I hear you brother
As age creeps on I’m sure a time will come when I forget why I even support them.
Riddler statement.
As age creeps on I’m sure a time will come when I forget why I even support them.
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Impressive list, thanks for posting.
In all fairness no one has promised that.
What people have said that is that these clubs have struggled with their finances which is why a lot of clubs in the championship had to furlough or defer players wages because they struggled to do so themselves.
I may be wrong (but doubt it) but there won’t be the huge transfer fees going around this summer. The three relegated clubs may but I can’t see clubs going all out this transfer window.
To be honest would you be happy if we furloughed staff so we can spend money because I certainly wouldn’t
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As PR said many of these clubs have had massive PAYE and VAT deferrals, as well as wages deferrals, which they are now beginning to have to pay at a time when income is almost non-existent.
Presumably it was tongue in cheek to say by Paddy that there have not been any clubs collapsing “yet” other than Wigan, but to imagine that there will not be a number of others is, I believe, naive to the extreme
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Great post.
Proves that there are strikers out there that we could (possibly) afford that will score goals. Would be interesting to know how many of those we could afford.
Didn't know Jutkiewicz scored that many last season, always thought that he was one of those strikers that always gave his best but never scored that many.
Trouble is we have to sell the ones we have and based on last season anything over a fiver each would be a bonus
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If it only costs us a fiver to get rid of them then we'll have done well.
I was going to pull all the ones that cost less than we got for Hugill but that would have been everyone on the list bar Mitrovic and Ayew!
I am not happy with our striker's but the myth is, just one more addition would make the difference it nonsense.
Your anti Hemmings stance is now in tatters, you come across as someone who would rather have AFC Preston.
Can you name anyone who would be remotely interested in taking on this loss making business even more so in the present climate?
Hemmings isn't perfect but your personal bitterness and jealousy towards our owner (certainly not God!) is a bit sad. Get out and enjoy the sun!
There isn't a single thing in that post you have gotten correct but that isn't surprising.
There we are then, I stand corrected,
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It's customary to actually win an argument before declaring victory.
I'm interested to know exactly why my belief that we need fresh ownership in order to help us push for the next level is in tatters?
As we finished just 4 points outside the playoffs exactly how do you reason that a better striker who would have scored more goals wouldn't have meant we made the playoffs? Kieffer Moore scored 4 goals post restart which resulted in 6 points for Wigan, 6 points would have put us in the playoffs and that's before you look at the 6 goals he scored prior to the shutdown.
Of course given I want new ownership (or for the current ownership to properly back the team) that means that I want to start a phoenix club in non-league.
As for new owners it isn't my job to find one, we already know there has been plenty of interest but Hemmings asking price is unrealistic so it is he alone that has us in a situation where prospective buyers are unwilling to submit serious interest.
What you and many others fail to realise is that by wanting new investment doesn't mean that everything he has done is bad and yes he has continued to support the club through the pandemic but that doesn't mean he is the best person to take the club forward.
Should we have kept Grayson knowing that we would finish mid table every season without ever getting close to challenging? Businesses, and indeed football clubs, that fail to move forwards inevitably go backwards.
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Whos that?.....
Is it tea time yet?
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Whos that?.....
Is it tea time yet?
Why am I sat in wet 😁
Paddy there is nobody wanting to take on the club as we know, we will be losing money hand over fist at the moment and for the foreseeable.
As you say we finished 4 points out of the play offs, dissapointed we were but respectable.
The example you are pushing with Keiffer Moore is purely hyperthetical .
The club could of signed another forward but more than likely used the budget on Baylis rightly or wrongly?
It can be argued Nugent/ Hemmings debacle was a another drain on the budget but it would ludicrous to warrant a change of ownership at present.
The problem the club has now in these unprecedented times is not just signing more players it is off loading signings from previous manager and Alex Neil that don't fit the plan going forward. The new wage cap for League 1 and 2 makes this more difficult. (I think its been in the Lep today).
I have been frustrated as many with owners and chairman over the decades but I believe Jones, Leeming, Woodhouse, Gray, Shaw and Hemmings were / are all fans and supporters of the club and did everything they could in all honesty for the cause.
So, right now I think a little bit of reality from fans is needed in these most difficult times.
As you say we finished 4 points out of the play offs, dissapointed we were but respectable.
The example you are pushing with Keiffer Moore is purely hyperthetical .
The club could of signed another forward but more than likely used the budget on Baylis rightly or wrongly?
It can be argued Nugent/ Hemmings debacle was a another drain on the budget but it would ludicrous to warrant a change of ownership at present.
The problem the club has now in these unprecedented times is not just signing more players it is off loading signings from previous manager and Alex Neil that don't fit the plan going forward. The new wage cap for League 1 and 2 makes this more difficult. (I think its been in the Lep today).
I have been frustrated as many with owners and chairman over the decades but I believe Jones, Leeming, Woodhouse, Gray, Shaw and Hemmings were / are all fans and supporters of the club and did everything they could in all honesty for the cause.
So, right now I think a little bit of reality from fans is needed in these most difficult times.
How exactly do you know this? Do you sit on the board?
Of course the Kieffer Moore example is hypothetical, we didn't sign a striker so how can it be anything but. You said that the myth was that by signing a decent striker we wouldn't have made the playoffs, I have shown you a striker we tried to sign and the impact he had at this level since the restart and then you start banging on about Bayliss. I'm not talking about our midfield.
I have said over and over again the fact we haven't signed a decent striker is why we have fallen away, I have given you evidence based on a target and you have completely ignored it and tried to start a different discussion.
There is literally no point discussing this further because you can't even see what is right in front of your face.
And i will say again, nobody is criticising the owner for supporting the club while there has been no income, whatever his motivations he has done it and that is all that can be asked through that period.
Once again though it doesn't change the fact that his attitude towards the squad strength and balance is about 50 years out of date
Its not fantasy football Paddy, its a business with real financial problems to resolve.
Who is going to take our cast offs?
Who will be putting in £1.5 million in next month?
Not you for sure, let us know when you have the next billionaire lined up!