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Riddler interview.

Riddler interview.

The statement that he came out with last season explaining that they felt it important to honour the players contracts but there would be no refund on ST's was the beginning of the end for me.
Don't even think we are getting our free season tickets, which we got years ago instead of a pay rise so in effect when we are un furloughed ....a pay cut as some of the staff sell them to friends every season as they unlike me are not fans of pne.
 
I think the credit off a future season ticket would be a reasonable compromise.

However, there is a difference between "exploring" or "being in discussions" which I am aware Peter has told some supporters.

As others have alluded to any such offer needs to be signed off by the owner and as I am sure most people would understand I have slight reservations on what Mr. Hemmings says and what Mr. Hemmings does.

Put it on the official website in some form and I will renew and i suspect others I know would also reconsider.

I would certainly reconsider.

As I'm still waiting for how they are going to reward the loyal ST holders from last season PR will forgive me if I don't buy his non committal responses from that interview.
 
Ive decided to renew too.....

I cant stand the thought of games played and not being able to go because I havent got a ST (in a family bubble).

I decided to 'risk' trusting PR that they will look at 'something' if we have another lockdown...

I am trusting the ticket office to find 'suitable seats' for my disabled kids and trust Hannah 100% to do her best.

I have to accept that the club cant promise me money back mid season if they still have to pay all the players for the contracts they are budgetting for this month....

I know the chances of all my family being able to attend the majority of games is less than 50%, but I'm a lifetime fan and not a lifetime fan except for 1 season...... ( if I was I'd have missed the Tommy Doc & Westley seasons).

On other topics

I thought Moult was a good player before the Wigan game (?JD it was Forest & Hull where he scored vital goals) - his movement is great but we rarely play the early balls into him.... his touch isgood too and I cant recall him missing many good chances ( we just didnt create them) - however I doubt he will be fully fit this year after such a long lay off.

Furlough....I know of one club that furloughed some of its staff on the 80& until they had to make some contribution - at which time they ended the contracts but hope their staff will be available when the jobs are needed again..... which I dont think is what PR would have done !?!
 
I noticed that too.
Stakes are high, he's been coming across under pressure and rattled all week imo but still find he makes his point clearly (agree with it or not) and represents the club well imo
Need more comms please

One thing I wish he was much more vocal on, which he eludes to in the interview, is the financial fairness of the league and lack of scrutiny and punishment of those clubs who consistently take the absolute piss. Maybe because our existence relies on the owners wealth means he doesn't go in stronger on this point but I genuinely think he should be raising it regularly, loudly and robustly as possible.
 
The more I listen to that interview the more I agree with @billymac & it's not often I can say that 😀

Never met the guy & I'm sure he's a very nice person but going off that I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

He either thinks we're stupid, have short memories or both.
 
Plenty of other clubs have managed to come out & say what they would do so for him to turn around & say he doesn't know the answer to "what if" as he doesn't know what "if" is doesn't cut it I'm afraid.

I get all that about the budget etc but all he needs to say is we will give a pro-rata refund or credit for 21/22 depending on how many games are disrupted. That's what a lot of other Clubs are doing.

He mentions a few times he talks to other Clubs so he knows damn well what they are offering.

"We will try & respond fairly" doesn't set my mind at ease I'm afraid.
Yes, I understand what you are saying. PNE don't have a very good track record of keeping promises to the fans. The principle of how a discount would be effected should be stated on the club website to give fans confidence to renew.
What other clubs are able to offer may be different when they have to actually start paying out. Time will tell.
 
I'm still giving this season a miss, the 1st time ever since I was 9 and I am now 51.

However, clarity - in my favour - on the following would likely cause me to probably renew.

1) Refund if the season goes tits up is important. Not a full refund but the difference between my £400 and the £230 via iFollow, games left depending.

2) Confirmation that I don't have to wear a face mask.

3) Living by myself, can I team up and sit with a mates family (2 persons)?

If PNE can answer me publicly or via PM me, then great. We know you read this forum.

Number 1 would suffice for me.
 
The more I listen to that interview the more I agree with @billymac & it's not often I can say that 😀

Never met the guy & I'm sure he's a very nice person but going off that I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

He either thinks we're stupid, have short memories or both.
I don't think agreeing with billymac strengthens your arguement!

TH and PR may be seen as unreliable by PNE fans but compared to many business owners both inside and outside football they are paragons of virtue. Money being the root of all evil probably has more than a grain of truth to it. You don't get to be rich by giving your money away. TH rules his empire and what he says goes. PR is there to make it sound palatable to the customers, not to set the terms of business.
 
I'm still giving this season a miss, the 1st time ever since I was 9 and I am now 51.

However, clarity - in my favour - on the following would likely cause me to probably renew.

1) Refund if the season goes tits up is important. Not a full refund but the difference between my £400 and the £230 via iFollow, games left depending.

2) Confirmation that I don't have to wear a face mask.

3) Living by myself, can I team up and sit with a mates family (2 persons)?

If PNE can answer me publicly or via PM me, then great. We know you read this forum.
To clarify for me JD are you saying that you won't be going on at all, or just not getting a season ticket?
I would think that most people who had season tickets last year would still try to attend even if they don't want to pre pay for the whole season.
 
To clarify for me JD are you saying that you won't be going on at all, or just not getting a season ticket?
I would think that most people who had season tickets last year would still try to attend even if they don't want to pre pay for the whole season.
As it stands, both.

Rovers, if things improve ie sit with mates, I'll attend. I don't even know the date except it is midweek.
 
To clarify for me JD are you saying that you won't be going on at all, or just not getting a season ticket?
I would think that most people who had season tickets last year would still try to attend even if they don't want to pre pay for the whole season.

I won't.

Probably cutting my nose off to spite my face but unless they change the refund policy I will be voting with my feet & giving the whole season a miss.
 
After some deliberation I've decided I will renew my season ticket. On the face of it my decision makes absolutely no logical sense. Putting aside the obvious uncertainty of the possibility of a second wave and the refund situation, I need to question my sanity for the following reasons. I'll be likely to attend on my own. both my kids will not be getting season tickets. My daughter is over 11 and has lost some interest, my son cannot attend due to refereeing commitments. Will I be able to go to the Labour club for a prematch pint? What will the atmosphere be like with only 6500 max in attendance and no away followings? The "missing piece of the Jigsaw" striker seems as far away as ever. We could lose some of our prized assets for very little. Have we been found out & will our poor late season form continue?

All of which points to potentially a grim & diluted seasons experience ahead. In most circumstances I would sack it off. However, this is PNE & I dont think I could face a season without attending Deepdale. Maybe,just maybe, I might be part of something special? I will, however, be holding PR & the club to their word over the credit for 21/22 should the worse case scenario happen on Deepdale attendance
 
Don't even think we are getting our free season tickets, which we got years ago instead of a pay rise so in effect when we are un furloughed ....a pay cut as some of the staff sell them to friends every season as they unlike me are not fans of pne.
Will they be offering refunds if covid strikes again?😉
 
After some deliberation I've decided I will renew my season ticket. On the face of it my decision makes absolutely no logical sense. Putting aside the obvious uncertainty of the possibility of a second wave and the refund situation, I need to question my sanity for the following reasons. I'll be likely to attend on my own. both my kids will not be getting season tickets. My daughter is over 11 and has lost some interest, my son cannot attend due to refereeing commitments. Will I be able to go to the Labour club for a prematch pint? What will the atmosphere be like with only 6500 max in attendance and no away followings? The "missing piece of the Jigsaw" striker seems as far away as ever. We could lose some of our prized assets for very little. Have we been found out & will our poor late season form continue?

All of which points to potentially a grim & diluted seasons experience ahead. In most circumstances I would sack it off. However, this is PNE & I dont think I could face a season without attending Deepdale. Maybe,just maybe, I might be part of something special? I will, however, be holding PR & the club to their word over the credit for 21/22 should the worse case scenario happen on Deepdale attendance

That's all fair enough mate & obviously you've got your reasons but I don't see how you can enforce your last sentence when he hasn't 100% committed to anything?
 
I'm still giving this season a miss, the 1st time ever since I was 9 and I am now 51.

However, clarity - in my favour - on the following would likely cause me to probably renew.

1) Refund if the season goes tits up is important. Not a full refund but the difference between my £400 and the £230 via iFollow, games left depending.

2) Confirmation that I don't have to wear a face mask.

3) Living by myself, can I team up and sit with a mates family (2 persons)?

If PNE can answer me publicly or via PM me, then great. We know you read this forum.

2) Recommended but not required. This is in the details of the announcement.
3) If you're a support bubble as legally defined, yes that is fine. Otherwise no, you're breaking social distancing rules.
 
Sorry but your rhetoric is totally wrong to say "one good game".

Granted, he hasn't played much but I present you with this game as a one off memory v Plastics.

Forest away (or was it Hull?) where he did the important business in a 0-1 victory, again, off memory, was another game. More mobile than Stockley and he cost less, too. Probably has a better Games : Goals ratio, too.

1 goal, 1 Key Assist v Plastics.

There is obviously some ability there to be for him to be included in the 18 when fit this season.

Fairs Fair cha!



We’re talking a couple of moments here in 2 and a half years.

Add that to the fact that he will now be coming back after more than 12 months out, and he had no pace anyway, and I’m not expecting much.

We need far better.
 
That's all fair enough mate & obviously you've got your reasons but I don't see how you can enforce your last sentence when he hasn't 100% committed to anything?
Thats the gamble I am comfortable with taking & I do want to trust the owner & PR on this. I do, however, have no issue with anyone that doesnt share my view & makes the opposite decision
 
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