Skip to main content

Ref for the Villa game!

Ref for the Villa game!

marsbars

marsbars

Joined
Aug 15, 2005
Messages
18,402
Location
Newcastle
Saw this on another forum .....

The ref for the villa game do we need this guy NO.inRead invented by Teads
Referee: Darren England
Assistant Refs: Nick Greenhalgh and James Mainwaring
Fourth Official: Mark Heywood

Match Day referee England has officiated 28 games in 2017/18, showing 103 yellow cards and two red cards.

He took in 42 games in 2016/17, with a return of 121 yellow cards and nine red cards.

His highest card count that year was seven yellows in the game between Cheltenham Town and Yeovil Town.

He took in 30 matches in 2015-16 and in those games, across all competitions and football divisions, he handed out a total of 97 yellow cards and six red cards.

He was most card happy in the match between Accrington and Mansfield on August 18 with a total of ten yellows being shown. He also showed eight yellows and one red in the Portsmouth v Barnet match on September 12.

After two years officiating in The National League, which included a 2015 cameo in a Sky Bet League Two fixture, England made the step-up to refereeing in the EFL on a regular basis. In what was just his second season last term, England was the man in the middle for Blackpool's Play-Off Final win over Exeter City at Wembley.

Source - EFL.

Let`s hope it`s not another repeat and more of the players edge closer to automatic bans.
 
Had him twice already, Middlesbrough 0-0 Booking Pearson and Harrop and 1 Middlesbrough player (Away game) and Fulham 2-2 Booking Huntington, Johnson, Earl and Woods and 1 Fulham Player (Away Game) GAve Fulham a Pen

His only 2 games he's referee'd us in.

Good site for Referee Stats https://www.whoscored.com/Referees/132/Show/Darren-England

I am predicting 7 yellows, 1 pen and maybe a red. Also a 2-2 draw
 
It doesn't matter what Ref we get, they are all shite. English Ref's bar 1 or 2 in the Prem are terrible. Foreign Ref's are much better. I think there is too much pressure on our Ref's, even at Grass Roots under 9's there are Parents and Coaches who question the Ref and put him under pressure and a great deal of these Ref's are about 16 years of age.
 
Mickypne said:
It doesn't matter what Ref we get, they are all shite. English Ref's bar 1 or 2 in the Prem are terrible. Foreign Ref's are much better. I think there is too much pressure on our Ref's, even at Grass Roots under 9's there are Parents and Coaches who question the Ref and put him under pressure and a great deal of these Ref's are about 16 years of age.
Click to expand...
Correct Micky. My 16 yr old refs when he is not playing. Some of the parents are a disgrace.
For the Villa match, why does the name of the assistant ref - Mainwaring - fill me with dread?
 
FootballcrazyP_ said:
Had him twice already, Middlesbrough 0-0 Booking Pearson and Harrop and 1 Middlesbrough player (Away game) and Fulham 2-2 Booking Huntington, Johnson, Earl and Woods and 1 Fulham Player (Away Game) GAve Fulham a Pen

His only 2 games he's referee'd us in.

Good site for Referee Stats https://www.whoscored.com/Referees/132/Show/Darren-England

I am predicting 7 yellows, 1 pen and maybe a red. Also a 2-2 draw
Click to expand...

I'll put a fiver on that with my bookie!😀
 
Dirty Harry said:
Correct Micky. My 16 yr old refs when he is not playing. Some of the parents are a disgrace.
For the Villa match, why does the name of the assistant ref - Mainwaring - fill me with dread?
Click to expand...

I was talking to a Coach yesterday who is a Copper in Liverpool. He said in Walton(where Everton is) Grass Roots games are policed and he polices them. He said few week back a Ref had his Nose broke by a Parent in a kids game and they all turn up with a joint and their Staff Bull Terriers therefore it needs 5 Police Officers there. It's bloody crazy. I'd never let my son play in a game like that. Our Ref yesterday who reffed my Son under 9 game was excellent. He was encouraging the kids all game it was great to see. He didn't get any flak from Parents or Coaches but he might do next week, depends which team he Refs but i have seen it at times when Parents and Coaches shout to the Ref over a decision and these kids are 7 8 9. It's crazy.
Must admit last week he got a Penalty for Handball and naturally(i play myself) i shouted Handball to the Ref, it just comes out and i thought "shit, it's kids Footy, does it matter if it;s hand or not". It's just my nature because i still play lol
 
We are the worst disciplined team in the league - 83 yellows.

We have picked up 12 more yellows than the second worst team (Bolton).

It's time we stopped highlighting poor refereeing, we have a problem with discipline. Needs to be sorted out. Fisher is one yellow away from a two game ban, Johnson is 2 games away. Pearson has already missed 3 games through suspension. Cunningham and Welsh didn't use their experience when on one yellow.

It's going to cost us eventually.
 
Nishtar36 said:
We are the worst disciplined team in the league - 83 yellows.

We have picked up 12 more yellows than the second worst team (Bolton).

It's time we stopped highlighting poor refereeing, we have a problem with discipline. Needs to be sorted out. Fisher is one yellow away from a two game ban, Johnson is 2 games away. Pearson has already missed 3 games through suspension. Cunningham and Welsh didn't use their experience when on one yellow.

It's going to cost us eventually.
Click to expand...

You are correct and the stats show for themselves but Refereeing is bloody awful.
 
Nishtar36 said:
We are the worst disciplined team in the league - 83 yellows.

We have picked up 12 more yellows than the second worst team (Bolton).

It's time we stopped highlighting poor refereeing, we have a problem with discipline. Needs to be sorted out. Fisher is one yellow away from a two game ban, Johnson is 2 games away. Pearson has already missed 3 games through suspension. Cunningham and Welsh didn't use their experience when on one yellow.

It's going to cost us eventually.
Click to expand...

Arguably it already is costing us.

Limited us to a point in the last 2 games and we were clinging on at Brentford.

It needs to stop. We can be in people’s faces without all the stupid bookings.
 
Don't suppose anyone knows just how many of our cards are for dissent/time wasting/unsportsmanlike conduct?

I can't stand it personally and I feel it's something AN needs to get a grip on. If we don't make the playoffs by a couple of points and we can point to picking up silly yellows like the Cunningham one that resulted in a red It's real poor form. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen but we have missed too many players already die to suspension.
 
Mickypne said:
I was talking to a Coach yesterday who is a Copper in Liverpool. He said in Walton(where Everton is) Grass Roots games are policed and he polices them. He said few week back a Ref had his Nose broke by a Parent in a kids game and they all turn up with a joint and their Staff Bull Terriers therefore it needs 5 Police Officers there. It's bloody crazy. I'd never let my son play in a game like that. Our Ref yesterday who reffed my Son under 9 game was excellent. He was encouraging the kids all game it was great to see. He didn't get any flak from Parents or Coaches but he might do next week, depends which team he Refs but i have seen it at times when Parents and Coaches shout to the Ref over a decision and these kids are 7 8 9. It's crazy.
Must admit last week he got a Penalty for Handball and naturally(i play myself) i shouted Handball to the Ref, it just comes out and i thought "shit, it's kids Footy, does it matter if it;s hand or not". It's just my nature because i still play lol
Click to expand...
None of that surprises me Micky. In my sons first ever reffing match the two coaches squared up nose in face to each other on the touch line threatening to belt each other and effing this effing that over something totally unrelated to the match. My son was only 15 and didn't really know how to handle it. I had to run over and tell them both that my lad would abandon the match there and then and report both clubs if they didn't grow up and calm it down. They seemed to shit themselves with the threat of being reported. One of the coaches goes to a lot of PNE away games and he clearly isn't fit to be anywhere near youth football.
 
Dirty Harry said:
None of that surprises me Micky. In my sons first ever reffing match the two coaches squared up nose in face to each other on the touch line threatening to belt each other and effing this effing that over something totally unrelated to the match. My son was only 15 and didn't really know how to handle it. I had to run over and tell them both that my lad would abandon the match there and then and report both clubs if they didn't grow up and calm it down. They seemed to shit themselves with the threat of being reported. One of the coaches goes to a lot of PNE away games and he clearly isn't fit to be anywhere near youth football.
Click to expand...

Bloody crazy mate. Tell your lad there are Parents and Coaches out there who do appreciate the effort they put in. I love it when i see a young Referee encouraging the kids during a game. It's one of the good things in Grassroots as the Ref has a vital part to play, especially at kids level. Letting decisions go etc, meaning they won't affect a kids confidence. :thumbsup:
 
Mickypne said:
Bloody crazy mate. Tell your lad there are Parents and Coaches out there who do appreciate the effort they put in. I love it when i see a young Referee encouraging the kids during a game. It's one of the good things in Grassroots as the Ref has a vital part to play, especially at kids level. Letting decisions go etc, meaning they won't affect a kids confidence. :thumbsup:
Click to expand...
Absolutely, he reffed Walton juniors FC I think the other week in the lancs league and the coaches there were superb with him and very encouraging, as are many others. It's a shame there's always one or two numpties, as in most walks of life. It's a grand little part time job for him too - keeps him fit when his own team have matches cancelled, 25 quid for an hours work, teaches him to think on his feet etc. I'd recommend it to youngsters at 15-18 as it beats working in a shop etc all day for the same money. He has also done some tournaments where he refs several games in a day and they are a nice little earner, as Arfur Daley would say.
I would just add that blimey, these coaches need to get kids learning how to take throw ins properly. There is usually an agreement between coaches to just let foul throws go, otherwise you'd be there all bloomin' day!!
 
Last edited:
Mickypne said:
Bloody crazy mate. Tell your lad there are Parents and Coaches out there who do appreciate the effort they put in. I love it when i see a young Referee encouraging the kids during a game. It's one of the good things in Grassroots as the Ref has a vital part to play, especially at kids level. Letting decisions go etc, meaning they won't affect a kids confidence. :thumbsup:
Click to expand...

A few years ago I sponsored an u11 team. One ref was an older chap who actually ‘coached’ some of the kids. Things like showing them how to do a proper throw-in rather than a foul throw.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Absolutely, he reffed Walton juniors FC I think the other week in the lancs league and the coaches there were superb with him and very encouraging, as are many others. It's a shame there's always one or two numpties, as in most walks of life. It's a grand little part time job for him too - keeps him fit when his own team have matches cancelled, 25 quid for an hours work, teaches him to think on his feet etc. I'd recommend it to youngsters at 15-18 as it beats working in a shop etc all day for the same money. He has also done some tournaments where he refs several games in a day and they are a nice little earner, as Arfur Daley would say.
I would just add that blimey, these coaches need to get kids learning how to take throw ins properly. There is usually an agreement between coaches to just let foul throws go, otherwise you'd be there all bloomin' day!!
Click to expand...

some of LFAs initiatives with grassroots kids games are first class. The "Silent," games one for example where coaches and parents are encouraged to say nothing and let the kids make decisions in the game rather than parents or coaches is one that worked really well.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Absolutely, he reffed Walton juniors FC I think the other week in the lancs league and the coaches there were superb with him and very encouraging, as are many others. It's a shame there's always one or two numpties, as in most walks of life. It's a grand little part time job for him too - keeps him fit when his own team have matches cancelled, 25 quid for an hours work, teaches him to think on his feet etc. I'd recommend it to youngsters at 15-18 as it beats working in a shop etc all day for the same money. He has also done some tournaments where he refs several games in a day and they are a nice little earner, as Arfur Daley would say.
I would just add that blimey, these coaches need to get kids learning how to take throw ins properly. There is usually an agreement between coaches to just let foul throws go, otherwise you'd be there all bloomin' day!!
Click to expand...

Yes there was plenty of foul throws yesterday but at 7 8 and 9 that's not relevant to a kids game. They can learn that in training over 5 minutes lol. yesterday the young Ref stopped it once on a foul throw and told the kid how to throw, needless to say it worked the kid throw was much better there on after.
 
Of the 35 games we've played so far this season Pearson has only played in 21 of them. He wasn't selected for the 3 cup games so from 32 league games he's played in 21. That isn't enough. I know he's also been injured. And highlights again the ongoing need to strengthen in that area.
 
Back
Top