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Yep, spot on is that. Nothing will change until we find a way of getting more players who have played professionally into refereeing, some of the bozos have hardly played at any level and boy does it show.
Won't be the case with the youngsters who are doing it these days, they most likely get into it because of the love of the game.
But some of the referees we have in this league haven't been doing it since they were kids because the infrastructure wasn't there like it is today, they have gone into it in later life and you can just tell by the way they referee the game and the way they act that they are the way I described in my previous posts.
Some of them get manipulated by "famous" players because they crave the validation, they bottle big decisions because they don't have a spine, at times they love being in the power position meaning they play the villain and in some cases they have to make the game all about them.
I'm getting tired of big decisions not being given against the big teams in this league and then the referee's having a joke and a laugh with the premier league has beens in the league because they've watched them on MOTD in the Newcastle, Man Utd, Wolves, Arsenal, Aston Villa and now Stoke games we have had referees like the ones I have explained, even in games we have managed to win.
Referee's in the championship and premiership aren't at a good standard. They are paid quite a bit of money and something needs to be done to change the quality of these referee's.
Young referee's refereeing Sunday league or kids football shouldn't be getting abuse. That is out of order. But we aren't talking about young referee's we are talking about refs in the top two tiers of English football.
They need to be better and too many refs do have the attitude that it is all about them. They are not consistent enough and are too protected and for me, more punishments for bad performances need to be looked at. This needs to come from the top and so it needs to start with Mike Riley.
Dry your tears Harry. I was obviously referring to the ones at professional level, and not the 13 year old boys who do it for 20 quid a pop.
Have you come onto the forum with the intention of trying to get offended?
Was the guy who refereed yesterday the one we had when we were last promoted ?
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Yes that was him
Yes, but we’ve had him several times since and he’s had poor games
going right through the back of 'Robbo' just for starters.
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The point I'm making Kingy is yesterday's ref for example was one of the Madley brothers who are celebrated for their meteoric rise through the game as youngsters in the Yorkshire leagues. If refs like him keep getting put off doing it at a young age because of how they see older refs being treated and other young refs, they'll quit - that then leaves a much smaller pool to select refs from higher up the ladder and so the quality isn't as good.
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I'm not defending the challenge in any way, as it was a bad one, but he did not plant his elbow in Allen's face; he caught him on the lower side of his jaw. Rowett also alleged Allen ended up with a cut on the bridge of his nose as a result of the challenge, that's another attempt to make a bad challenge sound like there was an intent to commit serious injury, which I don't believe is the case as it would be completely out of character for Gally.
Thought so
I too thought he lost it somewhat yesterday on both sides. Cannot call him biased as Gallagher should have been sent off
Where he lost it was total inconstancy with his decisions. Cards for minimal issues and the total converse. Hopefully he will have the self awareness to watch it back and learn from it ?
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Have you not just described exactly the process of planting an elbow into someone's face? Gallagher purposefully landed his elbow/forearm into the cheek and jaw of Allen, which in my book is still his face, even if it's on the side.
Allen did get a cut on his nose. The blood was clearly visible from our position on the Pavilion in real time and it was mended in the dugouts in front of us. It's also clearly visible in the highlights. Whether Gallagher's elbow/forearm caused it is interesting.
According to the footage, Gally's arm makes contact with Allen's cheek and jaw, not his nose. However, there was an ensuing melee around Allen whilst he was on the floor. Pearson was the first to approach Allen and bent down to grab him. In real time it looked as if he was just trying to pick him up.
However I wouldn't be surprised if Pearson, being the little shit he is, was the one who left Allen with the bloodied nose. Unfortunately (or 'fortunately' in our case) the tv highlights cut away from the incident before the guilty party can be identified.
Saying that the action is out of character is irrelevant. We hear it used every time to defend a player committing an act of malice. Either way, Gally will surely receive some retrospective ban.
If that's a joke, don't give up your day job.
An ex-work colleague of mine who I am still in touch knows Ryan Shawcross very well. Went to the same school etc. Apparently all is not well personally, not sure whether the cause or effect of his poor performances over the last 12 months. Certainly though he has been past his peak now so his performance kind of made sense in that it was "tetchy" as if something was permanently bothering him.
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Shame to hear he's struggling personally, he's a real bruiser of a centre-half and I think he'll do well in this league if his head is on properly. Nmecha and Moult won't face many physically tougher assignments than playing against Shawcross and Williams, even their back up in Bruno Martins Indi is an absolute unit.
I do feel they would have really struggled against Maguire or even Barkhuizen through the middle though.
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Allen cut his nose when he hit the deck, landed hard flat on his face.
It was a poor challenge from Gally and I'm not buying that he didn't intend it as Neil makes out either, he tried to do someone else about 10 minutes earlier too.
Allen got booked for that challenge on Robbo which was probably correct, he then made at least two cynical challenges later in the game trying to stop our counter attacks for which Madley played advantage for, both were bookable offences but Madley's incompetence let it slide.
It was a poor challenge from Gally and I'm not buying that he didn't intend it as Neil makes out either, he tried to do someone else about 10 minutes earlier too.
Allen got booked for that challenge on Robbo which was probably correct, he then made at least two cynical challenges later in the game trying to stop our counter attacks for which Madley played advantage for, both were bookable offences but Madley's incompetence let it slide.
The ref shouldn’t play advantage if it’s a red card or second yellow, he should stop the game and send him off.
That’s exactly what he should have done.