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Pearson - Absolute liability

Pearson - Absolute liability

wld said:
I’ve tried to understand but what?
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It's classic Billy Connolly mate.

Hard to defend Ben as he's clearly not learning to use his head. But I will say this, on the third minute of the game Ben Pearson was whacked late by one of the Leeds lads and left on the deck and then hobbling around holding his arm. The referee did nothing and the late challenge he received was exactly the same if not worse than what he got booked for. From that moment his snarling started, Alan Browne having to man handle him away from the ref at one point. As soon as that happens, the ref is watching him for retaliating. And with his reputation there's only one outcome.

I believe the league needs to start accepting appeals for yellow cards. During which you can ask the ref, why one guy is booked and another isn't. Yes it might be time consuming, but the EFL has literally billions of pounds. I'm sure a few extra staff to cover the work wouldn't hurt too much.

In real life we all know that this kind of incompetent inconsistency will continue and nothing will be done about it. Seems like sour grapes saying this when we've lost but in all honesty have we had more than two decent refs all season??
 
We need to forget about last nights game, stop blaming the refs and focus on how to sort Pearson out. He’s only damaging himself at the end of the day as no other club will touch him with his disciplinary record and he’s already earned himself a negative reputation with the officials so cards are bound to happen. AN or even the chairman needs to sit him down and lay into him a little or start by taking his wages (if that hasn’t happened already). Pearson is by far our best player and I certainly don’t want to see him sold but I can see the other side where people have had enough. It’s a tough one that needs to be treated with care.
 
Morning campers, Interesting stat for you:

The Championship player with the second-most bookings in the last three seasons is Birmingham's Maikel Kieftenbeld - with 28.

So, the guy with the SECOND-MOST bookings in the Championship over the last three years has had 28 bookings.

Pearson has has 43.
 
northender1881 said:
Morning campers, Interesting stat for you:

The Championship player with the second-most bookings in the last three seasons is Birmingham's Maikel Kieftenbeld - with 28.

So, the guy with the SECOND-MOST bookings in the Championship over the last three years has had 28 bookings.

Pearson has has 43.
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There you go then. A ready made replacement for Pearson. We'll just have to work on his soft side to get him up to Ben's standards.
 
Libertine said:
It's classic Billy Connolly mate.

Hard to defend Ben as he's clearly not learning to use his head. But I will say this, on the third minute of the game Ben Pearson was whacked late by one of the Leeds lads and left on the deck and then hobbling around holding his arm. The referee did nothing and the late challenge he received was exactly the same if not worse than what he got booked for. From that moment his snarling started, Alan Browne having to man handle him away from the ref at one point. As soon as that happens, the ref is watching him for retaliating. And with his reputation there's only one outcome.

I believe the league needs to start accepting appeals for yellow cards. During which you can ask the ref, why one guy is booked and another isn't. Yes it might be time consuming, but the EFL has literally billions of pounds. I'm sure a few extra staff to cover the work wouldn't hurt too much.

In real life we all know that this kind of incompetent inconsistency will continue and nothing will be done about it. Seems like sour grapes saying this when we've lost but in all honesty have we had more than two decent refs all season??
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I’m not sure that will happen, they would be inundated!

I do think referees should be answerable and explain their decisions. I can just about accept Pearson’s yellow card, I gave the referee grief at the time but I can see why he gave it - although I don’t agree with it. It was for the foul incidentally, not dissent as has been speculated. However, once he didn’t book the Leeds full back for a challenge twice as bad any understanding went out of the window.

The referee last night will be in the elite list very soon
 
Don't think he's fully fit. His timing looked a bit off.
He'd possibly be a bit calmer if the manager who was a bit more chilled. Both appear to get very pumped up and maybe its tipping Pearson over the edge.
They both have a strong desire to do well. AN is going to have to try and approach Pearson in a different way next season.
 
Pearson can be annoying as fuck but talk of getting rid of him is laughable.

Ledson is nowhere near his level and it remains to be seen whether he is Championship quality, while DJ, Gally and Browne could do his job and nor should they be asked to.

How many years did we go calling for a McKenna replacement? About 10?
 
Libertine said:
It's classic Billy Connolly mate.

Hard to defend Ben as he's clearly not learning to use his head. But I will say this, on the third minute of the game Ben Pearson was whacked late by one of the Leeds lads and left on the deck and then hobbling around holding his arm. The referee did nothing and the late challenge he received was exactly the same if not worse than what he got booked for. From that moment his snarling started, Alan Browne having to man handle him away from the ref at one point. As soon as that happens, the ref is watching him for retaliating. And with his reputation there's only one outcome.

I believe the league needs to start accepting appeals for yellow cards. During which you can ask the ref, why one guy is booked and another isn't. Yes it might be time consuming, but the EFL has literally billions of pounds. I'm sure a few extra staff to cover the work wouldn't hurt too much.

In real life we all know that this kind of incompetent inconsistency will continue and nothing will be done about it. Seems like sour grapes saying this when we've lost but in all honesty have we had more than two decent refs all season??
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The Football league are not going to change the rules of the game just because a few PNE fans think Ben Pearson gets picked on by refs. Once Pearson leaves PNE you won't give a stuff about it anyway.
 
PNEroulette said:
Don't think he's fully fit. His timing looked a bit off.
He'd possibly be a bit calmer if the manager who was a bit more chilled. Both appear to get very pumped up and maybe its tipping Pearson over the edge.
They both have a strong desire to do well. AN is going to have to try and approach Pearson in a different way next season.
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Well, that's two more excuses for Pearson. Lack of fitness, and the manager.
 
The guy is a winner aka Roy Keane....HIS MINDSET WILL BE TO WIN HIS BATTLES. He plays in the most important part of the team, midfield .Win control of midfield and you should win a game. The only issue I would have with him is the verbal issues that get him booked. Tackles are not an issue. There will be plenty of clubs who would love to have him in there club.
 
PNEJack said:
Well why don't we give Michael Johnson a chance then
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The two are not the same, Michael Johnson for all his talent chose a completely different path than Ledson and Pearson, he chose the comfort of the Premier league and the subs bench rather than the grind of the lower leagues. Similar scenario with Rodwell. With Pearson's determination in Rodwell or Johnson England could have had two excellent players there.
 
PNEJack said:
Maybe, although I don't see the potential like I did in Browne and Brownhill
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Don't forget Pearson was slated when he first joined for not being able to tackle, run, pass, win a header etc etc and I think he was a similar age to Ledston now. Maybe Ledson just needs a run of games or a one off game like Pearson's performance vs Bournemouth away to really boost his confidence and propel him into the side.
 
Parkin Ate My _ said:
The guy is a winner aka Roy Keane....HIS MINDSET WILL BE TO WIN HIS BATTLES. He plays in the most important part of the team, midfield .Win control of midfield and you should win a game. The only issue I would have with him is the verbal issues that get him booked. Tackles are not an issue. There will be plenty of clubs who would love to have him in there club.
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Unfortunately he should have learnt by now that he can't win his battles or influence the game whilst sat with his finger up his bum in the dressing room/in the stands and the opposition are swamping us because of his stupidity.
 
Dirty Harry said:
The Football league are not going to change the rules of the game just because a few PNE fans think Ben Pearson gets picked on by refs. Once Pearson leaves PNE you won't give a stuff about it anyway.
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You're wrong. I have thought for a very long time that yellow cards should be open to appeal.
And long after Pearson leaves I'll think the same.

They seem to be able to cope with it in the Scottish pub league.

Hearts striker Uche Ikpeazu has yellow card rescinded on appeal
by Press Association
03/04/2019, 1:34 pm
The 24-year-old was booked by referee John Beaton during Saturday’s 2-1 Scottish Premiership win over Aberdeen at Tynecastle.
Television replays showed there was contact between Ikpeazu and Dons goalkeeper Joe Lewis, prompting an appeal from Hearts.
The Scottish FA announced on its website that the appeal for a wrongful caution has been upheld and the booking overturned.
 
Lee Trundle said:
What?

He eats up space in the middle of the park and dispossesses people regularly. Forces the opposition to turn over the ball with his relentless pressing. Worth noting that before he was a pillock and got sent off, he had stood up Tyler Roberts and dispossessed him twice.

Team leader in turnovers over the last three seasons and apparently he can’t tackle. State of this forum sometimes
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You sound like you know what you're talking about. However, Pearson's 3 red cards this season alone, along with his numerous bookings and suspensions suggests otherwise. I rest my case.
 
Morse said:
You sound like you know what you're talking about. However, Pearson's 3 red cards this season alone, along with his numerous bookings and suspensions suggests otherwise. I rest my case.
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Look at the reds in isolation. The follow through tackle was the same as the one that Ayala got off with on appeal.
The one against Bolton he shouldn't have got involved, but subsequent footage showed that picture of the bite from the Bolton lad. Who wouldn't react to that?
And last night, he made an awful decision, but shouldn't have really been put in that situation by Ben Davies.
The most ridiculous of his last three cards was Saturdays for pissing about with the ball on a free kick.

I agree with others who've said this lad needs to visit a sports psychologist. Referees are strange people there's no denying it, who else would want to do that job, the thing is at any level be nice to them, massage their ego a bit and you'll be given leeway. Robbie Savage used to virtually referee the game himself whilst getting away with all sorts. Why? because he didn't run around snarling like a Tasmanian devil.
 
One more yellow when he comes back and hes banned for another 3 games, that will be 16 games missed, I think 2 might run in to next season.
 
I agree that something needs to be done. I do think he gets a rough ride from some referees because of his reputation (and he definitely doesn't help himself either).

But it has to be accepted that, deserved or not, his reputation is what it is now and he needs to become a lot lot better at dealing with it.

Obviously a combative player is going to pick up cards but he needs to get cleverer in working out the risk/reward of some tackles and stop the back chat.

Getting down to less than 10 yellows a season would be a start and should be very much achievable with a bit of common sense from him and the management.
 
simo said:
I agree that something needs to be done. I do think he gets a rough ride from some referees because of his reputation (and he definitely doesn't help himself either).

But it has to be accepted that, deserved or not, his reputation is what it is now and he needs to become a lot lot better at dealing with it.

Obviously a combative player is going to pick up cards but he needs to get cleverer in working out the risk/reward of some tackles and stop the back chat.

Getting down to less than 10 yellows a season would be a start and should be very much achievable with a bit of common sense from him and the management.
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Great post
His reputation
as in you own your reputation, you can keep it, change it, mature it or whatever you so choose to do
people judge you on it so Mr Pearson is being either fairly or unfairly judged or put another way unconscious bias
its down to the individual and the individual alone to address
 
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