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would have rather lost the game than lose Robbo, we need to be looking at all our training/playing routines, we are clearly running players into the ground. End of season safety can't come soon enough.
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Dazzler;n3405625 said:
Knowing our luck Rudd and Maxwell would both put their shoulders out having a snowball fight!
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You would expect Ireland's training methods to change now anyway, because they have just fired their management team.
kbd_pne;n3405565 said:
Its not unheard of for players to play on after doing their ACL - only to go down again 5 or 10 mins later......the muscles round the ligament take over and can mask the initial seriousness of the injury....hence walking off isnt unusual.
Good to see a few PNE players in there.
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Football players get injured. Footballers are now monitored for miles covered per match.
Training for football has always focuses on stamina, agility and speed. Compared to other sports, strength training is not a huge component. Indeed, I am led to believe that Alan Browne and Tom Clarke can be seen frequenting a well known local health and fitness gym in the afternoon, to do strength training which, clearly, they haven't been doing at North End's training sessions.
Where strength training is concerned, in my opinion and experience, there is a threshold the body gets to when athleticism, lithesome qualities, suppleness, speed and agility are actually hindered by muscle growth. Equally, a common cause of hamstring tears is an imbalance between quad and hamstring. Thus, if a player is both strengthening the quads without matching this with equivalent work on the hamstrings, or, indeed, over strengthening the hamstrings (and with bulk comes more tightness) there is an increased loss of the attributes that make a footballer an efficient specimen.
It does occur to me that too much bodybuilding is causing undue tightness to the muscles, or indeed causing the muscles to be overtired due to weights in between matches.
Or it could be nothing of the sort and the increase in injuries are simply down to the high press, high tempo style of play for Alex Neil''s tactics and those who haven't been used to this pressing style have been found physically unable to meet the mark.
Maguire is probably a retirement case, if what I hear about his pelvic injury is to be believed. Robinson's body is probably in need of good rest anyway, after a fine couple of years of progress.
Training for football has always focuses on stamina, agility and speed. Compared to other sports, strength training is not a huge component. Indeed, I am led to believe that Alan Browne and Tom Clarke can be seen frequenting a well known local health and fitness gym in the afternoon, to do strength training which, clearly, they haven't been doing at North End's training sessions.
Where strength training is concerned, in my opinion and experience, there is a threshold the body gets to when athleticism, lithesome qualities, suppleness, speed and agility are actually hindered by muscle growth. Equally, a common cause of hamstring tears is an imbalance between quad and hamstring. Thus, if a player is both strengthening the quads without matching this with equivalent work on the hamstrings, or, indeed, over strengthening the hamstrings (and with bulk comes more tightness) there is an increased loss of the attributes that make a footballer an efficient specimen.
It does occur to me that too much bodybuilding is causing undue tightness to the muscles, or indeed causing the muscles to be overtired due to weights in between matches.
Or it could be nothing of the sort and the increase in injuries are simply down to the high press, high tempo style of play for Alex Neil''s tactics and those who haven't been used to this pressing style have been found physically unable to meet the mark.
Maguire is probably a retirement case, if what I hear about his pelvic injury is to be believed. Robinson's body is probably in need of good rest anyway, after a fine couple of years of progress.
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What's this about Maguire's pelvic injury paolo?
sports rehab;n3405812 said:
Well said. My ACL tear was pain free, but I knew it had gone as i saw my ski gently twist my knee then heard and felt a distinct pop - but no pain till an hour or later as the muscles went into spasm.
To be fair, if you look at the pictures of Harrop being subbed he looks in serious pain.
Not sure the club can justify selling our top scorer for the second January running, whilst still trying to sell season tickets on the basis that we're going for the Premier League. Wouldn't put it past this owner, though.
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giro;n3408200 said:
Not sure that Robbo would get into a Bournemouth side yet anyway, and he will know that. One thing about Callum Robinson is that he loves playing as much as any player we've got, and I seriously don't think he's ready for that yet, and hope his head rules his heart if they do make an offer. To be honest even if they shouted about £10m I for one would hate to see him go, because I think he has far more potential, probably more than Hugill. Stay put Robbo.
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If Bournemouth seriously want him, he'll be gone.
Nice One.
Nice One.
sedgwick__7;n3408223 said:
Totally agree, how will the club sell next season ST's if we have sold our main Strikers in 3 windows. It shows signs that we still are a selling club and there's no ambition from the owner. Plus the fact we will have finished mid-table or even bottom 3(top 10 looks so unlikely imho).
I feel for AN and PR, working with TH and keeping fans happy must be incredibly difficult. It's like TH says to them, here's 20k, go and find 8 Bedroom house in Broughton somewhere.
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Mickypne;n3408234 said:
Easy🙂🙂