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PNE's top table problem

PNE's top table problem

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If I bought a shinny new car and one day a wheel dropped off (I knew my spare had a puncture before I set off) and I replaced it with a cheap pram wheel, then the next day the exhaust fell off and I used a bit of drainpipe as a repair, because the wife wouldn't give me the funds for a proper fix, would I expect the motor to run properly?

Well this is what is happening at Bargain basement shoppers PNE, 'Old father time' has caught up with us.

The rest of the Championship has moved forward, the dinosaurs at PNE's top table have missed the boat again.

But don't worry, we can be a league 1 club without debt, that TH will have to fund an extra £5m due to the TV money drop.

Fix the problems, the rest of he journey looks after it's self.
 
If I bought a shinny new car and one day a wheel dropped off (I knew my spare had a puncture before I set off) and I replaced it with a cheap pram wheel, then the next day the exhaust fell off and I used a bit of drainpipe as a repair, because the wife wouldn't give me the funds for a proper fix, would I expect the motor to run properly?

Well this is what is happening at Bargain basement shoppers PNE, 'Old father time' has caught up with us.

The rest of the Championship has moved forward, the dinosaurs at PNE's top table have missed the boat again.

But don't worry, we can be a league 1 club without debt, that TH will have to fund an extra £5m due to the TV money drop.

Fix the problems, the rest of he journey looks after it's self.

A lovely analogy for what's happening. The thing is, it wouldn't even be an issue for us if his top-grade Pirelli tyres were replaced by some used Michelin ones that need a little bit of inflating to reach their full potential. As long as we got something new in that could do the job in a way similar to the old wheel and not all of the money needs to be spent in order for the problem to be addressed.

Moore would have been £2m. Hugill brought us in around £8m. This isn't particularly demanding when you see the money being chucked around by some in the league. We've been shortchanged and now we'll face the consequences.
 
Why is everyone so blinkerd to see the style of play and coaching has just as much to do with our poor start ? We are going balls out Gung Ho every game and we have been found out , and a manager that doesnt know his best 11 ??? Yes we should have strenghtend but we didnt , so its AN over to you bud , make it work , make it ugly , just find a way to make it work.

I dont get the AN bubble ? Do I want him sacked , no of course not , but he is not going to be backed with funds so he either gets this group of players playing and makes us harder to beat or he will ultimatley lose his job.
 
Putting analogies aside the biggest change for me was the mood from top table between February and September.

In February I left feeling very positive about the club, totally convinced this was going to be our time. The whole table were positive about the club. We had just sold Hugill but still, everything was rosy including a shiny new training ground to look forward to.

September, what changed? We got told we can’t compete with Wigan, let alone anyone else. The mood was completely downbeat the polar opposite to February’s forum. Despite £10m in sales for players we still needed £7m to see us through. We got told our players had a value of £77m but I doubt anyone would pay £770 for the shower we have witnessed so far. Why were they independently valued anyway? The training ground is even unclear now.

The only things that changed were the sale of Cunningham and the planning permission being granted. Call me synical but I’m sure something is going on, and I’m not sure we are going to like it when we find out.
 
Would TH let one of his beloved horses go without new shoes or a custom saddle or new jockey to win the Grand National ? Would he make do explaining that he already pays for the horses hay and stabling ? Would he feck..
 
Would TH let one of his beloved horses go without new shoes or a custom saddle or new jockey to win the Grand National ? Would he make do explaining that he already pays for the horses hay and stabling ? Would he feck..

I like this one too.
 
Just looking through Saturdays and last nights results & scorers and its quite telling to see who scored. A lot of players who were signed in the last window such as Afobe, Abraham, Bolasie, Kayden Jackson, Windass, Dwight Gayle etc are off the mark and looking like good signings. I cant think of any of ours who have made any kind of impact at all
 
Just looking through Saturdays and last nights results & scorers and its quite telling to see who scored. A lot of players who were signed in the last window such as Afobe, Abraham, Bolasie, Kayden Jackson, Windass, Dwight Gayle etc are off the mark and looking like good signings. I cant think of any of ours who have made any kind of impact at all

You seem to be judging that they're good signings from the fact that they've scored... Burke is off the mark, does that make him a good signing?

I don't think putting Jackson and Windass - who both played in the not-so-distant past for Accrington in L2 - in the same category as a £12m player, a £25m player and two strikers who've both scored 20 goals plus in the Premier League is exactly fair, either.
 
Would TH let one of his beloved horses go without new shoes or a custom saddle or new jockey to win the Grand National ? Would he make do explaining that he already pays for the horses hay and stabling ? Would he feck..

That's because he's 100% a horses man and 100% not a football man
 
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Thing is we didn't buy a shiny new car. We built one piece by piece on a couple of old parts we had in the garage. And we managed to keep it ticking along nicely with all these mismatched, cheap parts.

So why would our car owner suddenly think they need to buy a brand new part direct from Ferrari when his car has been chugging along just fine with cheap imports, refurbished wheels and such?
 
Thing is we didn't buy a shiny new car. We built one piece by piece on a couple of old parts we had in the garage. And we managed to keep it ticking along nicely with all these mismatched, cheap parts.

So why would our car owner suddenly think they need to buy a brand new part direct from Ferrari when his car has been chugging along just fine with cheap imports, refurbished wheels and such?

No serious ambition to upgrade the model......
 
I would love TH to spend more on players, but that hasn't happened, and we are where we are. We don't get another go at spending (apart from out of contract players) until January. So we need to get on with it.

This is NOT news to AN and the players, we have what we all thought was a deeper squad than we had last season, and AN has admitted he doesn't know his best team.

It seems clear to me that he doesn't know his worst one either!

Given that we can't change the squad, we should be trying to improve physically and tactically and work even better than last year as a team. From what I can see we are going backwards tactically and at times look as though we don't know each other. A sure sign of a club in turmoil.

I understand that players can lose form, and that we have had some stupid suspensions, BUT that will and does happen every season. While we have created chances with the gungho approach, also seen by others, we have looked dreadful at times in, almost if not, all of our league matches so far this season.

What's the cause?

I remember feeling the same when Ferguson, Westley, Brown and Simpson were in charge.

Seems like we have to score at least 3 to get a draw out of a game at the moment, and that ain't going to happen very often.

Please, AN, come up with an approach, tactics and team selection, that sorts out our defence, like we had for significant parts of last season, and then worry about getting the ball in the back of the net.

Last season, if/when we conceded, you always felt that we had a good chance of getting back into the game. Now you can see several of the heads drop.

A number of the managers listed above weren't for changing, and they paid the price with their jobs. I hope that AN doesn't go the same way, but my current expectations are quite low.

In other seasons we have either started badly, or had bad patches, but I don't think we have looked so poor since we were last relegated, and I just can't see us getting out of it, without radical changes.

I can't believe that no-one asked how we were going to address our current form at the forum earlier in the week, but given the insipid answers to the other questions, it probably wasn't worth it.

I will continue to give my support at the games (and I do not or will not boo) but i am losing faith in the manager and coaching staff.

Let's hope he can turn it around and quickly.
 
If I bought a shinny new car and one day a wheel dropped off (I knew my spare had a puncture before I set off) and I replaced it with a cheap pram wheel, then the next day the exhaust fell off and I used a bit of drainpipe as a repair, because the wife wouldn't give me the funds for a proper fix, would I expect the motor to run properly?

Well this is what is happening at Bargain basement shoppers PNE, 'Old father time' has caught up with us.

The rest of the Championship has moved forward, the dinosaurs at PNE's top table have missed the boat again.

But don't worry, we can be a league 1 club without debt, that TH will have to fund an extra £5m due to the TV money drop.

Fix the problems, the rest of he journey looks after it's self.

Good post mon.
 
Putting analogies aside the biggest change for me was the mood from top table between February and September.

In February I left feeling very positive about the club, totally convinced this was going to be our time. The whole table were positive about the club. We had just sold Hugill but still, everything was rosy including a shiny new training ground to look forward to.

September, what changed? We got told we can’t compete with Wigan, let alone anyone else. The mood was completely downbeat the polar opposite to February’s forum. Despite £10m in sales for players we still needed £7m to see us through. We got told our players had a value of £77m but I doubt anyone would pay £770 for the shower we have witnessed so far. Why were they independently valued anyway? The training ground is even unclear now.

The only things that changed were the sale of Cunningham and the planning permission being granted. Call me synical but I’m sure something is going on, and I’m not sure we are going to like it when we find out.

This pretty much sums up what I thought, something has definitely changed.
It was fairly obvious from the body language of the panel. PR was going to field all questions if he could as John Kay had obviously missed the briefing!
The only new announcement was the Alice in Wonderland value of the players which of course Is nonsense if we get relegated!
The training ground, the less said the better, I think there needs to be an urgent statement for clarification.
 
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