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Numberonefanpne said:
The thing is if he thought they would offer him anything he obviously wouldn’t have said it then. Its been clear for a while they wouldnt offer him anything let alone a pay rise
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He still had over 6months left on his deal, plenty of time for negotiations and to knuckle down and prove on the pitch he would be worth a new contract. Sadly he just made himself appear to be a disruptive, negative influence off the pitch.

Unfortunately for Barky he got injured as the new manager came in and other players have stepped up in his place on the pitch, so he wouldn't be a regular first team player any more at a time when we are trying to slash the wage budget.

I'm sure he's a good lad, I just think he's been the victim of circumstances and possibly received some bad advice about how to go about getting a new deal.
 
Liberation said:
Don't be daft... That interview was late last year and he's been here for over 5 years... There's more to it than that. In an earlier post I jokingly said that he might have told the truth and called PR a wanker.. I hope he did.
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Didn't Nugent do something similar and get put on a disciplinary/gardening leave for the rest of his contract?
 
Numberonefanpne said:
To be honest I think he probably will post something cause it was an amazing 5/6 years for him overall its just a shame how it ended
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I hope he does; five years of getting lumps kicked out of you really takes a toll on one's body. Ask Tom to seriously consider @Staffordwhite 's impending approach for a sit-down session*, I'm sure it will make interesting reading.

(* and don't give us the sanitised version, Keith 😉)
 
Bobbage said:
He still had over 6months left on his deal, plenty of time for negotiations and to knuckle down and prove on the pitch he would be worth a new contract. Sadly he just made himself appear to be a disruptive, negative influence off the pitch.

Unfortunately for Barky he got injured as the new manager came in and other players have stepped up in his place on the pitch, so he wouldn't be a regular first team player any more at a time when we are trying to slash the wage budget.

I'm sure he's a good lad, I just think he's been the victim of circumstances and possibly received some bad advice about how to go about getting a new deal.
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Trust me they were never keeping him. But what I dont understand is why they didnt just say it? Its fine to want to release someone but they have made out they wanted him to stay..

And I dont know if thats true because when he came back from his injury they started him the first chance they got and then he pulled a muscle?
 
Bobbage said:
As a fan, yes it is, but my point is that after those interviews is it really a surprise that Barky wasn't offered a pay rise?
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The first interview was put out by PNE, so it was officially sanctioned by the club.

What then happened was that some 'look at me' no-mark put out an edited version on twitter. This was intended to make Barky's comments seem more critical than they were in the context of the complete interview.

Many people on here jumped on the bandwagon having only bothered to watch the edited version. The criticism that he subsequently came in for, combined with his later injury, probably played right into PR's hands.
 
SF said:
Not sure why people think he would have been an acceptable wing back, he was awful there. Brentford at home under McAvoy still gives me shivers.

No room for him as a makeshift striker as his finishing wasn't good enough, and we don't use wingers.
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That Brentford game he was moved to LB in a 4 back wasn’t he? In the second half
 
SF said:
Not sure why people think he would have been an acceptable wing back, he was awful there. Brentford at home under McAvoy still gives me shivers.

No room for him as a makeshift striker as his finishing wasn't good enough, and we don't use wingers.
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Yeah, well - Barkhuizen was never a left wing-back.

At right wing-back, he was perfectly acceptable, and better going forward than defensive options like Potts or van den Berg.
 
Jack Daniels said:
I thought his Sept 21 interview was a breath of fresh air to be honest.

If this interview has done for him and this only, then shame on PNE.
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He's gone and we'll never know what, but it sure looks like something was going on behind the scenes.
I hope he does well ( but not if he plays against us).
And thanks for THAT goal v the plastics which surely even his biggest critics were pleased with.
 
jamesOB said:
That Brentford game he was moved to LB in a 4 back wasn’t he? In the second half
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After getting royally bummed at LWB in the first half, not sure if he lasted the game.
Thracia said:
Yeah, well - Barkhuizen was never a left wing-back.

At right wing-back, he was perfectly acceptable, and better going forward than defensive options like Potts or van den Berg.
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I thought he looked completely lost on either side, and both Potts and VDB were much better, proving why we need to make room to strengthen in that department. Barky was/ is a good Championship winger and that's it for me, he's not a utility man.
 
SF said:
After getting royally bummed at LWB in the first half, not sure if he lasted the game.
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The whole team got royally bummed, this was gym teacher Frankie getting a 5-star schooling from an actual football team.

Ridsdale gave him the full-time job a month later anyway.
I thought he looked completely lost on either side, and both Potts and VDB were much better, proving why we need to make room to strengthen in that department. Barky was/ is a good Championship winger and that's it for me, he's not a utility man.
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We certainly need to strengthen now that safety-first Potts is our only option out there.
 
SF said:
Not sure why people think he would have been an acceptable wing back, he was awful there. Brentford at home under McAvoy still gives me shivers.

No room for him as a makeshift striker as his finishing wasn't good enough, and we don't use wingers.
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Hull City first home game. It was very bad. never saw him play well at Wing Back.
 
Thracia said:
The whole team got royally bummed, this was gym teacher Frankie getting a 5-star schooling from an actual football team.

Ridsdale gave him the full-time job a month later anyway.

We certainly need to strengthen now that safety-first Potts is our only option out there.
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Potts will prove to be good back up in tricky away games when we need to be more solid I feel.

At home we need someone who can carry the ball from deep at pace, can beat a man and can hopefully cross. We need a player that has the mentality to drive, rather than check back, which is why I think a young Prem loan who isn't scared to lose the ball could be our best bet.
 
Pink Panther Flag said:
Hull City first home game. It was very bad. never saw him play well at Wing Back.
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I do think Potts has benefitted from playing in front of SVDB, whereas Barky had Storey was also dreadful in that Hull game.

Barky was offered a lot defensively when played as a winger, but much like Browne when we tried him at right wing back, positionally he was all over the place.
 
Numberonefanpne said:
Trust me they were never keeping him. But what I dont understand is why they didnt just say it? Its fine to want to release someone but they have made out they wanted him to stay..
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Have they made that out anywhere?

I like Barky and would have liked it to end a little classier. But facts are, he's a winger who relies almost entirely on his pace, and we're a team who doesn't play with wingers, that has unfortunately seen him get to the latter stages of his career, with injuries starting to mount up.

Can't see any reason we'd offer him a deal unfortunately.
 
HunterLionheart said:
Have they made that out anywhere?

I like Barky and would have liked it to end a little classier. But facts are, he's a winger who relies almost entirely on his pace, and we're a team who doesn't play with wingers, that has unfortunately seen him get to the latter stages of his career, with injuries starting to mount up.

Can't see any reason we'd offer him a deal unfortunately.
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Ridsdale literally did so:

www.lancs.live

Ridsdale confirms Barkhuizen contract talks & Preston North End's aim

The PNE forward is out of contract in the summer of 2022
www.lancs.live www.lancs.live
 
Lee Trundle said:
I do think Potts has benefitted from playing in front of SVDB, whereas Barky had Storey was also dreadful in that Hull game.

Barky was offered a lot defensively when played as a winger, but much like Browne when we tried him at right wing back, positionally he was all over the place.
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As have the majority of our players when played out of position.... And that's the players fault? .... I suspect the issue isn't / hasn't been the players themselves.

I used to play CH/Sweeper quite solidly if I might say. If you'd stuck me in midfield then I'd have been laughed at...
 
To be fair I don’t mind a player like barky calling people out and saying how he sees it. However the owner has gone and now it seems things are changing for the better - no frankie, cheap season tickets etc however.

Speaking of barky though don’t see the need for keeping a player who has (a) been injured for the majority of the season and (b) doesn’t fit into lowe’s system. Yes there are others here who aren’t deserving to still be here - Harrop, maguire etc. that isn’t lowe’s fault. But if we had kept barky and a year later he hardly played because he’s injured/isn’t getting in the side then it will just be a waste of a wage.

We need to fully back Lowe now and supports who he wants not offer contracts to below average players/players we don’t need. Barky I wish him well. And at one time he may come back to haunt us. But there is a time when we have to just let players go and unfortunately barky is one of those.
 
Thracia said:
Yeah, well - Barkhuizen was never a left wing-back.

At right wing-back, he was perfectly acceptable, and better going forward than defensive options like Potts or van den Berg.
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Sorry how do you come to that judgement. His performance at wing back v Watford at home last season - barky didn’t even get out of his own half.

Look at potts role in the Blackpool goal at home.

People have this theory that barky was good going forward because he had ‘pace.’ 2 assists in 45 games as a winger/wing back last season is shocking.

Potts is a better wing back then barky in the games I’ve seen. Although we need better had barky been fit all season lowe would have still picked potts.
 
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