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Jack Daniels said:
Interesting comment.

Despite my being in favour of RL, equally, I was also angry about the subs v Sunderland when the game was gone. Farce.
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"I don't want a big squad because we have the youth team lads and the young pros to fulfill that like we had against Sunderland."

That to me smacks of we're not really interested in developing young players, they are more of a shirt filler when we are down to the bare bones.
 
jonboy said:
If he wants to be part of selecting players, he should buy a club, not interfere with OUR club!!!
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a) He can't afford it.

and

b) Even if he could, I doubt he'd splash his own money up the wall as easily as someone else's.

Anyway, everything at the club is rosy; Just check out 'Craig's' statement, which has appeased the docile masses on Facebook/Twitter... 😒

Even when we go down, they'll still be swallowing the 'can't compete with parachute payments' line.

Thoroughly depressing.
 
jonboy said:
And right there is the problem! Why is Ridsdale watching potential signings?? His only involvement in any transfers should be negotiation with the agents of targets identified by the scouting system, which have been agreed with Lowe. This is how and why the dinosaurs "2 out of 5" approach to transfers is dragging us down. If he wants to be part of selecting players, he should buy a club, not interfere with OUR club!!!
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To be fair, if you are in charge of getting signings over the line then its reasonable to be at games etc to talk to the people who need to be talked to to make things happen.

Obviously if Ridsdale is effectively the scout and is involved in specific football decisions (and he may very well be so) then its a problem. The last few seasons of transfers tell us that.
 
simo said:
To be fair, if you are in charge of getting signings over the line then its reasonable to be at games etc to talk to the people who need to be talked to to make things happen.

Obviously if Ridsdale is effectively the scout and is involved in specific football decisions (and he may very well be so) then its a problem. The last few seasons of transfers tell us that.
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He can do that over the phone or on non matchdays. He regularly went on scouting missions with Alex Neil. Something he is blatantly unqualified to do. What's the point in paying a specialist organisation to identify players, if the dinosaur is going to over rule them. As many have said it isn't necessarily the amount we've spent it how we've spent it. The "2 out of 5" statement suggests the wrong mentality and setting a very low threshold. Both of which have kept Ridsdale in a job far, far too long.
 
jonboy said:
He can do that over the phone or on non matchdays. He regularly went on scouting missions with Alex Neil. Something he is blatantly unqualified to do. What's the point in paying a specialist organisation to identify players, if the dinosaur is going to over rule them. As many have said it isn't necessarily the amount we've spent it how we've spent it. The "2 out of 5" statement suggests the wrong mentality and setting a very low threshold. Both of which have kept Ridsdale in a job far, far too long.
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No issue with him being at matches. He can do what he likes but the results of his endeavours are what matters and I'm clear that the results have been shite.
 
It really is bleak when you see our squad in black and white without the loan players isn't it. Genuinely don't think a single one of those defenders would stand out in a League One side; we have one striker, and no wingbacks on either side.

Assuming the out of contract players all leave, I'd say we have five players of Championship standard: Woodman, Whiteman, Browne, McCann and Riis. (And there are some fans who would argue with me on that about the latter three).

That's a hell of a rebuild needed.
 
pneal said:
It really is bleak when you see our squad in black and white without the loan players isn't it. Genuinely don't think a single one of those defenders would stand out in a League One side; we have one striker, and no wingbacks on either side.

Assuming the out of contract players all leave, I'd say we have five players of Championship standard: Woodman, Whiteman, Browne, McCann and Riis. (And there are some fans who would argue with me on that about the latter three).

That's a hell of a rebuild needed.
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Good that you’re reading the team in black and white.

You’ll be reading the team (at least the name) in red next year, as we’ll spend the season in the relegation zone.
 
Apparently its down to appearance that triggered his 1 year option. If it was on performance then he would be leaving
 
Oggy93 said:
Apparently its down to appearance that triggered his 1 year option. If it was on performance then he would be leaving
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They would have known that when selecting him though. It's not like they wouldn't have realised the contract clause ramifications for each player at any given time. If they didn't realise and selected him by accident, that's shocking on a number of levels.

Anyone heard anything on DJ, Onomah, Greg, Brady? Gone suspiciously quiet, hasn't it? I don't know why the club would be hanging on to the news, it's not as if any of them are going to move the needle on season ticket sales at this stage.

Maybe these things just take time, but you'd expect any club worth its salt to have started negotiations a long time ago.
 
cragtek said:
They would have known that when selecting him though. It's not like they wouldn't have realised the contract clause ramifications for each player at any given time. If they didn't realise and selected him by accident, that's shocking on a number of levels.

Anyone heard anything on DJ, Onomah, Greg, Brady? Gone suspiciously quiet, hasn't it? I don't know why the club would be hanging on to the news, it's not as if any of them are going to move the needle on season ticket sales at this stage.

Maybe these things just take time, but you'd expect any club worth its salt to have started negotiations a long time ago.
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Can't believe I'm suggesting this of our professional football club competing in the second-highest division in the country, but I honestly don't back the club (looking at you, Peter) to be aware of contract clauses like that - even if they're the fuckers that put them there in the first place.
 
MattPNE17 said:
Can't believe I'm suggesting this of our professional football club competing in the second-highest division in the country, but I honestly don't back the club (looking at you, Peter) to be aware of contract clauses like that - even if they're the fuckers that put them there in the first place.
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Doesn't take much to update an excel spreadsheet ? ….. But then again ?
 
pneal said:
It really is bleak when you see our squad in black and white without the loan players isn't it. Genuinely don't think a single one of those defenders would stand out in a League One side; we have one striker, and no wingbacks on either side.

Assuming the out of contract players all leave, I'd say we have five players of Championship standard: Woodman, Whiteman, Browne, McCann and Riis. (And there are some fans who would argue with me on that about the latter three).

That's a hell of a rebuild needed.
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It's difficult to say what Riis will be like when he returns. By far his main (some might say only) asset is speed but as we saw with Maguire, after a serious injury, it's by no means guaranteed he'll still have that.
 
cragtek said:
They would have known that when selecting him though. It's not like they wouldn't have realised the contract clause ramifications for each player at any given time. If they didn't realise and selected him by accident, that's shocking on a number of levels.

Anyone heard anything on DJ, Onomah, Greg, Brady? Gone suspiciously quiet, hasn't it? I don't know why the club would be hanging on to the news, it's not as if any of them are going to move the needle on season ticket sales at this stage.

Maybe these things just take time, but you'd expect any club worth its salt to have started negotiations a long time ago.
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Would be surprised if DJ or Brady stay. The senior pro’s (Browne, DJ, Whiteman, Brady in particular), don’t buy in to RL’s methods. They all seems to pick up injuries once the play-offs became mathematically unobtainable. Browne is injured, the other three I think were unavailable for different reasons. Whiteman, I’m pretty sure, isn’t injured. Just not selected, and I can’t see him being here by the end of the transfer window.
 
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