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Poppies
We wore them our last home game and I assume we will wear them against Bristol next week. There is far too much made in this country about the poppy thing. There will be a decent explanation (Probably about the data trackers as with Browne last year)
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PNE put on a very commendable memorial service last week, didn't they?
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paddysr;n3400029 said:
Last week we remembered in a very fitting way the men of our football club who died in the First World War.
I don’t want to argue but if the club knew that Ipswich were going to mark the act of remembering then we should have worn the Poppy.
As I said on the other thread I don’t think we could ever do too much to remember.
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Yoowell;n3400026 said:
Just because someone chooses to wear a poppy it doesn’t mean they ‘remember better’ the sacrifices made than someone who chooses not to. The donation to RBL is always a good thing to do, but wearing a poppy doesn’t automatically make you a good person.
Everyone remembers and gives thanks in their own way, the poppy has become the most popular way to do so. That doesn’t mean it is the only way to do so
Lee Trundle;n3400034 said:
The problem a lot of people have is that the Poppy is no longer just representative of the Great War and instead serves as a fund raising device in support of all military action by the British forces. For some people to wear one suggests support for the military action is places such as Iraq, Ireland, Diego Garcia and others. To abstain from wearing one does not signify that they do not wish to show a lack of remembrance for those who gave their lives in WW1 but simply that they do not support some of the actions taken since then.
Who are we to judge how somebody else shows their respect?
The only thing I would say is that the poppy doesn’t represent the politicians that take our country into wars that some even most people don’t agree with, its more about the brave soldiers that have to do their duty, follow the orders and are killed and maimed in the process. JMHO.
I wonder if the poppies were on the green shirts and and the white shirts and maybe the kit man, who we know so well, could break his silence and give us the low down? You don’t think he packed the wrong shirts do you? 🙂
I wonder if the poppies were on the green shirts and and the white shirts and maybe the kit man, who we know so well, could break his silence and give us the low down? You don’t think he packed the wrong shirts do you? 🙂
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paddysr;n3400035 said:
Not for anyone I've ever met it doesn't.....
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Regardless;n3399983 said:
Firstly that is a very silly comment from the Ipswich fan.
Preston North End now have a permament memorial at Deepdale and the club should be commended for what we did last week.
With regards the Poppies.
We had them on our home shirts last week which will then be autioned off at a later date for the Royal British Legion.
I would suspect the reason we didn't have them on our away shirts yesterday was for financial reasons as the management at the club work on a very tight budjet as set by the owner and to write off 42 shirts would probably hit the budjet, you have to remember that PNE need to get everything from a paper clip to a new player clip accounted for.
All that said I think last week proved the clubs views and should be applauded, we toook part in a miniute silence then, at Ipswich and will do next week at Bristol.
As nice as it would have been to see the poppy on shirt yesterday it is not something I would berate the owner/club about as there are plenty of other things that need addressing in the grand scheme of things.
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Remembrance and Poppy Day is a very emotive issue and we have ex forces members as posters. I do think we should all be allowed to remember or grieve in our own way without too much criticism from others who might want to do things differently.
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Well said Harry. As for me I always thought that the wearing of the poppy was a show of respect for those who gave their lives no matter why we went to war, even if it was an unlawful war. I have great uncles who gave their lives in WW1, a very good friend who lost his life at the battle for the Falklands and it was/is the orinary person who is willing to sacrifice their lives for our freedom and I will always respect them and remember them by wearing a poppy.
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Chip Barm;n3400086 said:
Not disputing what you are saying but in contrast to players earning ten grand a week that isn't much of an argument..Neither is the claim that they'd be " written off " ... They can be removed with a bit of solvent spray you know. 🙂
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I only wear a poppy on rememberence sunday.
The wearing of a poppy is about each individual remembering, A) family memberswho they lost in the Wars and B) remembering all the service personnel who died in order for us to have this conversation freely.
Im actually not very keen, if Im honest, on the way that this is being hijacked by football and slowly but surely being turned into a, "I can can Piss higher than you," contest.
Id love to know how many of those grumling at those not wearing one will actually get out of their beds and go to a memorial service?
Thats what its about IMHO.
The wearing of a poppy is about each individual remembering, A) family memberswho they lost in the Wars and B) remembering all the service personnel who died in order for us to have this conversation freely.
Im actually not very keen, if Im honest, on the way that this is being hijacked by football and slowly but surely being turned into a, "I can can Piss higher than you," contest.
Id love to know how many of those grumling at those not wearing one will actually get out of their beds and go to a memorial service?
Thats what its about IMHO.
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raefil;n3400156 said:
It really shouldn't be hijacked by anyone.... White ones, rainbow ones, pink ones, commercial ones.
Do your own thing please and let those that want to rememeber the dead do so....
Fair enough?
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Liberation;n3400152 said:
You are of course implying that footballers pay for their own shirts, which they don’t. In fact many clubs including North End have fined players the costs of shirts when they have thrown or given them away.