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Liberation said:
I was told a few times that Hemmings wasn't keen on him for some reason but never understood why. From memory didn't Hemmings sanction his transfer in order that Morecambe could pay their wage bill at the time?.. You'd think after that TH would have an affinity with him not the opposite. Strange!

Always liked his forthright interviews and honesty which no doubt wouldn't endear him to the hierarchy. I'm sure he was equally outspoken behind the scenes and if he was shit on regarding salary then it was out of order considering everything ( as you stated earlier) that he was expected to do and did it regardless.

Personally I think we've lost a good player and sincerely hope that he doesn't come back to bite us on the arse. Best wishes and a thank you from me because I know PNE and we won't be rushing out to replace him with anyone better. We still have a lot of flotsam here that are far less deserving than Barky.
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If you're going to gob off you'd better also let your feet do the talking on the pitch. Tom gave that interview before Christmas and was then in the team and offered nothing. It was like in his head he'd already left. For me good riddance, yet I'm sure he'll come back to haunt us if he moves to a championship club. No doubt he'll cup his ear to us again when he scores.
 
Libertine said:
If you're going to gob off you'd better also let your feet do the talking on the pitch. Tom gave that interview before Christmas and was then in the team and offered nothing. It was like in his head he'd already left. For me good riddance, yet I'm sure he'll come back to haunt us if he moves to a championship club. No doubt he'll cup his ear to us again when he scores.
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Such bitterness... 😀
 
Libertine said:
If you're going to gob off you'd better also let your feet do the talking on the pitch. Tom gave that interview before Christmas and was then in the team and offered nothing. It was like in his head he'd already left. For me good riddance, yet I'm sure he'll come back to haunt us if he moves to a championship club. No doubt he'll cup his ear to us again when he scores.
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Eh? He started twice in January coming back from the vicious Fulham injury - in the second game he was injured again and never returned.
 
Thracia said:
Eh? He started twice in January coming back from the vicious Fulham injury - in the second game he was injured again and never returned.
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And did nowt. Didn't show any of the fight that he was demanding from the players in the interview.
The interview just really rankled with me. If I was one of the other players in that dressing room I certainly wouldn't have wanted him in the trenches with me. That said they must like him because they were all out in Manchester on Sunday.
 
Libertine said:
And did nowt. Didn't show any of the fight that he was demanding from the players in the interview.
The interview just really rankled with me. If I was one of the other players in that dressing room I certainly wouldn't have wanted him in the trenches with me. That said they must like him because they were all out in Manchester on Sunday.
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He was coming back from injury - and the fact he got injured again and out for the season perhaps shows he was being brought back too quickly.

I think "the interview just really rankled with you" is the whole story here - Barkhuizen's performances are nothing to do with it.

"Trenches" - fuck me, it's a football team, maybe this 100-year-old "trenches" cliché needs laying to rest. Personally I'd want Barkhuizen with me in the trenches, just so I didn't die of boredom talking to a load of dribbling brainless meatheads.
 
Thracia said:
He was coming back from injury - and the fact he got injured again and out for the season perhaps shows he was being brought back too quickly.

I think "the interview just really rankled with you" is the whole story here - Barkhuizen's performances are nothing to do with it.

"Trenches" - fuck me, it's a football team, maybe this 100-year-old "trenches" cliché needs laying to rest. Personally I'd want Barkhuizen with me in the trenches, just so I didn't die of boredom talking to a load of dribbling brainless meatheads.
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Sorry Tom. I love you really.
 
Thracia said:
He was coming back from injury - and the fact he got injured again and out for the season perhaps shows he was being brought back too quickly.

I think "the interview just really rankled with you" is the whole story here - Barkhuizen's performances are nothing to do with it.

"Trenches" - fuck me, it's a football team, maybe this 100-year-old "trenches" cliché needs laying to rest. Personally I'd want Barkhuizen with me in the trenches, just so I didn't die of boredom talking to a load of dribbling brainless meatheads.
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So much respect for other forum users
 
jackstaffordPNE said:
I think it's been coming due to the club more than anything. He was waiting for an acceptable offer which never came. Case of the late Trevor Hemmings not being willing to pay him what he's worth as he came from Morecambe. Barky not being happy about it when Maguire and Harrop are collecting good wages and offering far less than Barky over their time at the club.

Then the formation Lowe plays doesnt suit Tom which is another reason why Tom playing elsewhere is probably best for both parties. Despite what people might think, Tom never pushed to leave
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Yes - this is my understanding of the situation too. He has had 12 grand on the table for some time now and neither he nor the club would budge- though I was led to understand he was on the point of signing a few weeks back. I think the fact that RL has not seen him play due to injury , and the fact that Tom prefers to play wide in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 , means both parties are happy to look elsewhere.

I would say 12 grand is a fair wage for a club like us. But it is also fair for Tom to point out that he has consistently performed better than the likes of Maguire and Harrop and he should be on way more than them . With the benefit of hindsight, the biggest mistake we have made in my view, was giving Sinclair 17grand plus a week , which upped the wage structure and was then the negotiating reference point for all the contracts that came up subsequently.

I could see him ending up at somewhere like Wigan or Sunderland with a 3 year deal. The plastics would be a strange one given they have no manager.
 
Libertine said:
He did the interview on the 18th of October after that he played 11 times, 4 times for 90 minutes. He provided 1 assist,
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So your "before Christmas" description of the interview was actually "long before Christmas".

Are you now trying to tell us all those performances were shit as well?

Truth just rankles some people I guess - players should just know their place.
 
Tough one for Barky. Never really a great player to watch but always produced decent numbers over the course of the season. Good work rate defensively and does possess genuine pace.

On the other hand he had a terrible year in 20/21 and has barely played this season. A brave decision to let him go, but in my view the correct one.
 
Thracia said:
So your "before Christmas" description of the interview was actually "long before Christmas".

Are you now trying to tell us all those performances were shit as well?

Truth just rankles some people I guess - players should just know their place.
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So you don't like "before Christmas" as a timescale and you don't like a basic English saying like "in the trenches" is there any other phrases I need to avoid Tom?

Think he/you did alright against Luton from memory, but I don't remember many performances to write home about.
Is "write home about" okay with you or do I need to use text or e-mail home about? This is all in the context of his interview don't forget.
 
Libertine said:
So you don't like "before Christmas" as a timescale and you don't like a basic English saying like "in the trenches" is there any other phrases I need to avoid Tom?

Think he/you did alright against Luton from memory, but I don't remember many performances to write home about.
Is "write home about" okay with you or do I need to use text or e-mail home about? This is all in the context of his interview don't forget.
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Libertine said:
So you don't like "before Christmas" as a timescale and you don't like a basic English saying like "in the trenches" is there any other phrases I need to avoid Tom?

Think he/you did alright against Luton from memory, but I don't remember many performances to write home about.
Is "write home about" okay with you or do I need to use text or e-mail home about? This is all in the context of his interview don't forget.
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Don't use abbreviations or nicknames when referring to the youth team, do not expose the Thracia to light, especially sunlight, which will kill it; do not let it come in contact with water; and above all, never feed it after midnight...
 
raefil said:
Good luck Barky. A player who I enjoyed watching and whatever his beef was with the club he never shirked on the pitch.
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I wouldn't say he shirked but he often seemed to jog back when he had lost possession, rather than bust a gut to track back.
People used to say he was 'managing his condition'. If that's the case then fair enough but it isn't what I want to see and the manager seems to agree.
 
Mer5eywhite said:
I wouldn't say he shirked but he often seemed to jog back when he had lost possession, rather than bust a gut to track back.
People used to say he was 'managing his condition'. If that's the case then fair enough but it isn't what I want to see and the manager seems to agree.
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We sit behind the dug out, Barky often needed his inhaler.
 
Libertine said:
So you don't like "before Christmas" as a timescale and you don't like a basic English saying like "in the trenches" is there any other phrases I need to avoid Tom?

Think he/you did alright against Luton from memory, but I don't remember many performances to write home about.
Is "write home about" okay with you or do I need to use text or e-mail home about? This is all in the context of his interview don't forget.
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"Rankled" obviously isn't the half of it.
 
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