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Observations from PNE fans are being passed to SYP via Lancs Police (Would not expect a response).

The FSA will also be looking into this and contacting all relevant parties.

Probably won't change anything but as Barnsley fans themselves have mentioned this was not a isolated incident with SYP seeming to treat policing at Barnsley different to any other club or force in England.
 
JK said:
Observations from PNE fans are being passed to SYP via Lancs Police (Would not expect a response).

The FSA will also be looking into this and contacting all relevant parties.

Probably won't change anything but as Barnsley fans themselves have mentioned this was not a isolated incident with SYP seeming to treat policing at Barnsley different to any other club or force in England.
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Barnsley FC need to get involved too, this type of Policing must be costing the club and local businesses a hell of a lot of money.
 
13th Dec 1994

We played Walsall away in an FA cup replay, we were awful and we got stuffed 4-0.

PNE fans were feeling rock bottom, slumped heads, hands in pockets. The final whistle came as sweet relief and we all filed dejectedly out of the ground. All quiet no trouble. Most filed off towards the awaiting coaches a few of us went the other way towards where our cars were parked.

My mate and I got close to where our car was and a couple of absolute thugs, in fancy dress, dressed as WM Police layed into us and demanded we headed back to where the coaches were parked. We pointed to our car, 10 yards away, to bet met with foul mouthed abuse and thuggery, I felt something hit me hard in the back.

That was basically the end of my following PNE away.

I mention this because reading this and other threads about how our fans were treated brought back memories of the absolute crap that footy fans have had to put up with for way too long.

Its time all this nonsense stopped and footy fans were treated with the same type of respect that followers of other Sports are shown.
 
more on an issue for us, bearing in mind I usually have a disabled child with me, was the road closures making it virtually impossible to find a route to the away fans car park..... after a few turn back diversions we ended up heading away from the ground to the Civic Hall car park area..... this meant a 20 minute walk to the ground, past all the lovely police and railway police. a walk my disabled child couldnt have made had we brought her.....

I have told Barnsley FC that their away fans section of their website (which I had checked last week for the satnav code) told us "this is where it is but dont bother trying to find it!!".

the road closures were nothing to do with the police though... those are at the whim of the local council every home game
 
The worst thing is SYP will see the entire operation as a success as it didn't kick off.

Can't see anything changing going forward.
 
MrHodgeheg123 said:
In some instances, I still think parenting (or lack of ) has a lot to do with it.
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They are adults
They plough their own furrows and cut their own cloth
I’d be brave enough to suggest their parents are all probably as good as any amongst us.
As good as medical research is in this modern world it is still working very hard to find a cure for being utterly thick
Which is why we are are all struggling to get it on here, too much intelligence i suspect
 
Ando60 said:
I went to Barnsley on Gentry Day in 2013 and I must admit that the behaviour of some of our fans was very bad on that occasion…

A lot of drunkeness and a lot of anti-social activity, maybe that reputation has stuck with us.
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Yeah, I agree it wasn't pretty that day, and it could still be in their minds. Saturday was an absolute joke though. You'd have thought SYP might have learned about funnelling fans into tight spaces and not delaying kick off.
 
Cadleywhite said:
 Definitely think earlier planning for Gentry Day next season needs to happen.
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Does it have to be at one of the last three or four Away Games, though ?

As its focus is For / In Memory of those Fans/Family etc that are No Longer with Us,
- why not have it at Christmas/New Year's Time? Auld Lang syne?
'Should old aqaintance be forgot'
 
noelpne said:
Does it have to be at one of the last three or four Away Games, though ?

As its focus is For / In Memory of those Fans/Family etc that are No Longer with Us,
- why not have it at Christmas/New Year's Time? Auld Lang syne?
'Should old aqaintance be forgot'
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This debate rumbles on every year but the general rule is that it will be in March. Some years the fixtures fall kindly but next season it's likely to be another difficult one due to the world cup taking up around a month so there'll be more midweek fixtures. So whilst on fixture release date we might see something like Watford away on the 14th March 2023 which would look like an ideal fixture to have it - closer inspection will show that that's a Tuesday night.
 
NIGHTMARE said:
It’s all about revenue raising, South Yorkshire plod see Barnsley Football Club as a way of making money.
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But there's Not Usually any trouble with PNE fans at Oakwell.

SYP cover the Sheffield area too....and no probs. for PNE fans there, & that's right in the City Centre, ( unlike Oakwell ).

What's it like when you've played t'other Yorkshire clubs at Home? Is it a Massive Plod Presence ?
 
noelpne said:
But there's Not Usually any trouble with PNE fans at Oakwell.

SYP cover the Sheffield area too....and no probs. for PNE fans there, & that's right in the City Centre, ( unlike Oakwell ).

What's it like when you've played t'other Yorkshire clubs at Home? Is it a Massive Plod Presence ?
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I think you’re taking this over the top policing personally when in my opinion it didn’t really concern you. Last summer the clubs owners failed to replace the departing ceo quickly enough to address the recruitment frailties in time for the new season, they also failed to find suitable replacements for our departing head coach and captain, they dragged their feet refunding people for season tickets they were unable to use, the stadiums failing to bits, they’re involved in a tit for tat argument with the grounds owners and have threatened on a number of occasions to move to a different town. We’ve also just had one of the worst seasons on the pitch for many a year, a number of different fan groups have launched half hearted demonstrations against the clubs owners, which have resulted in violence and infighting amongst supporters, and a lot of anger as been directed at club staff and fellow fans. I believe that with Saturday being our last home game, the police anticipated trouble, so they turned up in numbers, and made the game an early kick off to restrict the chances of alcohol and class A’s playing a part in any trouble that may have occurred.
I don’t think us playing PNE played any part in the actions SYP took on Saturday I think it would have been policed the same way no matter who we play.
 
noelpne said:
But there's Not Usually any trouble with PNE fans at Oakwell.

SYP cover the Sheffield area too....and no probs. for PNE fans there, & that's right in the City Centre, ( unlike Oakwell ).

What's it like when you've played t'other Yorkshire clubs at Home? Is it a Massive Plod Presence ?
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I post on another forum and from what I can gather from Sheff Utd fans on there is that going OTT is a regular occurrence with SYP.
 
NIGHTMARE said:
I think you’re taking this over the top policing personally when in my opinion it didn’t really concern you. Last summer the clubs owners failed to replace the departing ceo quickly enough to address the recruitment frailties in time for the new season, they also failed to find suitable replacements for our departing head coach and captain, they dragged their feet refunding people for season tickets they were unable to use, the stadiums failing to bits, they’re involved in a tit for tat argument with the grounds owners and have threatened on a number of occasions to move to a different town. We’ve also just had one of the worst seasons on the pitch for many a year, a number of different fan groups have launched half hearted demonstrations against the clubs owners, which have resulted in violence and infighting amongst supporters, and a lot of anger as been directed at club staff and fellow fans. I believe that with Saturday being our last home game, the police anticipated trouble, so they turned up in numbers, and made the game an early kick off to restrict the chances of alcohol and class A’s playing a part in any trouble that may have occurred.
I don’t think us playing PNE played any part in the actions SYP took on Saturday I think it would have been policed the same way no matter who we play.
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Fair comments and they were trying to stop you lot rioting.............. Then why did plod board the PNE trains in, why did they insist on going in the bogs with those wanting a pee on said trains, take yonks to frisk everyone before going in , ensure loads were late..... and confiscate my daughters deodarant?......... For fucks sake... " Didn't concern you " my arse...
 
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