I don't disagree and have been very vocal about my disdain for agents. I think it is an inherent problem within football though.
Riddler interview.
northendmanc
Analytical annoyance
Sorry I should have been clearer... I’d like them to spend more on scouting and transfers BUT if we don’t think we know enough about a player / league then a £25k punt in league we know is probably better than in one we don’t...
It just makes me wonder as to how PR puts together a recruitment plan for TH to sign off too, if he is only using agents then is has not been great these past 3 seasons.
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Agents fees in football are utterly ridiculous but a necessary evil these days unfortunately.
please excuse me if I don't believe a word Ridsdale utters......................
Whilst the trials and tribulations of Leeds United in the years that have followed could make a whole other series of articles, Ridsdale’s further involvement in Football would make a less believable piece of fiction, had it not actually happened. Peter moved onto Barnsley after the disaster at Leeds, owning the club outright and rescuing them from the brink of collapse after ITV Digital money came and went, he was forced to sell up or go bankrupt just a year later. He was then hired by Cardiff City as Chairman to oversee the new Stadium project, he misled fans over the use of funds from season ticket sales and failed to get a seat on the panel of the Welsh Football Association, receiving just 14 votes. During his four years as Chairman, the Bluebirds were on the receiving end of five winding-up orders from HMRC and Ridsdale left the club in 2010, reportedly £66m in debt. Ridsdale miraculously found himself another position as acting Chairman of Plymouth Argyle in the same year his consultancy business was liquidated with debts of £475,000, Peter was disqualified from taking any form of Directorship until April 2020 by the Insolvency Service in 2012 and remains in an advisory role to PNE owner, Mr T Hemmings.
What do you mean by 'using agents'?
Agents are paid whenever one of their clients gets a move. It isn't like we outsource our recruitment to agents and pay them a fee to do it, if that's what you're suggesting.
My view is this.
If a player wishes to move from PNE against the clubs wishes and he then gets his move, then he, the player, must pay the agent as it is he who instigated the move. The agent is acting for the player.
If it is a player that PNE wish to move on through either being crap (we've had plenty of these types) or simply PNE wish to hear the KER-CHING!, then it should be PNE paying the agents fees. The agent is acting for the club.
Not too difficult to implement, is it?
If a player wishes to move from PNE against the clubs wishes and he then gets his move, then he, the player, must pay the agent as it is he who instigated the move. The agent is acting for the player.
If it is a player that PNE wish to move on through either being crap (we've had plenty of these types) or simply PNE wish to hear the KER-CHING!, then it should be PNE paying the agents fees. The agent is acting for the club.
Not too difficult to implement, is it?
Thracia
Club Owner, or wingback, depending on your view
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It is too difficult to implement, because it takes two to tango.
Right now, the "big 4" are players PNE claim they want to keep.
But as the prospect of them leaving for nothing grows ever larger, PNE (prop: TH) will no longer want to keep them quite so much, even if PNE still publicly claim the opposite. So who pays the agents' fees if one of them is sold?
Another example: we might have a player on a loooong contract that PNE definitely don't want to sell, but if another club comes along flashing sufficient cash, you can be sure PNE (prop: TH) will "reluctantly" let them go.
Was such a move "against PNE's wishes"? Again, PNE might claim so in public, but it certainly wouldn't be clear-cut, especially as PNE always have the right to refuse the cash and keep the player (contractual release fees aside).
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Honestly don’t know much about this topic - but aren’t agent fees (mostly) very different from scouting? So are you asking a relevant question there?
I think someone said our wage bill is £19m per year - so £1m per year is a bit over one-twentieth. An agent is colloquially sometimes referred to as Mr Ten Percent - and these numbers are clearly a lot less than that. Nearer to Mr Five Percent!
My guess is that the agent fee covers mainly contractual services. Are they value for money? Probably not - but is that because PR is running an inefficient ship, or is it because that is just the market dynamic for football in general?
Maybe some agents truly are independent and sell genuine “impartial scouting reports” to the club. But I would have thought that your question would only be relevant if these sorts of genuine scouting services are costing a sizeable proportion of the annual £1m cost of agents.
agents should only earn their fees from the players THEY represent, how many times do you hear agents telling anyone who will listen, that the the players is THEIRS!!!!!! Bosman did away with any "rights" a club had to who "owns" the player.
Unless we’re buying championship players (which we don’t often do) normally lower leagues and Ireland then we don’t know how any will step up in the league. So void point.
Also, every player you’d like to think has ambition bigger than PNE. So all would see it as some sort of stepping stone. As long as we get 2/3 good years out of any player, home grown/abroad then what does it matter? (Take Robinson, Hugill, Cunningham to name a few in the past few years).
Also, every player you’d like to think has ambition bigger than PNE. So all would see it as some sort of stepping stone. As long as we get 2/3 good years out of any player, home grown/abroad then what does it matter? (Take Robinson, Hugill, Cunningham to name a few in the past few years).
StevieNorthEnd
Safe Hands Cha
The Riddler stated that more had.
Ridsdale said live on air more players have signed extensions and this was after Ledson, Maguire & Harrop had been announced.
Poor Andy
Possibly, not sure how it works from verbal agreements to signing on, seems to be dragging on though.
