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Riddler statement.

Riddler statement.

pnenycx said:
I would say some bad managers and lack of funds have been responsible. Even with lot of funds there's no guarantee to make it to the Premiership. Don't forget we made it to the playoffs final twice so we have been very close.
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Which has often given us the label as "nearly men". No prizes awarded for being there or thereabouts, but nothing more
 
jamesOB said:
Or nothing is going on and they don’t deem it even worth addressing
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simo said:
I think that's reading between the lines that are between the lines.

What evidence, other than a long thread of conjecture on here, is there that he's in for another job?
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JohnPNE said:
There is nothing to say on the manager situation apart from some people making up rumours and some people putting a bet on it. He’s not going to say anything about it when there is nothing to say.
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sports rehab said:
maybe because there is nothing to tell about the manager but we all know there is with players whose contracts are running out ?
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Yep maybe so. It just strikes me as strange they will address concerns on social media about players contracts & not anything else including the managers position which may or may not be up for discussion.

Appreciate if they addressed everything on social media they’d be putting out 10 statements a day so I don’t see why they’ve picked that out.
 
pne1881 said:
Yep maybe so. It just strikes me as strange they will address concerns on social media about players contracts & not anything else including the managers position which may or may not be up for discussion.

Appreciate if they addressed everything on social media they’d be putting out 10 statements a day so I don’t see why they’ve picked that out.
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Making no apology for their recruitment policy, pretty much summed everything up for me
 
You know the scary thing. Even PR has said that we are financially stable (and I am grateful for that given the potential crisis) but he said "We are acutely aware of the contract situation with all of our players and are in constant discussions with the representatives of the relevant players. We will update our fans as and when there is specific player news."

Update us when there is specific player news. Not in due course, not when they get back to training, not in a batch release, not every week, "when there is specific player news."

Maybe over thinking, but going off that, having had no news, means that not one single player has agreed in principle or officially signed anything. 2 weeks ago Sedds wrote in the LEP we were having crunch talks. I know some people will be on holiday and the like, but doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence
 
Naughton's moustache said:
Absolutely. Look at the timing though, all things Covid, what a great time to tell supporters, we'll continue to recruit our way, an no other way!! If there was no pandemic, there would've been no statement, but the same recruitment model
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I didn’t like the no refund policy, the recruitment strategy (although now pretty transparent if it wasn’t before) is going to get us nowhere yet I still find myself still considering the prospect of buying a ST (cost dependant) as the stuff around what would probably need to happen on a match day doesn’t really put me off.

It’s a hard habit to break.........
 
put simply what TH is telling PR to say is :-
Everyone on contract when Covid lockdown began keeps their job on full pay
Anyone not already on a contract cant have one now.

We can either agree or not with that position but thats what it appears to be....

Walker had one and stays, Ty didnt so goes.... Adam & Jack had 2nd year; Armer only had option for 2nd and so goes.

bad timing for those and for many and maybe shortsighted of TH but it seems that straightforward a policy.
 
pne1881 said:
Yep maybe so. It just strikes me as strange they will address concerns on social media about players contracts & not anything else including the managers position which may or may not be up for discussion.

Appreciate if they addressed everything on social media they’d be putting out 10 statements a day so I don’t see why they’ve picked that out.
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Player contracts needing renewing is a point of fact and well known.

Neil's position is that he has a contract that doesn't need renewing against a background of meaningless social media pub rumour.
 
JK said:
The contradictions in this post are frankly staggering.

Fwiw many supporters have helped the club when needed from painting the old ground, to buying shares twice, to giving up their shares for a pittance, to buying season tickets for decades,buying overpriced crap from the shop, buying programmes, i follow subscriptions, spending their own money on a campaign to have the training ground decsion over turned, to more recently buying banners.

The above is just a small example.

I have no issue with folk who support Mr Hemmings but I have an issue with folk who belittle the lifelong commitment of fans who spend a very high percentage of their disposable income on a football club that have won bugger all for nearly 60 years.

No fans no football club.
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Contradictions sir?

You say ‘no fans no football club’.

May I remind you that currently we can’t have fans, they currently can’t contribute in any meaningful way, but we do have a football club, ultimately financed by one individual.

I have supported this club for 60 years, I’ve also done my bit giving time and purchasing tickets and corporate stuff and other promotional activities for club and fan groups.

That is all history, we are in totally unknown territory for the club, football and business.

The club puts out a statement giving most fans some comfort in very difficult times, there are however the permanent whingers and whiners who always have to have a pop, never happy, always suspect another agenda and complain about lack of transfer actiivivty.

I’m sure the club would welcome a thousand pound donation of each true fan, peanuts to what is needed to keep the club afloat.

But the whingers who wouldn’t give 50 p of there own money, and probably want there season ticket money back, then complain about lack of investment in the club.

So do not have a pop at me, I have not contradicted anything I applaud all the stuff you mention which has been done in the past and which I have assisted to, however that does not give free reign for uncalled for criticism at a time and in a totally unprecedented situation.

It’s quite simple, I will spell it out to you, without TH paying the bills at this moment in time it would be no football club therefore no fans. What you paid last season or painted 40 years ago means nothing in the current situation.

The next 6 months are totally unknown, the financial implications are very concerning, I can’t see fans getting back in stadiums for some time, after last night you can’t even go in your neighbours house ffs.

I appreciate this won’t shut up the whingers, but that’s what they are, moaning twats, never satisfied.

Have a nice day.
 
Thracia said:
Haha, nice try.
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In the scheme of things football's not really important, getting rid of the virus and keeping people safe. Maybe its about time footballers joined the real world come October when furlough stops thousands of people will have no job to go back to football will be the last thing on their minds.
 
europne said:
Contradictions sir?

You say ‘no fans no football club’.

May I remind you that currently we can’t have fans, they currently can’t contribute in any meaningful way, but we do have a football club, ultimately financed by one individual.

I have supported this club for 60 years, I’ve also done my bit giving time and purchasing tickets and corporate stuff and other promotional activities for club and fan groups.

That is all history, we are in totally unknown territory for the club, football and business.

The club puts out a statement giving most fans some comfort in very difficult times, there are however the permanent whingers and whiners who always have to have a pop, never happy, always suspect another agenda and complain about lack of transfer actiivivty.

I’m sure the club would welcome a thousand pound donation of each true fan, peanuts to what is needed to keep the club afloat.

But the whingers who wouldn’t give 50 p of there own money, and probably want there season ticket money back, then complain about lack of investment in the club.

So do not have a pop at me, I have not contradicted anything I applaud all the stuff you mention which has been done in the past and which I have assisted to, however that does not give free reign for uncalled for criticism at a time and in a totally unprecedented situation.

It’s quite simple, I will spell it out to you, without TH paying the bills at this moment in time it would be no football club therefore no fans. What you paid last season or painted 40 years ago means nothing in the current situation.

The next 6 months are totally unknown, the financial implications are very concerning, I can’t see fans getting back in stadiums for some time, after last night you can’t even go in your neighbours house ffs.

I appreciate this won’t shut up the whingers, but that’s what they are, moaning twats, never satisfied.

Have a nice day.
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Can't disagree with any things you say . Wigan down the road can't find a potential buyer to put 100,000 bond down to start purchase.
TH could afford to walk away from PNE leaving depts he doesn't need to keep pumping money into that he will never get a return on.
If I was TH with the shit he gets I would have walked away long ago because what ever he does it will never be enough for some on here.
Probably those who think the gov should keep every one furloughed for ever.
 
Nottingham Forest had planned to redevelop their main stand. Back at the beginning of March they gave their season ticket holders a choice, either renew straight away for 20/21 season or risk not having a season ticket as capacity would be reduced by @8,000. Many of my friends renewed, so not only did they lose out for the season just gone, but also it looks like they won’t all (by a long way) get to see footy in the coming season. We could be much worse off than we are.
 
The statement says virtually nothing that we didn't already know., it's the way that it's said. There are numerous issues which he touches on but not in depth. Yes, it's a sign of the times and none of us like it, but just like the guy who swallowed a 50 pence piece and watched his poo for a week, there was "no change". It's all as you were. Not much changes at North End although I too welcome the statement, but let's not have this, "they've put out a statement so you can't argue with it crap". I really feel for the supporters who are going to find it may well be a lottery to obtain a seat to watch matches next season, especially those of you who have watched PNE for years and paid so much into the club. I accept that Ridsdale, who let's not forget is just a journeyman who has already been involved with a number of clubs, most of you are lifelong and coscientious customers. Ridsdale is 68 and will not be around forever and just as one of the directors who signalled his resignation recently, he can move on in the same manner, then Hemmings will have to find another servant. Sadly there was no mention of the training ground fiasco, but perhaps Trevor has that as a little xmas bonus for us all. I don't mind replies to this, but please no more of the" we could be like Bury or Wigan shit."
 
europne said:
Contradictions sir?

You say ‘no fans no football club’.

May I remind you that currently we can’t have fans, they currently can’t contribute in any meaningful way, but we do have a football club, ultimately financed by one individual.

I have supported this club for 60 years, I’ve also done my bit giving time and purchasing tickets and corporate stuff and other promotional activities for club and fan groups.

That is all history, we are in totally unknown territory for the club, football and business.

The club puts out a statement giving most fans some comfort in very difficult times, there are however the permanent whingers and whiners who always have to have a pop, never happy, always suspect another agenda and complain about lack of transfer actiivivty.

I’m sure the club would welcome a thousand pound donation of each true fan, peanuts to what is needed to keep the club afloat.

But the whingers who wouldn’t give 50 p of there own money, and probably want there season ticket money back, then complain about lack of investment in the club.

So do not have a pop at me, I have not contradicted anything I applaud all the stuff you mention which has been done in the past and which I have assisted to, however that does not give free reign for uncalled for criticism at a time and in a totally unprecedented situation.

It’s quite simple, I will spell it out to you, without TH paying the bills at this moment in time it would be no football club therefore no fans. What you paid last season or painted 40 years ago means nothing in the current situation.

The next 6 months are totally unknown, the financial implications are very concerning, I can’t see fans getting back in stadiums for some time, after last night you can’t even go in your neighbours house ffs.

I appreciate this won’t shut up the whingers, but that’s what they are, moaning twats, never satisfied.

Have a nice day.
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bowlandwhites said:
Can't disagree with any things you say . Wigan down the road can't find a potential buyer to put 100,000 bond down to start purchase.
TH could afford to walk away from PNE leaving depts he doesn't need to keep pumping money into that he will never get a return on.
If I was TH with the shit he gets I would have walked away long ago because what ever he does it will never be enough for some on here.
Probably those who think the gov should keep every one furloughed for ever.
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You have both spectacularly missed the point.

Nowhere in my post did I criticise or say we shouldn't be greatful to have Mr. Hemmings to at this time.

Neither did I "have a pop at your support."

What I do take exception to is your constant bashing of supporters who support the club to the best of their ability. You are constantly belittling supporters.

Yet again you state, why don't fans cough up £1000 each? You mean just like the share issues? When we got a pittance back in return when TJH took over the club.

Yet I am sure that if the optertunity arouse for part fan ownership again fans would step up the plate.

There are fans clamoring to buy season tickets, shirts and the like. Fans pushed the club to licence the terrace so they could support them.

At the present time we cant attend matches but I can assure if football fans could never return our club and football as a whole would die.

As I've said before. Many football fans have put in a higher percentage of our disposable income into supporting our club than the owner. If many of us where billioanires... yes a billionaire we would do what Hemmings does, infact many would do even more.

Yes support the owner but please stop belittling the contribution we all (yourself included) have made and will continue to make for decades to come.
 
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