Pre-contracts
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They play, and play regularly without fear as we desperately need them.
Reinvestment of funds isn't a given at our club is it, let's not kid ourselves for a moment. So not getting £xM for me as a supporter is irrelevant really, it's not like we are fully invested in the development of our individually talented players with a clear reward of sell-on funds being released for reinvestment. So I've always wanted the best players playing for pne for as long as possible as I would rather watch them in a north end shirt than take some false glow from knowing we got a few mil then yet again watch in pure desperation as reinvestment or clear strategy is not forthcoming.
Them going for nothing is not a problem from a pure supporting the football team perspective, it is a problem from a club management and leadership perspective for which a monumental fuck up has occurred.
My fear is that the Scottish giants, cause for all the mocking of that league they are when compared to us in the championship, won't be just happy with picking off our best talent for fuck all but they'll need someone who knows that core well also and maybe they'll want a new manager at some point in the future too.
Reinvestment of funds isn't a given at our club is it, let's not kid ourselves for a moment. So not getting £xM for me as a supporter is irrelevant really, it's not like we are fully invested in the development of our individually talented players with a clear reward of sell-on funds being released for reinvestment. So I've always wanted the best players playing for pne for as long as possible as I would rather watch them in a north end shirt than take some false glow from knowing we got a few mil then yet again watch in pure desperation as reinvestment or clear strategy is not forthcoming.
Them going for nothing is not a problem from a pure supporting the football team perspective, it is a problem from a club management and leadership perspective for which a monumental fuck up has occurred.
My fear is that the Scottish giants, cause for all the mocking of that league they are when compared to us in the championship, won't be just happy with picking off our best talent for fuck all but they'll need someone who knows that core well also and maybe they'll want a new manager at some point in the future too.
They will arguably fear injury less if they've signed a pre-contract elsewhere.
Their future will be settled and contracts signed.
I've been reading this thread just like Paul Whitehouse's 'Indecisive Man' character from The Fast Show 😂 🤔🤦♂️
I read every thread like rowley birkin QC
Basically a capture of a recruitment meeting at PNE ?
Ha ha, seems that way!
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The poll is very black and white, we obviously aren’t going to freeze them out but i wouldn’t start them at the expense of others either. Ledson Potts etc take priority over DJ and Pearson if they are off in Summer.
We get to March and are comfortable are they really going to have the heart for a mid table battle, I can’t see it.
We get to March and are comfortable are they really going to have the heart for a mid table battle, I can’t see it.
Given the clubs owners model for the club and the constant harping on about how well run we are, they have....
1. Gone against that model by letting those contracts get to the last 12 months without doing anything thus resulting in millions of pounds being lost and given our existing record of not reinvesting money back into the squad and this not likely to change due to covid, then I really fear for us.
2. Dont get your hopes up about not signing pre contracts so hopefully we get a fee in January.
Why would players not sign pre contracts?
They can use this as a way of getting more for a signing on fee as what ever poultry fee would be agreed between the 2 clubs is used instead to get a bigger sign on fee. Power to the player.
The club can never ever come back out and say we are well run, we paid all our players bla, bla, bla.
You have just shit the best part of 20+ million up the wall that to me is not a WELL RUN CLUB.
Hemmings and especially the tosser of an advisor Fuck off out this club.
1. Gone against that model by letting those contracts get to the last 12 months without doing anything thus resulting in millions of pounds being lost and given our existing record of not reinvesting money back into the squad and this not likely to change due to covid, then I really fear for us.
2. Dont get your hopes up about not signing pre contracts so hopefully we get a fee in January.
Why would players not sign pre contracts?
They can use this as a way of getting more for a signing on fee as what ever poultry fee would be agreed between the 2 clubs is used instead to get a bigger sign on fee. Power to the player.
The club can never ever come back out and say we are well run, we paid all our players bla, bla, bla.
You have just shit the best part of 20+ million up the wall that to me is not a WELL RUN CLUB.
Hemmings and especially the tosser of an advisor Fuck off out this club.
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It's not often I sit on the fence but I'm genuinely conflicted. Part of me wants to say play them twice a week and don't worry if they pick up injuries from being overplayed. Another part of me says send them to Accrington to train on their own, never to put on a PNE shirt again.
On balance though, the manager needs to be pragmatic and always pick what he considers his best side, the rest is really up to TH and PR.
On balance though, the manager needs to be pragmatic and always pick what he considers his best side, the rest is really up to TH and PR.
Not so sure about that.... some of them can barely wipe their arse alone, especially if they've come through a big club youth setup.
I would think that a pre contract agreement is just an agreement to sign an agreed contract and it would have get out clauses on both sides.
It covers a long six months where anything can happen.
If a player gets a Moult style 18 month injury the club could pull out, if the club goes into admin and can’t pay wages I would have thought the player would have a get out clause to cover himself in these circumstances.
This would make sense to me, maybe someone has real facts on how they work?
It covers a long six months where anything can happen.
If a player gets a Moult style 18 month injury the club could pull out, if the club goes into admin and can’t pay wages I would have thought the player would have a get out clause to cover himself in these circumstances.
This would make sense to me, maybe someone has real facts on how they work?
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Who is suppose to be signing a pre contract and with who? If we are taking Celtic and Rangers who could be very close in a title challenge if Celtic win today then why not let them have their deal in the summer if going anyway for free but tie them in to some loan for the remainder of the season and try and capitalise on some fee at least
A few years ago when Pne had no match I used to go to Accy Stanley with a mate who supported them and was impressed with Josh Windass and Matt Crookes. In January they both signed pre contracts with Rangers and think they continued to play for Stanley till they’d run their contracts down. Both in the Championship now with Wednesday and Rotherham having struggled to hold down a regular place for the Scottish giants. It was a big jump for them from Division Two, whereas Davies and Pearson would be straight in, I would think.
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Just talking about myself really. Had a five month notice period once and whilst I didn't exactly have my feet on the desk for a lot of it, I didn't put as much in. I was adequate but I definitely slowed down my work rate.
It was weird. Didn't mean to behave in that way, it just doesn't carry as much importance and I think your subconscious kicks in