Next Week
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How?????????
SIXTH AT MOST
Have a look at the table. It's certainly mathematically possible, if a little unlikely. None of the four sides below us are playing each other, the three immediately below us could win and have more points than us. For Burnley (in sixth now) to go above us they would have to win 2-0 if we get beat 3-0, 3-0 if we get beat 2-0, 4-0 if we get beat 1-0 etc. etc. Then they'd be above us on goal difference.
Unlikely, but you never know.
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Lucketti20pne
indeed 6th is the lowest and thats very unlikely considering our goal difference aswell as the fact all the 4 teams below us would have to win. and no its not possible to be 7th
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CHAMPIONSHIP TABLE
Saturday 2 December
Team P Home Away Pts Goal
Diff
W D L F A W D L F A
Birmingham 21 6 3 1 17 8 6 1 4 15 13 40 11
Preston 21 7 4 0 19 6 3 4 3 12 13 38 12
Cardiff 21 6 3 1 16 5 5 2 4 15 15 38 11
Derby 21 5 3 2 14 9 6 1 4 17 16 37 6
Southampton 21 6 3 1 14 7 4 3 4 20 17 36 10
Burnley 21 6 1 4 18 13 4 4 2 12 9 35 8
Stoke 21 6 3 1 16 4 3 4 4 13 11 34 14
Top 7, get your maths right.
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Lucketti20pne
explain please. is it 4 points for a win now?
I realised I'd made a mistake and changed it - sorry 'bout that.
It's the best league in all 3 leagues! (inc Prem)... that's what footballs all about... far better than a one horse race i.e Man u Chealski!
We weill be thier and their abouts!! after the last 5 games we've played i can't see us going up automaticaly!
* Southend (a)! 0-0 (poor)
* Leicester (a)! 0-1 (poor despite the win)
* Palace (h) 0-0 (poor even though they come for a draw)
* Coventry (h) 1-1 ( if i was a Coventry fan i'd of been gutted with taking only 1pt)
* Luton (a) poor by all sounds inc the radio/Sky sports!! they've lost their last 7/8 but turn it on against the lillywhites!!
Never mind!! it's all good... well sort off, but hopefully we'll all stick together and challange for what i hope is ..... PROMOTION!!! even though it means the dreaded Play-offs!! 😱
Up the whites!!!
We weill be thier and their abouts!! after the last 5 games we've played i can't see us going up automaticaly!
* Southend (a)! 0-0 (poor)
* Leicester (a)! 0-1 (poor despite the win)
* Palace (h) 0-0 (poor even though they come for a draw)
* Coventry (h) 1-1 ( if i was a Coventry fan i'd of been gutted with taking only 1pt)
* Luton (a) poor by all sounds inc the radio/Sky sports!! they've lost their last 7/8 but turn it on against the lillywhites!!
Never mind!! it's all good... well sort off, but hopefully we'll all stick together and challange for what i hope is ..... PROMOTION!!! even though it means the dreaded Play-offs!! 😱
Up the whites!!!
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dannypne7
Yeah, I thought that Stoke had won - my error. Even so, sixth would be bad enough a week after being top. 🙁
Why is it all doom and gloom around here?! Yes, we have been on a bad run in the last 5 games and have not been playing up to our usual standards. But we are still in second place, and hopefully todays defeat with give certain individuals the kick up the backside they need.
You don't turn into a bad team overnight, and a have a bunch of good quality experienced players who can turn this 'blip' around. We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that up until a few weeks ago we were 'the' form team in the Championship and hitting 3/4 goals every week. Simpson twice come close to winning manager of the month awards, and people tipping us for automatic promotion.
While some supporters did get a bit carried away with things at the time as there was over half the season left, we seem to have lost the self-belief which ultimately got us into the the top two places. I just don't see a need for all this despondancy as its not as if we are going through a crisis.
There is no reason why we can't go and beat Birmingham next week and go top of the table again. Already this season we have beaten both WBA and Cardiff so we are perfectly capable of doing it again.
The expectations of North End fans has risen dramatically in the last few months after we managed only one point from our opening two games of the season. Back then we could only dream of being 2nd in the league in the first week of December so really Simpson is performing miracles. Who honestly thought in August we would be were we are now with minimal investment and the offloading of key players?
Simo will ensure that the players take a long hard look at themselves after todays dismal first-half showing, and they can only improve. It is fair to say that complacency has set in in the last few matches, as pointed out by Alexander after the game. But hopefully we will have learnt from todays defeat and will approach our tough upcoming fixtures in the right manner, starting next week at St Andrews.
There is no point in making wholesale changes to the team as that will only shatter confidence and disillusion players who up until recently have been performing more than admirably. Mike Newell kept faith with the same side which suffered seven straight defeats, and just look at the response they provided him with this afternoon!
However I would make a couple of changes which are warranted by our recent performances. As many have stated, Sedgwick has not been cutting the mustard for a number of weeks now and is simply not standing up to be counted. So it is time to give him a wee rest and let Miller have a true run of games in his favoured position.
Assuming Davidson is fit enough he has to be slotted in at left-back on Saturday. Pugh is not able to contain opposing wingers/forwards as we saw for Adebola's goal on Tuesday, and again today with Edwards beating him rather too easily. This would mean Pugh would resume his role on the left of midfield in which he has proved far more effective as a supply-line and potential goal-getter.
Dichio should also be brought back in to replace Agyemang who seems to be out of sorts at the moment. The Nugent/Agyemang partnership does not seem to be working right now, while Dichio is a useful foil for Nuge and frees up space for him in the box. Nugent & Agy are just too similiar and neither gives us the aerial presence and hold-up play which Danny provides.
We must get behind Simo and the team as a whole for the remainder of the season instead of simply castigating certain players (not mentioning any names!). Simpson has done an unbelievable job to get us where we are right now but we must keep faith and believe in what he is trying to do.
There is no point in reacting negatively to today's loss and thinking oh we could be down to sixth/seventh next Saturday if we lose to the Brummies. How does that do anyone any good?! If we go into the game with that mind-set we might as well lie-down and roll over now.
Yes, some players haven't been pulling their weight in recent games but we must have confidence in the manager that he can shake it up a bit and turn things around. As North End fans we are so fickle, the slightest disappointment and the end of the world is nigh! Wake up and smell the coffee, we are still in SECOND place and with a few additions in January there is no reason why we can't stay there...
You don't turn into a bad team overnight, and a have a bunch of good quality experienced players who can turn this 'blip' around. We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that up until a few weeks ago we were 'the' form team in the Championship and hitting 3/4 goals every week. Simpson twice come close to winning manager of the month awards, and people tipping us for automatic promotion.
While some supporters did get a bit carried away with things at the time as there was over half the season left, we seem to have lost the self-belief which ultimately got us into the the top two places. I just don't see a need for all this despondancy as its not as if we are going through a crisis.
There is no reason why we can't go and beat Birmingham next week and go top of the table again. Already this season we have beaten both WBA and Cardiff so we are perfectly capable of doing it again.
The expectations of North End fans has risen dramatically in the last few months after we managed only one point from our opening two games of the season. Back then we could only dream of being 2nd in the league in the first week of December so really Simpson is performing miracles. Who honestly thought in August we would be were we are now with minimal investment and the offloading of key players?
Simo will ensure that the players take a long hard look at themselves after todays dismal first-half showing, and they can only improve. It is fair to say that complacency has set in in the last few matches, as pointed out by Alexander after the game. But hopefully we will have learnt from todays defeat and will approach our tough upcoming fixtures in the right manner, starting next week at St Andrews.
There is no point in making wholesale changes to the team as that will only shatter confidence and disillusion players who up until recently have been performing more than admirably. Mike Newell kept faith with the same side which suffered seven straight defeats, and just look at the response they provided him with this afternoon!
However I would make a couple of changes which are warranted by our recent performances. As many have stated, Sedgwick has not been cutting the mustard for a number of weeks now and is simply not standing up to be counted. So it is time to give him a wee rest and let Miller have a true run of games in his favoured position.
Assuming Davidson is fit enough he has to be slotted in at left-back on Saturday. Pugh is not able to contain opposing wingers/forwards as we saw for Adebola's goal on Tuesday, and again today with Edwards beating him rather too easily. This would mean Pugh would resume his role on the left of midfield in which he has proved far more effective as a supply-line and potential goal-getter.
Dichio should also be brought back in to replace Agyemang who seems to be out of sorts at the moment. The Nugent/Agyemang partnership does not seem to be working right now, while Dichio is a useful foil for Nuge and frees up space for him in the box. Nugent & Agy are just too similiar and neither gives us the aerial presence and hold-up play which Danny provides.
We must get behind Simo and the team as a whole for the remainder of the season instead of simply castigating certain players (not mentioning any names!). Simpson has done an unbelievable job to get us where we are right now but we must keep faith and believe in what he is trying to do.
There is no point in reacting negatively to today's loss and thinking oh we could be down to sixth/seventh next Saturday if we lose to the Brummies. How does that do anyone any good?! If we go into the game with that mind-set we might as well lie-down and roll over now.
Yes, some players haven't been pulling their weight in recent games but we must have confidence in the manager that he can shake it up a bit and turn things around. As North End fans we are so fickle, the slightest disappointment and the end of the world is nigh! Wake up and smell the coffee, we are still in SECOND place and with a few additions in January there is no reason why we can't stay there...