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Ryan Lowe

bowlandwhites said:
Only 4 points off last seasons total & that includes a horrendous start under Frankie
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9pts ahead of where we were at the same stage last season as well.

Only 3pts behind where we were under AN in his first season when we finished 7th.

This league in terms of quality this year is such a much of muchness. A real opportunity missed
 
baysidepne said:
9pts ahead of where we were at the same stage last season as well.

Only 3pts behind where we were under AN in his first season when we finished 7th.

This league in terms of quality this year is such a much of muchness. A real opportunity missed
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Very much so. A bit more imagination last summer and who knows?

Fair enough, you could argue that McAvoy earnt his chance but in their heart or hearts I think even his supporters at the time must have had their doubts. At the very time a "decision" was actually required Ridsdale (or Hemmings?) took the easy (or cheap) way out and effectively absolved themsevles of responsibility.
 
8/10 so far.
we are harder to beat but still lack a bit of gloss. Should have dipped our bread V QPR as they were pretty bad.
Better judged in the long term after 2 summer transfer windows.
We‘ve signed surplus players up until the summer of 2023.
RL has only used 17 of his contracted players in his match day squad so far. Says it all.
We’ve wasted a lot of money.
I welcome his intended approach of bringing in ‘robust’ players who can/will play 40 games a season.
 
baysidepne said:
9pts ahead of where we were at the same stage last season as well.

Only 3pts behind where we were under AN in his first season when we finished 7th.

This league in terms of quality this year is such a much of muchness. A real opportunity missed
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Thing is if you look at the top 4, right now, Id have fancied our chances if we`d snuck into the Play Offs.
 
Nottingham forest seem very strong to me and form table confirms it, very solid team.

On the whole the championship is mostly shite, I don't see that changing next season either. It's always the same, we'd need a tight first team group extremely drilled then you've always got a chance. Like Luton and their manager.
 
Longsandswhites said:
8/10 so far.
we are harder to beat but still lack a bit of gloss. Should have dipped our bread V QPR as they were pretty bad.
Better judged in the long term after 2 summer transfer windows.
We‘ve signed surplus players up until the summer of 2023.
RL has only used 17 of his contracted players in his match day squad so far. Says it all.
We’ve wasted a lot of money.
I welcome his intended approach of bringing in ‘robust’ players who can/will play 40 games a season.
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Agree with all of this except (being pedantic) I'd go 7/10.

Being critical, I think we've looked poor (read: a touch of Frankieball creeping in and the lack of McCann) in a couple of games and - whilst that's not RL's fault as he's not on the pitch - the buck does stop with him.

Really hoping he's backed in the Summer and we get to clear out those players holding us back, adding the qualify we know we need elsewhere.

UTW
 
Frankie’s record this season was W6 D7 L8. Points per game 1.14. Recent manager with similar record: Phil Brown.
Ryan Lowe W8 D8 L4. Points per game 1.60. Recent manager with similar record: Simon Grayson.
He knows he needs to avoid so many draws. If he can, he’ll be in Moyes/Davies territory of 1.70 points per game.
 
baysidepne said:
9pts ahead of where we were at the same stage last season as well.

Only 3pts behind where we were under AN in his first season when we finished 7th.

This league in terms of quality this year is such a much of muchness. A real opportunity missed
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I'm not sure to be honest. It feels like people have been saying "The Championship is poor this season" every year after our first season back in the league.

Even with a full season of RL, a full season of Archer and no key injuries, I just don't think we'd have had the quality to break the top 6.

Top two are brimming with quality. Sheff United and Nottingham Forest are both very good on their day. Middlesbrough, Huddersfield and Luton are seriously well coached.
 
Lee Trundle said:
I'm not sure to be honest. It feels like people have been saying "The Championship is poor this season" every year after our first season back in the league.

Even with a full season of RL, a full season of Archer and no key injuries, I just don't think we'd have had the quality to break the top 6.

Top two are brimming with quality. Sheff United and Nottingham Forest are both very good on their day. Middlesbrough, Huddersfield and Luton are seriously well coached.
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Yet, as it stands, despite our dreadful start to the season we are only 5 behind middlesbro and 8 behind luton and sheff utd.
 
raefil said:
Yet, as it stands, despite our dreadful start to the season we are only 5 behind middlesbro and 8 behind luton and sheff utd.
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True, but it definitely feels like our PPG under RL is a lot higher than some of the performances have justified.

Can't think of too many draws that we should really have won. Can think of plenty of draws we should really have lost.

Over a whole season, I dont think we make up the 8 point gap
 
Lee Trundle said:
True, but it definitely feels like our PPG under RL is a lot higher than some of the performances have justified.

Can't think of too many draws that we should really have won. Can think of plenty of draws we should really have lost.

Over a whole season, I dont think we make up the 8 point gap
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Probably deserved to win the Huddersfield and Notts Forest game at home. Could also include Birmingham at home where the performance deserved the win.

Whilst not totally deserved you could also look at the Coventry game where we conceded with the last kick and the Millwall game where we win if Whiteman scores the pen.

I’d say altogether you could probably argue we are a couple of points short of where we probably should be.
 
Lee Trundle said:
True, but it definitely feels like our PPG under RL is a lot higher than some of the performances have justified.

Can't think of too many draws that we should really have won. Can think of plenty of draws we should really have lost.

Over a whole season, I dont think we make up the 8 point gap
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Forest/Huddersfield. Dominated both sides and should have won both. Away side had hardly a chance so shouldn’t have lost them.

Birmingham better team until they scored in the 87th minute.

Coventry scored in the 98th. Better team in that game too.

Millwal we missed a penalty.

A game aspiring for the play offs would have picked three points in all them games.

That’s five without thinking.

The two we probably should have lost - Bristol city and shef u at home.

Under Lowe I feel our performances have deserved better results. It’s finishing chances that has let us down.
 
RibbletonWhite said:
A game aspiring for the play offs would have picked three points in all them games.

That’s five without thinking.

The two we probably should have lost - Bristol city and shef u at home.

Under Lowe I feel our performances have deserved better results. It’s finishing chances that has let us down.
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Same could be said for every team in the championship!
Also how many points has Archer won us? And without the ridiculous ninth minute of eight added on !!!!!!! at Coventry it would be two more!
 
Take any team in the top half of the championship this season, add a whole season with a fit Mitrovic next season and you have a top two side !!
Goals mean points, points mean promotion !!
That's why if you are a billionaire and you WANT your side to go up, you don't have to be a genius to facilitate it !!
 
diggerb said:
Same could be said for every team in the championship!
Also how many points has Archer won us? And without the ridiculous ninth minute of eight added on !!!!!!! at Coventry it would be two more!
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I was just responding to the point that under Lowe there were plenty of draws we should have lost.

When Infact if you think of all the games we have drawn under Lowe it’s quite the opposite.

But seeing us try to win games rather than hold out for a draw like we did under the past two numpties is refreshing.
 
simo said:
I don't think that there is much doubt that Lowe is a more experienced, intelligent and accomplished manager (or head coach!) than McAvoy in practically every respect.

McAvoy managed 25 points off 21 games (55 over a season), Lowe 32 off 20 (74 a season). The difference between limping home to the end of the season just avoiding relegation and a serious go at the playoffs.
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Just to add to that, you could also argue some of the recent games under Lowe have been dead rubbers, whereas all games under Frankie meant something.
 
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