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Nail on the head

Nail on the head

raefil said:
He's not a postman, he's a uefa pro qualified coach
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There are 1000s of qualified coaches not working in the EFL. It's not some badge of distinction to achieve that status.

If we sack Frankie (and if as rumoured AN doesn't want him in his next job) then the PNE job might realistically be Frankie's last job in professional coaching in the UK.

There is more chance of a postman job, than a EFL football managers job that's for sure.
 
Joanpne said:
well said no need to get personal. I like FM but perhaps in a different role.
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I know what you mean but I really think a mass clear out is needed Joan. Frankie was Neil's man, getting the bullet will be hard emotionally. It's time to just sever ties. Root and branch reform is needed. Time to get a brilliant manager in and bring in his own team of people. We need a new era, feels like we have a similar setup since promotion: Thompson still here, Ridsdale even more influential. I just hate this club setup and want it completely changed.
 
Durutti said:
I know what you mean but I really think a mass clear out is needed Joan. Frankie was Neil's man, getting the bullet will be hard emotionally. It's time to just sever ties. Root and branch reform is needed. Time to get a brilliant manager in and bring in his own team of people. We need a new era, feels like we have a similar setup since promotion: Thompson still here, Ridsdale even more influential. I just hate this club setup and want it completely changed.
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I think this is exactly where Joan and certainly myself are at. We are just making the point that personal abuse to FM doesnt need to be a part of it.
 
raefil said:
I think this is exactly where Joan and certainly myself are at. We are just making the point that personal abuse to FM doesnt need to be a part of it.
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Sigh.

"Postman" is not "personal abuse".

Just as "HMS Lindsay" is not "personal abuse".

Just as comparing a striker to a tree is not "personal abuse".

So much fishing, such puny bait.
 
raefil said:
I think this is exactly where Joan and certainly myself are at. We are just making the point that personal abuse to FM doesnt need to be a part of it.
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Yeah, totally agree. I hate the 'postman' shit. Total cheap shot made by dickheads who have never or never will achieve what FM has as an assistant manager. Just think it's total reform time
 
Dreyfuss said:
There are 1000s of qualified coaches not working in the EFL. It's not some badge of distinction to achieve that status.

If we sack Frankie (and if as rumoured AN doesn't want him in his next job) then the PNE job might realistically be Frankie's last job in professional coaching in the UK.

There is more chance of a postman job, than a EFL football managers job that's for sure.
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Just imagine if it was up to North End Jose would have never got a job in football seen as he was only a translator to Bobby Robson to start with
 
Unfortunately, the longer FM stays in post, the more the level of despondency will increase 😢.

I can only hope that there is a cunning plan to rid us of FM and PR but I fear 😨 this is not the case.

This apathy by those in a position to make real changes and acceptance of below par football if that's what you can call it has reached a tipping point 👉.

Either the axe falls now or it's a relegation dog fight and personally, I don't think that most of our players are up to it.

They show little fight or character and you need a strong Captain in those circumstances and we just don't have one.
 
GloucesterPete said:
Unfortunately, the longer FM stays in post, the more the level of despondency will increase 😢.

I can only hope that there is a cunning plan to rid us of FM and PR but I fear 😨 this is not the case.

This apathy by those in a position to make real changes and acceptance of below par football if that's what you can call it has reached a tipping point 👉.

Either the axe falls now or it's a relegation dog fight and personally, I don't think that most of our players are up to it.

They show little fight or character and you need a strong Captain in those circumstances and we just don't have one.
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Is that a actually the case regarding our fan base as a whole or just this forum?
I do think that sometimes there's a bit of the snowball effect on here. A few disgruntled posters starting threads and the momentum builds from there.
PNE fans I know who don't post on here don't seem to be as downbeat about FM.
 
I agree the snide comments need to stop, there just isn't really any need for it really.

Frankie has tried his best, he just isn't a manager for me. I don't want it to turn toxic where he's getting a load of abuse as he walks off down the tunnel if results don't go our way. It will happen if we get beat tomorrow though. He should be told its not worked out before we get to that stage.

Ridsdale has invited stick on to him with his condescending statements. But again, I'd rather he was potted before it gets to that point as he has obviously worked hard here. He's just lost the plot for me and is pissing large amounts of money away on ridiculous signings and contract extensions for players that have failed.
 
MrHodgeheg123 said:
Is that a actually the case regarding our fan base as a whole or just this forum?
I do think that sometimes there's a bit of the snowball effect on here. A few disgruntled posters starting threads and the momentum builds from there.
PNE fans I know who don't post on here don't seem to be as downbeat about FM.
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Possibly, or maybe they don't have an avenue to vent their feelings to someone that's likely to listen !
 
MrHodgeheg123 said:
Is that a actually the case regarding our fan base as a whole or just this forum?
I do think that sometimes there's a bit of the snowball effect on here. A few disgruntled posters starting threads and the momentum builds from there.
PNE fans I know who don't post on here don't seem to be as downbeat about FM.
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Maybe. I certainly felt that was the case early on in the Neil Out months in his final season. I think if you look at FB posts and other stuff on twitter there is a lot of 'cheap option'/no experience kind of criticism.

The new manager, if an experienced coach, does need some long term support though.
 
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