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Nmecha

Jack Daniels;n3400725 said:
I am interested to know what those who confidently posted that he would score 10 goals plus now think, especially given that he has ballsed up a sitter or two.
Nothing against the lad. Telling though that the much maligned Moult, whom I am a fan of, has out scored him by 3 goals this season in much much less game time...
I think a few were blinded by the City / Pep link, end of the day, a strikers currency is goals...

A bit like Will Keane when he played for North End, and like many who come through the youth systems at Premier League clubs, Nmecha is another example of what I would label a blunt or "dull" diamond. By this I mean a raw talent (a rough diamond) that has (or had) skill, pace and strength - all the attributes - but possibly having had many of those raw skills, and perhaps hunger, either coached out of them, or hardly put into genuine use by their parent clubs, and hence have never really had the chance to perform and, consequently, have lost confidence or the edge that made them a talented youngster. I would include Harrop in this category, who has less than a year of life less than Alan Browne, yet has played only a fraction of the matches that Browne has completed. Talent aside, these two players are a gulf apart in terms of the edge, hunger, savvy and persistence of a professional player.
As in the case of Ben Pearson, who has fought through the dangers of his tenacity and short fuse to mature from the raw youth talent into a toughened adult player, once these young players get into the groove at a teamlikepreston, they are given the time and chances to allow their lost vigour and edge to re-emerge. None of this is down to their parent club, yet, when it comes down to it, these players will rarely go back and thank "teamslikepreston" (Beckham did, to his credit) for the crucial role in their development into a successful adult player, once they have departed Preston, with their confidence restored.

I am directly criticising the top flight clubs who enchant parents and their young children into the potential place in a premier league team, at a very young age, only to scrap heap the player until his 23rd birthday, by which time a raft of one' generation's top players have not had the chance to play adult professional football. This filters onto the terraces. It is stark to observe that at any one time in the football league, players as good as Matty James, Sam Johnstone and Harrop have been inactive professional footballers while far more mediocre talents are turning out week in week out. In terms of entertainment, this slice of perfectly fit and able, and entertaining players are being kept out of football by their parent clubs who are, essentially, fattening their youth players up like the cash cows they only ever intended them to be.
I remember Sam Johnstone interviewed after a brilliant season with North End. "Sam, do you want to re-sign for Preston for next season?" Sam replied "I still feel like a Manchester United player so I will probably not stay." He never played for Manchester, and, at 25, is currently playing for his 8th club.
 
paolo poggi;n3410102 said:
A bit like Will Keane when he played for North End, and like many who come through the youth systems at Premier League clubs, Nmecha is another example of what I would label a blunt or "dull" diamond. By this I mean a raw talent (a rough diamond) that has (or had) skill, pace and strength - all the attributes - but possibly having had many of those raw skills, and perhaps hunger, either coached out of them, or hardly put into genuine use by their parent clubs, and hence have never really had the chance to perform and, consequently, have lost confidence or the edge that made them a talented youngster. I would include Harrop in this category, who has less than a year of life less than Alan Browne, yet has played only a fraction of the matches that Browne has completed. Talent aside, these two players are a gulf apart in terms of the edge, hunger, savvy and persistence of a professional player.
As in the case of Ben Pearson, who has fought through the dangers of his tenacity and short fuse to mature from the raw youth talent into a toughened adult player, once these young players get into the groove at a teamlikepreston, they are given the time and chances to allow their lost vigour and edge to re-emerge. None of this is down to their parent club, yet, when it comes down to it, these players will rarely go back and thank "teamslikepreston" (Beckham did, to his credit) for the crucial role in their development into a successful adult player, once they have departed Preston, with their confidence restored.

I am directly criticising the top flight clubs who enchant parents and their young children into the potential place in a premier league team, at a very young age, only to scrap heap the player until his 23rd birthday, by which time a raft of one' generation's top players have not had the chance to play adult professional football. This filters onto the terraces. It is stark to observe that at any one time in the football league, players as good as Matty James, Sam Johnstone and Harrop have been inactive professional footballers while far more mediocre talents are turning out week in week out. In terms of entertainment, this slice of perfectly fit and able, and entertaining players are being kept out of football by their parent clubs who are, essentially, fattening their youth players up like the cash cows they only ever intended them to be.
I remember Sam Johnstone interviewed after a brilliant season with North End. "Sam, do you want to re-sign for Preston for next season?" Sam replied "I still feel like a Manchester United player so I will probably not stay." He never played for Manchester, and, at 25, is currently playing for his 8th club.

Excellent post this
 
Tino;n3400704 said:
Aye I've said this, I think if he goes on loan to someone else next season, and lets face it there'll be loads looking to take him, then I think they will see the best of him. He's doing a lot of his learning here and will become a far better player for it.

I'd be surprised if a Premier League club made a permanent bid for him at this stage though.

I would have thought that we would have a decent chance of taking him back next season. It not about him winning trophies at this point in his career it’s about maximising his potential. City don’t need the money so it’s unlikely his loan would turn into a bidding war. It wouldn’t be in the lads interest to sit on the bench at a promotion chasing team. It could be argued he may have been better going out on loan to a league one team this season. I can only assume that an offer to take him didn’t materialise or perhaps the more ‘robust’ style of pllay of a number of teams in league one may not have best suited him.

So I think we need to see have things go in the second half of the season, if he gets enough game time to make progress, in both his and City’s eyes I think there is a good chance he will return, assuming North End think that his development requirements fit in with our needs to compete at the top end of the league.
 
paolo poggi;n3410102 said:
A bit like Will Keane when he played for North End, and like many who come through the youth systems at Premier League clubs, Nmecha is another example of what I would label a blunt or "dull" diamond. By this I mean a raw talent (a rough diamond) that has (or had) skill, pace and strength - all the attributes - but possibly having had many of those raw skills, and perhaps hunger, either coached out of them, or hardly put into genuine use by their parent clubs, and hence have never really had the chance to perform and, consequently, have lost confidence or the edge that made them a talented youngster. I would include Harrop in this category, who has less than a year of life less than Alan Browne, yet has played only a fraction of the matches that Browne has completed. Talent aside, these two players are a gulf apart in terms of the edge, hunger, savvy and persistence of a professional player.
As in the case of Ben Pearson, who has fought through the dangers of his tenacity and short fuse to mature from the raw youth talent into a toughened adult player, once these young players get into the groove at a teamlikepreston, they are given the time and chances to allow their lost vigour and edge to re-emerge. None of this is down to their parent club, yet, when it comes down to it, these players will rarely go back and thank "teamslikepreston" (Beckham did, to his credit) for the crucial role in their development into a successful adult player, once they have departed Preston, with their confidence restored.

I am directly criticising the top flight clubs who enchant parents and their young children into the potential place in a premier league team, at a very young age, only to scrap heap the player until his 23rd birthday, by which time a raft of one' generation's top players have not had the chance to play adult professional football. This filters onto the terraces. It is stark to observe that at any one time in the football league, players as good as Matty James, Sam Johnstone and Harrop have been inactive professional footballers while far more mediocre talents are turning out week in week out. In terms of entertainment, this slice of perfectly fit and able, and entertaining players are being kept out of football by their parent clubs who are, essentially, fattening their youth players up like the cash cows they only ever intended them to be.
I remember Sam Johnstone interviewed after a brilliant season with North End. "Sam, do you want to re-sign for Preston for next season?" Sam replied "I still feel like a Manchester United player so I will probably not stay." He never played for Manchester, and, at 25, is currently playing for his 8th club.

Great post.

Will Keane, Chuks Aneke, Jeffrey Monakana, Stefan Mavididi and, following that trajectory I fear . . . Lukas Nmecha.

Reading through the posts, most of all I agree that he would probably have been better off at a L1 club this season; more game time, more of a ‘culture shock’ about senior football and more chance of scoring a goal or two.

Not sure North End will be beating down City’s door to get him back next season, based on what we’ve seen so far.
 
Thought he was good today. When he's good he's very good, but when he's having an off game he's very bad.

I think some people bigged him up just because he came from Man City. I think he's a very talented player, but right now he's very raw and lacks the ability to play 2 or 3 good games in a row.

I don't think he's in the Will Keane bracket either due to being a lot less experienced and not had the injuries Will suffered. I think whoever Nmecha goes on loan to next year will get the rewards of his loan spell with us, and he'll be at least a 10 goal a season Championship player.
 
Was very impressive today I thought.

Caused their defenders all sorts of problems from the minute he came on, challenging in the air, using his strength to hold the ball up, he was quick and worked hard defensively and attacking and of course set up the winning goal.

I thought all our players were superb today.
 
sf;n3410061 said:
Nmecha wide right, Barkhuizen down the left against Millwall?

Probably no other option, depending upon Barker's injury, until we sign someone in a few weeks.
 
He was better on the wing than Barker has been in recent games. With the attributes he already has at 19 he’s going to be an absolute animal of a forward in the future.
 
Schemer;n3410180 said:
Probably no other option, depending upon Barker's injury, until we sign someone in a few weeks.

4 games of Barky, Moult and Nmecha as our front 3. I genuinely have no idea what to expect
 
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