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Nmecha

SouthWestWhite;n3401604 said:
Nmecha is basically a carbon copy of all their current strikers. Howe is a boring man lacking in personality. Seems like a match made in heaven.

Bit harsh that. The lad might not have scored yet but it's clear to anyone who knows anything about football that this lad will go on to have a top career in the game
 
paddysr;n3401606 said:
Bit harsh that. The lad might not have scored yet but it's clear to anyone who knows anything about football that this lad will go on to have a top career in the game

Wasn't a dig at Nmecha, more at Howe. I think Nmecha has bags of potential, but he essentially fits the exact same mould of Josh King and Callum Wilson in terms of style of play. Howe being the exciting chap he is would probably love to pay over the odds for him, despite the fact he probably could do with a bit more variety in his striking options.
 
Nmecha clearly prefers balls played to his feet and where he can run the channels, which makes him a different striker to the likes of Moult and Maguire. Not necessarily better or worse, but often a striker is the sum of their combinations with the players around them. IMO Nmecha plays better with DJ feeding him centrally, than with the wingers feeding balls laterally. I'm sure that may change with more experience though as he learns to read the game better and position himself for those. To date, he's played U21s football where his skill has gotten him success aganist other, less experienced opponents.
 
ushtey;n3401818 said:
Nmecha clearly prefers balls played to his feet and where he can run the channels, which makes him a different striker to the likes of Moult and Maguire. Not necessarily better or worse, but often a striker is the sum of their combinations with the players around them. IMO Nmecha plays better with DJ feeding him centrally, than with the wingers feeding balls laterally. I'm sure that may change with more experience though as he learns to read the game better and position himself for those. To date, he's played U21s football where his skill has gotten him success aganist other, less experienced opponents.


How do you feel about PNE nurturing him.... when theres not a chance of him actually signing for us?
 
Liberation;n3401821 said:
How do you feel about PNE nurturing him.... when theres not a chance of him actually signing for us?

Pretty much like I did with Pickford & Johnson. If we can benefit at a lower cost then it's a good thing. The same with Barker. At times, I'm annoyed that it seems like the most successful teams in the Championship are the ones with the best loan players, but sadly that's just how it is now. If he wasn't with us he'd be at one of our rivals and I'd rather we had the benefit than someone else, especially if he offers something we don't already have in the team.

And I think towards the end of the season, he's likely to be putting in full effort to impress his manager or other "bigger" clubs for next season.
 
Liberation;n3401821 said:
How do you feel about PNE nurturing him.... when theres not a chance of him actually signing for us?

Perfectly fine with it. As long as we only have 2 or 3 loan players then it's fine by me. Let's face it we've used the loan system to get some of our players games elsewhere - Earl, Hugill etc.
 
SouthWestWhite;n3401617 said:
Wasn't a dig at Nmecha, more at Howe. I think Nmecha has bags of potential, but he essentially fits the exact same mould of Josh King and Callum Wilson in terms of style of play. Howe being the exciting chap he is would probably love to pay over the odds for him, despite the fact he probably could do with a bit more variety in his striking options.

Clubs are watching players all the time, whether they are similar to what they've already got or not. A big club may come in for Callum Wilson with huge money for example, and they'd then need a replacement with similar qualities. Hence why they're scouting the likes of Nmecha.
 
White123;n3400742 said:
I forgot his name as well. I think he missed a one on one for Boro on Saturday and is yet to score this season. 100% a 20 goal a season striker though.

Just realised his name was Jordan, seen his name pop up on Saturday after getting a rare start :thumbsup:
 
A goal and an assist for on-loan @ManCity striker @LukasNmecha just six minutes after coming off the bench for @England U20s against Germany
 
llanroc;n3403925 said:
A goal and an assist for on-loan @ManCity striker @LukasNmecha just six minutes after coming off the bench for @England U20s against Germany

Finally some good news to come out of the international break
 
I hope this gives him some extra confidence because in some games he has shown some real promise and in others has been a little anonymous.
There is obviously a step up from this level to the 'Mans' Game but hopefully he can open his account in the proper game and kick on.
 
Liberation;n3400752 said:
I don't agree with the loan market ( other than emergencies) because at the end of the day it may give you ( or your opponents) an unfair advantage...I think your squad should stand or fall based on signings at the start of the season and who you buy in the window ( no escape with that Trev ).......

That aside, the loan market isn't going away so could someone please explain to me the logic of bringing in a rookie and developing him for another club?...... If we are to play the loan market then for heavens sake at least bring in the finished article that can actually improve on what we've got... I've nothing against this lad and I'm sure he'll be a " good un " in time but it'll be for someone else and he's hardly likely to fire us up the league or ever likely to become a PNE player is he? Don't see the point personally.

Personally i’d like to see a complete end to the loan system and a cap on squad sizes as it just allows the prem teams to carry larger squads and prevents teams lower down the league structure developing players and selling them on, but the vested interest of the prem teams means this won’t happen.

in reply to your point about bringing in Nmecha from what has been said at the last forum, it sounds as though we tried to make a permanent signing, one target chose another club (Armstrong to Blackburn ? as he’’d played for Mowbray before), the other target was Moore from Barnsley, a price had been agreed, then they changed their mind and doubled the asking price. That left us in desperately needed of a striker with the transfer window about to shut, so we took a punt on Nmecha as we could afford him and AN/PR thought he had the ‘potential’ to deliver at a Championship level. That assessment may have been based on him being used as cover for Sean Maguire, unfortunately the injury to Seani meant that he was throw in at the deepend on a much steeper learning curve than was initially anticipated.
 
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It’s is simple we need to play to his strengths and play it on the deck, he’s no good against big experienced centre halves in this division they just bully him. He’s only 19 so he’s learning, a goal and he will be away.
 
Was first class when he came on today.

Chased every ball, tracked back and despite not winning any decision from the referee ended up setting up the goal.

With Barker out he needed to step up and did so. Hopefully can build on it.
 
JK;n3409957 said:
Was first class when he came on today.

Chased every ball, tracked back and despite not winning any decision from the referee ended up setting up the goal.

With Barker out he needed to step up and did so. Hopefully can build on it.

Don’t want to be negative on such a great day, but for me he was poor again. Tracked back more than Barker would have done and did well for the goal, but outmuscled way too often, never won a header, lost possession repeatedly and offered zero goal threat. At one point, he was set free for a run on goal and looked like he had no idea what he was supposed to do . Nothing against the lad, just don’t rate him. He splits opinions clearly (!) but for me he shouldn’t/wouldn’t be anywhere near the lineup if we had a full squad to choose from.
 
Staffordwhite;n3410036 said:
Don’t want to be negative on such a great day, but for me he was poor again. Tracked back more than Barker would have done and did well for the goal, but outmuscled way too often, never won a header, lost possession repeatedly and offered zero goal threat. At one point, he was set free for a run on goal and looked like he had no idea what he was supposed to do . Nothing against the lad, just don’t rate him. He splits opinions clearly (!) but for me he shouldn’t/wouldn’t be anywhere near the lineup if we had a full squad to choose from.

MoM for me.
 
Staffordwhite;n3410036 said:
Don’t want to be negative on such a great day, but for me he was poor again. Tracked back more than Barker would have done and did well for the goal, but outmuscled way too often, never won a header, lost possession repeatedly and offered zero goal threat. At one point, he was set free for a run on goal and looked like he had no idea what he was supposed to do . Nothing against the lad, just don’t rate him. He splits opinions clearly (!) but for me he shouldn’t/wouldn’t be anywhere near the lineup if we had a full squad to choose from.

Think we watched a different game.
 
sf;n3400708 said:
Far better player than when we had Josh King on loan at a similar age, he's ended up doing pretty well for himself.

Would be disappointed to lose him, can see him hitting a purple patch soon.

A ratio of less than 1 goal in 3 matches for speed merchant King at Bournemouth. Hardly prolific so pretty well is a fair assessment. Nmecha has shades of Thierry Henry, for me, but at this point in his development, at this level, he doesn't appear to be a natural hungry striker-at-goal or poacher - as he seems to fluff his lines in front of goal. But he's young and this level is tough.
Moult has played like he has been installed with fireworks in his legs for a few weeks now. And with winners like today's he'll only grow in confidence. Moult has been much faster on his feet recently, than during his early outings for the Lilywhites.
 
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