New Attacking Midfielder
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A very good recommendation, Voldemort. I saw him at Plymouth a couple of seasons back when he had an outstanding game for the Pilgrims, including a memorable 30 yards drive which cannoned off the post with Andy Lonergan at full stretch, when we all gasped a sigh of relief. I thought then that he should be on our list of one's to watch, but would probably be out of our reach financially. He has had two outstanding seasons at Plymouth, and the talk is that it will be difficult for them to keep hold of him in the January transfer window; but there was the same talk last season when WBA were expected to bid for him, but didn't. I would put him on a par with Jason Koumas, who WBA wanted £1.5m for at the start of this season before he had his reconciliation with Bryan Robson. I don't think he is ever likely to be a prolific mid-field goal scorer, but he would be a superior alternative to Dickson Etuhu and Jason Jarrett, in my opinion. But have we seriously got that sort of money for one player, even with a player trade thrown in? I doubt it. And I also suspect that with his quality being already known and established, he might well be punching his weight right now and not be one for your trader concept with more value to be added eventually. He is 24/25 now, I believe.
Voldemort said:
A very good recommendation, Voldemort. I saw him at Plymouth a couple of seasons back when he had an outstanding game for the Pilgrims, including a memorable 30 yards drive which cannoned off the post with Andy Lonergan at full stretch, when we all gasped a sigh of relief. I thought then that he should be on our list of one's to watch, but would probably be out of our reach financially. He has had two outstanding seasons at Plymouth, and the talk is that it will be difficult for them to keep hold of him in the January transfer window; but there was the same talk last season when WBA were expected to bid for him, but didn't. I would put him on a par with Jason Koumas, who WBA wanted £1.5m for at the start of this season before he had his reconciliation with Bryan Robson. I don't think he is ever likely to be a prolific mid-field goal scorer, but he would be a superior alternative to Dickson Etuhu and Jason Jarrett, in my opinion. But have we seriously got that sort of money for one player, even with a player trade thrown in? I doubt it. And I also suspect that with his quality being already known and established, he might well be punching his weight right now and not be one for your trader concept with more value to be added eventually. He is 24/25 now, I believe.
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Fair enough pobeda, but he couldn't resist climbing once again onto his high horse and pointing out that he had received two "hot tips" could he?
What he is short of is having one of those "hot tips" (preferably the end of a well heated poker) shoved right where it would do the most damage......🙂 .
That should be enough to get him on here demanding my telephone number and/or my address......🙄 .
Also pobeda, it is hardly rocket science is it to spot that without the likes of O'Neil, Stock, Jarret, Nowland and Davidson, midfield would be the next area of the team that Simpson would focus on strengthening...........albeit possibly temporarily.
If you are getting the impression that I don't have much time for you know who...........you are spot on!
pobeda said:
Fair enough pobeda, but he couldn't resist climbing once again onto his high horse and pointing out that he had received two "hot tips" could he?
What he is short of is having one of those "hot tips" (preferably the end of a well heated poker) shoved right where it would do the most damage......🙂 .
That should be enough to get him on here demanding my telephone number and/or my address......🙄 .
Also pobeda, it is hardly rocket science is it to spot that without the likes of O'Neil, Stock, Jarret, Nowland and Davidson, midfield would be the next area of the team that Simpson would focus on strengthening...........albeit possibly temporarily.
If you are getting the impression that I don't have much time for you know who...........you are spot on!
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Albertan if it was that obvious then one may well ask why didn't you start such a thread ? Once again you are pissed off because I've got it right. You didn't even know about Buzsaky did you Albertan.
You are relegated back to your useless stats. By the way quite frankly I also have no time for you. What have your stats got to say about that Mr Permafrost ?
Albertan if it was that obvious then one may well ask why didn't you start such a thread ? Once again you are pissed off because I've got it right. You didn't even know about Buzsaky did you Albertan.
You are relegated back to your useless stats. By the way quite frankly I also have no time for you. What have your stats got to say about that Mr Permafrost ?
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Pissed off......me??????? From what I have read and heard about Tommy Miller he could be a real asset to North End's run for the prem, I am absolutely delighted with this strengthening of the team...............and it didn't/won't cost us a million quid like you were advocating we spend........😛 .
Got it right.........don't make me laugh, you said your "hot tips" were Buzasky and Ward...............have I missed something, have we signed them as well...🙄 .
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Pissed off......me??????? From what I have read and heard about Tommy Miller he could be a real asset to North End's run for the prem, I am absolutely delighted with this strengthening of the team...............and it didn't/won't cost us a million quid like you were advocating we spend........😛 .
Got it right.........don't make me laugh, you said your "hot tips" were Buzasky and Ward...............have I missed something, have we signed them as well...🙄 .
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Allow me to taunt you a little more you ignoramus Albertan (as in being unknowledgeable about the game) "got it right" in the context of discussing what I'd indentified as the need for an attacking midfielder at precisely the moment Simpson decided to do something about it.
As for Miller ? When at Hartlepool then Ipswich was an excellent player. Not sure about him now though. He's 27 and if we have designs on signing him he will not meet the Trader Concept requirement. So if we have intentions of signing him for say £300K it's money down the drain. Indeed somebody mentioned we have a "young" midfield but the FACTS reveal it to be anything but that i.e. the main players being McKenna now 29, Sedgwick 26 and Pugh 24. None of them in their early 20's with Parillon being completely ignored.
With £40 million at stake over a two year period I wanted to see DS sending out a clear message of intent (as do several thousand other missing fans) by making an OUTSTANDING signing like Buzsaky. Miller will be an OK signing which means I suspect he isn't really any better than Nowland or Sedgwick. Alternatively this could be a move to buy time for Nowland's recovery.
Allow me to taunt you a little more you ignoramus Albertan (as in being unknowledgeable about the game) "got it right" in the context of discussing what I'd indentified as the need for an attacking midfielder at precisely the moment Simpson decided to do something about it.
As for Miller ? When at Hartlepool then Ipswich was an excellent player. Not sure about him now though. He's 27 and if we have designs on signing him he will not meet the Trader Concept requirement. So if we have intentions of signing him for say £300K it's money down the drain. Indeed somebody mentioned we have a "young" midfield but the FACTS reveal it to be anything but that i.e. the main players being McKenna now 29, Sedgwick 26 and Pugh 24. None of them in their early 20's with Parillon being completely ignored.
With £40 million at stake over a two year period I wanted to see DS sending out a clear message of intent (as do several thousand other missing fans) by making an OUTSTANDING signing like Buzsaky. Miller will be an OK signing which means I suspect he isn't really any better than Nowland or Sedgwick. Alternatively this could be a move to buy time for Nowland's recovery.
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To be fair Parillion has had back problems all season and has rarely been fit for the reserves, let alone first team contention, so it may not be the case that he is being totally ignored, more likely he is unfit.
If Miller helps fire us to a 40 million payout, how could that be money down the drain?
Likewise not dissing Buzsaky as a poor player, have only seen him in the flesh once and on TV once and he has looked good, but if we paid a million for him at 25, how is this trader concept, surely regardless of whether we get promotion with his help according to your theory, this to would be money down the drain.
No insults required, just making relevant points.
For the record I urged we signed Hamill last season when he was available on a free, particularly so as he can also play as a tough tackling holding midfielder, who for certain games we will require and have at present no-one in that mould.
If I had a million to spend I'd spend it on Greg Halford, the lad goes from strength to strength and can play anywhere. I suspect in years to come he will end up as a central midfielder. As for the one for the trader concept I'd go with a previously named player Dave Edwards at Shrewsbury. At 18 the lad has already broke into the Welsh under 21's, though I have only seen clips on TV of the lad, I work with a Shrewsbury season ticket holder and they rave about him and reckon he will be real star. We could pick him up now for next to nothing.
We don't need a striker yet but if Nooge goes, the attention focused on Eastwood and the large price tag that goes with it, means we should switch are attention to Izale McCleoud, the lad is getting better and better, we should be lining up a deal just in case.
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To be fair Parillion has had back problems all season and has rarely been fit for the reserves, let alone first team contention, so it may not be the case that he is being totally ignored, more likely he is unfit.
If Miller helps fire us to a 40 million payout, how could that be money down the drain?
Likewise not dissing Buzsaky as a poor player, have only seen him in the flesh once and on TV once and he has looked good, but if we paid a million for him at 25, how is this trader concept, surely regardless of whether we get promotion with his help according to your theory, this to would be money down the drain.
No insults required, just making relevant points.
For the record I urged we signed Hamill last season when he was available on a free, particularly so as he can also play as a tough tackling holding midfielder, who for certain games we will require and have at present no-one in that mould.
If I had a million to spend I'd spend it on Greg Halford, the lad goes from strength to strength and can play anywhere. I suspect in years to come he will end up as a central midfielder. As for the one for the trader concept I'd go with a previously named player Dave Edwards at Shrewsbury. At 18 the lad has already broke into the Welsh under 21's, though I have only seen clips on TV of the lad, I work with a Shrewsbury season ticket holder and they rave about him and reckon he will be real star. We could pick him up now for next to nothing.
We don't need a striker yet but if Nooge goes, the attention focused on Eastwood and the large price tag that goes with it, means we should switch are attention to Izale McCleoud, the lad is getting better and better, we should be lining up a deal just in case.
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O.K. Kenna's 29 & Miller's 27 but we didn't sign Grezza till he was 27 & he's been here now for ages. Kenna strikes are few & far between & he'll never make 10 in any season - whats wrong with having him in a holding role a bit deeper in an O'Neil role for a few years & Miller going in to a bit more attacking role & bagging those 10-15 we'd like?
As far as the other 2 lads being a bit old - can't say that Danny's very old yet & he's generally
improving ; as far as Sedge goes he's come on in leaps & bounds now he's been moved
inside-whether he's enough good for the Prem...... - TBH I'd say we should get someone better,sometime in 2007.
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O.K. Kenna's 29 & Miller's 27 but we didn't sign Grezza till he was 27 & he's been here now for ages. Kenna strikes are few & far between & he'll never make 10 in any season - whats wrong with having him in a holding role a bit deeper in an O'Neil role for a few years & Miller going in to a bit more attacking role & bagging those 10-15 we'd like?
As far as the other 2 lads being a bit old - can't say that Danny's very old yet & he's generally
improving ; as far as Sedge goes he's come on in leaps & bounds now he's been moved
inside-whether he's enough good for the Prem...... - TBH I'd say we should get someone better,sometime in 2007.
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I've been thinking this but then I thought it's strange that the deal is until the 1st of Jan.
This really means two things.
Sunderland are after selling him in January
Preston are buying him in January
So, whatever happens, it looks like Miller won't be playing at Sunderland again.
Oofaafuu said:
I've been thinking this but then I thought it's strange that the deal is until the 1st of Jan.
This really means two things.
Sunderland are after selling him in January
Preston are buying him in January
So, whatever happens, it looks like Miller won't be playing at Sunderland again.
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I think our league position come January will depend a lot on if Sunderland sell. If we're in the top two and out of their reach, I'm sure they'll be keen on selling him. If we're closer together in terms of our relative league positions, we may not be able to prise him away.
I think our league position come January will depend a lot on if Sunderland sell. If we're in the top two and out of their reach, I'm sure they'll be keen on selling him. If we're closer together in terms of our relative league positions, we may not be able to prise him away.
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As to buying Miller in january ,funny thing is we play the Mackems on Dec 30th . My guess is they will slap a "can't play " on Miller .
As to buying Miller in january ,funny thing is we play the Mackems on Dec 30th . My guess is they will slap a "can't play " on Miller .
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Sunderland let Rory Delap play for stoke against sunderland, admittedly he did break his leg, but keano let him play. So hopefully he will play a score and we will then all enjoy new years a little bit more...
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Sunderland let Rory Delap play for stoke against sunderland, admittedly he did break his leg, but keano let him play. So hopefully he will play a score and we will then all enjoy new years a little bit more...
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Oofafu you're up to something sinister. You've agreed twice with me on this thread. I smell a rat !
As for Alexander signing at 27 ? Yep he's been truly outstanding. So much so that he's the exception to the rule. Unfortunately players, when signing for us at late 20's, it doesn't normally go that way. Take Davidson as an example. When we signed him many came on here singing his praises. I became unpopular when I had the audacity to point out that while as a player he had undoubted quality sadly he would turn out to be injury prone and we'd be lucky to get more than 15-18 games out of him in any one season. Basically what I said would happen with him has happened leading one to ask the question how come our manager and back room staff didn't spot that one at the time ?
My take on this is that in view of how near to the promised land we are I would have expected a clear sign from the board of "we mean business" or are we once again going to bolster our forward line with the loan signing of Stewart ?
Oofafu you're up to something sinister. You've agreed twice with me on this thread. I smell a rat !
As for Alexander signing at 27 ? Yep he's been truly outstanding. So much so that he's the exception to the rule. Unfortunately players, when signing for us at late 20's, it doesn't normally go that way. Take Davidson as an example. When we signed him many came on here singing his praises. I became unpopular when I had the audacity to point out that while as a player he had undoubted quality sadly he would turn out to be injury prone and we'd be lucky to get more than 15-18 games out of him in any one season. Basically what I said would happen with him has happened leading one to ask the question how come our manager and back room staff didn't spot that one at the time ?
My take on this is that in view of how near to the promised land we are I would have expected a clear sign from the board of "we mean business" or are we once again going to bolster our forward line with the loan signing of Stewart ?
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Not allowed to do that in the Football League unless it is expressly written into the loan deal right at the start. If he's not able to play against Sunderland, Simpson and Shaw know about it and have already agreed to such a clause. The Premiership has a rule that loanees can't play against their 'home' side at all.
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Not allowed to do that in the Football League unless it is expressly written into the loan deal right at the start. If he's not able to play against Sunderland, Simpson and Shaw know about it and have already agreed to such a clause. The Premiership has a rule that loanees can't play against their 'home' side at all.