend at Everton? No wonder he's cautious.

Claude didn't have the best of games when we played Everton at Goodison last time and it was only last season that he was awesome.

 

[Jay]

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If managers come sniffing round in January, tell them they can have first refusal on Nugent in the summer, if we don't get promoted. Everyone's a winner!! Except the potential buying club! Ha ha.

 

[keasden]

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Two reasons why maybe he won't go to EFC while moyes is in charge,one moyes attachment to PNEFC he still has and will always have a strong affection for PNEFC something he admits and talks about everytime you see him.Can he really hinder our chances of going up ,would he want to?Secondly moyes doesn't mind spending big money on proven players,nuge however at that level isn't,he is not prepared to stretch his avaluation of 3 million for the lad,every time he scores at this level his price goes up the more the asking price ,the more moyes is likely to look elsewhere.

Well it didn't stop him when he jumped ship while we were still in with a chance of the play-offs did it.