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NORTHENDRTOPS 2 said:
I would have thought that one of our first ways forward would be to talk with people who got rid of Ridsdale before, like the Leeds supporters who were just as angry as we are, or other clubs who saw him for what he is. Leeds, Barnsley, Cardiff and Plymouth. I've said for a long time that Ridsdale is the main problem, he listens to nobody and is not the right guy to save this club.
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Ridsdale is the right guy to get PNE relegated and into the Wilderness of L2. And then ride off into the Sunset with a comfortable pension.😣

Yours is a really good idea, imo.
Let's compare Supporters notes.
 
Thewhites. said:
The thing that disturbs me above all else is that I can’t see a viable exit strategy. Maybe they are holding out for the £30m but it’s not going to happen. Maybe in reality they’d accept a lot less than that.
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By asking for that much, they're failing to realise that only nutters would pay that amount. I don't believe the Hemmings family would want to sell to someone completely deranged but by having that asking price, they're scaring off any potential owners they might actually sell to
 
davelock said:
Very unkind but, I suppose, it makes you feel powerful. I know people who have gone to see him and he will talk to you. Whats wrong with that ?
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I believe this, Dave.
Peter Ridsdale is a businessman with a long, personally successful track record in relation to his own wealth, family, properties etc etc .
He knows how to express his views and he knows who / which group of people butter his bread, and his brief is to run one of their businesses and keep that business in the black. So far, so financial. I haven't written about football in relation to wages,players, transfers, contracts.
One can be successfully financial in football yet know minimal knowledge of the game, the players, transfers, contracts.

I believe that PR knows an inadequate knowledge of the game, but has a good grasp of pure finance. That's not good enough for a Club the size and income of PNE.

Simplistically Dave, the guy "talks a good game" but that's it.
He'd run rings with 90% of most people he sees on a 1 to 1.

Sheesh , Leeds. Cardiff. Barnsley. Plymouth.

The guy can convince a lot of the people , a lot of the time . He's even convinced someone so astute as Trevor Hemmings - now I'd have thought at least he'd have looked at the guys Track Record .


A one on one with Trevor?

If Alan Sugar was a lifelong PNE supporter, maybe.
 
I've been out tonight, just got back and have only skimmed through this thread..

This is so ironic given all the shit we gave the Lashers when they doing silly demonstrations to get rid of the Oysters.

Fact is, the Hemmings family have funded the club with countless millions of their own money over the years (mostly Trevor of course) and we should be grateful for that.

They could be looking to sell for all we know but probably at an unrealistic price.

The message for me needs to be "sell our club to someone who wants us and is prepared to invest" and that should be at any price. I don't know how to get that message across but I don't believe that an aggressive demonstration is and I personally would play no part in anything like that.

Ridsdale is irrelevant in that if we get new owners he'd be out anyway.
 
noelpne said:
I believe this, Dave.
Peter Ridsdale is a businessman with a long, personally successful track record in relation to his own wealth, family, properties etc etc .
He knows how to express his views and he knows who / which group of people butter his bread, and his brief is to run one of their businesses and keep that business in the black. So far, so financial. I haven't written about football in relation to wages,players, transfers, contracts.
One can be successfully financial in football yet know minimal knowledge of the game, the players, transfers, contracts.

I believe that PR knows an inadequate knowledge of the game, but has a good grasp of pure finance. That's not good enough for a Club the size and income of PNE.

Simplistically Dave, the guy "talks a good game" but that's it.
He'd run rings with 90% of most people he sees on a 1 to 1.

Sheesh , Leeds. Cardiff. Barnsley. Plymouth.

The guy can convince a lot of the people , a lot of the time . He's even convinced someone so astute as Trevor Hemmings - now I'd have thought at least he'd have looked at the guys Track Record .


A one on one with Trevor?

If Alan Sugar was a lifelong PNE supporter, maybe.
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I dont necessarily disagree with a lot of this. I am not hear to defend PR as such but the aggressive words used by people who, if they met him would not behave that way, is cowardly. We are better than this.
 
LostinSpace said:
I've been out tonight, just got back and have only skimmed through this thread..

This is so ironic given all the shit we gave the Lashers when they doing silly demonstrations to get rid of the Oysters.

Fact is, the Hemmings family have funded the club with countless millions of their own money over the years (mostly Trevor of course) and we should be grateful for that.

They could be looking to sell for all we know but probably at an unrealistic price.

The message for me needs to be "sell our club to someone who wants us and is prepared to invest" and that should be at any price. I don't know how to get that message across but I don't believe that an aggressive demonstration is and I personally would play no part in anything like that.

Ridsdale is irrelevant in that if we get new owners he'd be out anyway.
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God knows what's going to happen, Takeovers can take months to process and currently the assets in this squad just wont attract a lot of buyers, that is just simple facts. Whether Hemmings has actually thought this through i really do not know but with some of these players at the minute they just don't impress any potential buyers for me.
 
davelock said:
I dont necessarily disagree with a lot of this. I am not hear to defend PR as such but the aggressive words used by people who, if they met him would not behave that way, is cowardly. We are better than this.
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You like to assume alot about people you've never met nor know anything about, bloody wind up merchant like yer mate Risdale
 
Loweball said:
God knows what's going to happen, Takeovers can take months to process and currently the assets in this squad just wont attract a lot of buyers, that is just simple facts. Whether Hemmings has actually thought this through i really do not know but with some of these players at the minute they just don't impress any potential buyers for me.
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Nope, the only “asset” we have is Championship status.
 
Peters inner thoughts when he invites people to waste their time contacting him...
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Oh Hughie Costello said:
Would Mark Lawrenson be up to date with the ins & outs of the off the pitch dealings? The majority of fans who attend Deepdale are still expecting the Hemmings family to "do a Jack Walker" once the prodigal son (they're not sure what his name is but they're assuming it's not Craig) gets his hands on the family billions.

He's also of the generation who mainly say it was worse in the 80s when we nearly went out of the football league so they look at the league table and see that we're 4 points off the play-offs so now is not the time to protest.
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I think he'd have a fair idea. The world an his wife know that we don't spend money full stop.
I don't buy this ongoing excuse of "well look bad it was in the 80's" I was there, I don't need to be reminded!
Football is about the here an now though I'm afraid an just because of those dark days of the past, it in no way should mean we should be grateful for basically stagnating!
 
Thewhites. said:
When I whinge about the owners and the board and suggest they should sell up for a quid, the response tends to be ‘why would they do that’ and ‘nobody wants to buy us’.

Until such time as we are firmly lodged in the relegation zone (more than likely around this time next year), will the majority actually consider doing anything tangible to address the situation.

The thing that disturbs me above all else is that I can’t see a viable exit strategy. Maybe they are holding out for the £30m but it’s not going to happen. Maybe in reality they’d accept a lot less than that.

The pessimist in me suggests that they actually want us to be in League 1 where the P&S rules restrict player wages to 80% in year one and 70% thereafter. Hence, we’d probably break even as a middling League 1 outfit. Cost neutral and problem solved fro their perspective financially. Certainly that’s the option I’d be taking if I didn’t care about football or PNE and I wanted to stem the financial bleeding. Reckon that’s where we’re heading personally.
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Agree 100 per cent that they wouldn't mind us being in League 1.

The only thing that has stopped them totally going down this road so far is the vain hope that someone would stump up the fantasy island figure they want for the club.

Once they realise that's never going to happen, the shackles will not just be on - they will be screwed into the bone.

As you point out, one solution would be to sell for a nominal figure (Sir Jack Hayward sold Wolves for a tenner) on the understanding that the new owner invested properly.

Sadly, I can't see them doing that until all other options have disappeared. 🙁
 
Staffordwhite said:
Agree 100 per cent that they wouldn't mind us being in League 1.

The only thing that has stopped them totally going down this road so far is the vain hope that someone would stump up the fantasy island figure they want for the club.

Once they realise that's never going to happen, the shackles will not just be on - they will be screwed into the bone.

As you point out, one solution would be to sell for a nominal figure (Sir Jack Hayward sold Wolves for a tenner) on the understanding that the new owner invested properly.

Sadly, I can't see them doing that until all other options have disappeared. 🙁
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I fear league one. If we're under the Hemmings regime for any length of time while down there and under P&L rules we can only spend a lower and lower % of turnover, given our turnover is dire and the ownership have no appetite to increase it, I don't think we'd be competitive down there, I could see us tumbling down the leagues.
 
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