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mdsstfpbphes

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There are so many pointless threads on this forum over the past few months, some might include this one in that category.

When are people going to understand what was really said by CH and PR, the other week.

I'll try and summarise:-
1) The family will continue to support PNE
2) The family decides the financial constraints that PR and the club operates under, not this forum
3) Craig basically agreed with his dad that the financial constraints applied to PNE and is not going to change them
4) The family have to considered the investment needed across the group to protect 1,000's of job and not just PNE. The members of the forum have zero experience of owning and running a billion pound group of companies
5) Craig Hemmings and another lady(can't remember her name) who works for the family sign-off any new financial commitments not this forum or PR
6) PR sticks to the rules and does in the families opinion does a good job and is trusted by them. What the forum say is completely irrelevant as they have never run a football club and haven't got a scooby-doo on how to.
7) PR does not decide which players are sign, he only does the financial side of things. FM and his team identify who they want and the priority. It's up to PR to find out if they can fit into the financial constraints that the club operates under.
8) Craig said that some fans misunderstood the recruitment process and PR's role in that process. I would be less polite and they wanted someone to blame and PR was the obvious one. For some it's blind hatred and some posts are very abusive.
8) FM is doing OK, could be better but we are going to give him a chance to get better. After all he his a rookie manager and we'll give him a good chance. The forum can run as many polls as they want but it's the Hemming's family and PR to decide when it's time to move on.

When forum members continue to cry wolf then it would be no surprise that the club and the Hemmings family stops listening.

As a one-liner I would Summarise it as.

WE ARE IN CHARGE, NOT THE FORUM AS THEY HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE ON HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB

As for me the only the only thing that I can influence is match day and back the team on the pitch, doesn't really matter what I think about how the club is run. I do think that all of this negativity does get back to the players and can only have a detrimental impact on them which is a bad thing.
 
mdsstfpbphes said:
There are so many pointless threads on this forum over the past few months, some might include this one in that category.

When are people going to understand what was really said by CH and PR, the other week.

I'll try and summarise:-
1) The family will continue to support PNE
2) The family decides the financial constraints that PR and the club operates under, not this forum
3) Craig basically agreed with his dad that the financial constraints applied to PNE and is not going to change them
4) The family have to considered the investment needed across the group to protect 1,000's of job and not just PNE. The members of the forum have zero experience of owning and running a billion pound group of companies
5) Craig Hemmings and another lady(can't remember her name) who works for the family sign-off any new financial commitments not this forum or PR
6) PR sticks to the rules and does in the families opinion does a good job and is trusted by them. What the forum say is completely irrelevant as they have never run a football club and haven't got a scooby-doo on how to.
7) PR does not decide which players are sign, he only does the financial side of things. FM and his team identify who they want and the priority. It's up to PR to find out if they can fit into the financial constraints that the club operates under.
8) Craig said that some fans misunderstood the recruitment process and PR's role in that process. I would be less polite and they wanted someone to blame and PR was the obvious one. For some it's blind hatred and some posts are very abusive.
8) FM is doing OK, could be better but we are going to give him a chance to get better. After all he his a rookie manager and we'll give him a good chance. The forum can run as many polls as they want but it's the Hemming's family and PR to decide when it's time to move on.

When forum members continue to cry wolf then it would be no surprise that the club and the Hemmings family stops listening.

As a one-liner I would Summarise it as.

WE ARE IN CHARGE, NOT THE FORUM AS THEY HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE ON HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB

As for me the only the only thing that I can influence is match day and back the team on the pitch, doesn't really matter what I think about how the club is run. I do think that all of this negativity does get back to the players and can only have a detrimental impact on them which is a bad thing.
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If (as you claim) "what the forum say is completely irrelevant" and "the forum can run as many polls as they want", then how can it be that "all of this negativity does get back to the players"?

It's either irrelevant and has no effect, or it has an effect because it isn't irrelevant after all.

You can type as many ALL CAPS as you like, but you can't have it both ways.
 
mdsstfpbphes said:
There are so many pointless threads on this forum over the past few months, some might include this one in that category.

When are people going to understand what was really said by CH and PR, the other week.

I'll try and summarise:-
1) The family will continue to support PNE
2) The family decides the financial constraints that PR and the club operates under, not this forum
3) Craig basically agreed with his dad that the financial constraints applied to PNE and is not going to change them
4) The family have to considered the investment needed across the group to protect 1,000's of job and not just PNE. The members of the forum have zero experience of owning and running a billion pound group of companies
5) Craig Hemmings and another lady(can't remember her name) who works for the family sign-off any new financial commitments not this forum or PR
6) PR sticks to the rules and does in the families opinion does a good job and is trusted by them. What the forum say is completely irrelevant as they have never run a football club and haven't got a scooby-doo on how to.
7) PR does not decide which players are sign, he only does the financial side of things. FM and his team identify who they want and the priority. It's up to PR to find out if they can fit into the financial constraints that the club operates under.
8) Craig said that some fans misunderstood the recruitment process and PR's role in that process. I would be less polite and they wanted someone to blame and PR was the obvious one. For some it's blind hatred and some posts are very abusive.
8) FM is doing OK, could be better but we are going to give him a chance to get better. After all he his a rookie manager and we'll give him a good chance. The forum can run as many polls as they want but it's the Hemming's family and PR to decide when it's time to move on.

When forum members continue to cry wolf then it would be no surprise that the club and the Hemmings family stops listening.

As a one-liner I would Summarise it as.

WE ARE IN CHARGE, NOT THE FORUM AS THEY HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE ON HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB

As for me the only the only thing that I can influence is match day and back the team on the pitch, doesn't really matter what I think about how the club is run. I do think that all of this negativity does get back to the players and can only have a detrimental impact on them which is a bad thing.
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Another patronising sycophant, 10 YEARS OF RISDALE AND WE ARE IN DECLINE !
 
Thracia said:
If (as you claim) "what the forum say is completely irrelevant" and "the forum can run as many polls as they want", then how can it be that "all of this negativity does get back to the players"?

It's either irrelevant and has no effect, or it has an effect because it isn't irrelevant after all.

You can type as many ALL CAPS as you like, but you can't have it both ways.
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With respect I think that you missed my point.

1) The management take no notice, making it pointless
2) If you agree that it influences the players and has a negative impact on them. Then surely that is also pointless unless of course you want the club to decline with poor performances on the pitch.
 
mdsstfpbphes said:
There are so many pointless threads on this forum over the past few months, some might include this one in that category.

When are people going to understand what was really said by CH and PR, the other week.

I'll try and summarise:-
1) The family will continue to support PNE
2) The family decides the financial constraints that PR and the club operates under, not this forum
3) Craig basically agreed with his dad that the financial constraints applied to PNE and is not going to change them
4) The family have to considered the investment needed across the group to protect 1,000's of job and not just PNE. The members of the forum have zero experience of owning and running a billion pound group of companies
5) Craig Hemmings and another lady(can't remember her name) who works for the family sign-off any new financial commitments not this forum or PR
6) PR sticks to the rules and does in the families opinion does a good job and is trusted by them. What the forum say is completely irrelevant as they have never run a football club and haven't got a scooby-doo on how to.
7) PR does not decide which players are sign, he only does the financial side of things. FM and his team identify who they want and the priority. It's up to PR to find out if they can fit into the financial constraints that the club operates under.
8) Craig said that some fans misunderstood the recruitment process and PR's role in that process. I would be less polite and they wanted someone to blame and PR was the obvious one. For some it's blind hatred and some posts are very abusive.
8) FM is doing OK, could be better but we are going to give him a chance to get better. After all he his a rookie manager and we'll give him a good chance. The forum can run as many polls as they want but it's the Hemming's family and PR to decide when it's time to move on.

When forum members continue to cry wolf then it would be no surprise that the club and the Hemmings family stops listening.

As a one-liner I would Summarise it as.

WE ARE IN CHARGE, NOT THE FORUM AS THEY HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE ON HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB

As for me the only the only thing that I can influence is match day and back the team on the pitch, doesn't really matter what I think about how the club is run. I do think that all of this negativity does get back to the players and can only have a detrimental impact on them which is a bad thing.
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We have had 60+ years of negativity from the club why are you surprised it’s caught on. Unbelievable.
 
mdsstfpbphes said:
With respect I think that you missed my point.

1) The management take no notice, making it pointless
2) If you agree that it influences the players and has a negative impact on them. Then surely that is also pointless unless of course you want the club to decline with poor performances on the pitch.
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I haven't missed your point, I've identified the fundamental contradiction at the heart of it, and you haven't addressed that.

If what the fans say and think really didn't matter, you wouldn't be posting threads like this telling us to stop doing it.
 
Its this 'you've never run a football club so you've no idea what you're talking about' attitude from the OP and Ridsdale himself which is part of the problem. Its patronising nonsense to suggest that none of the fan base have the slightest clue how to run a football club.

It's nothing short of an insult. I think Ridsdale maybe hears shouts like I heard at Birmingham which he reacted to such as 'spend some money Peter you fat ****' and chucks us all in the same bracket as that complete moron.

As supporters who have followed the club since long before Peter stepped through the door, we have a right to express our opinions on how the club is run & a right to express our opinion as to who should or shouldn't be running it based on what we see week on week.
 
Thracia said:
I haven't missed your point, I've identified the fundamental contradiction at the heart of it, and you haven't addressed that.

If what the fans say and think really didn't matter, you wouldn't be posting threads like this telling us to stop doing it.
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I'm not telling you to stop, just don't think the club will be taking much notice
 
NG White said:
Its this 'you've never run a football club so you've no idea what you're talking about' attitude from the OP and Ridsdale himself which is part of the problem. Its patronising nonsense to suggest that none of the fan base have the slightest clue how to run a football club.

It's nothing short of an insult. I think Ridsdale maybe hears shouts like I heard at Birmingham which he reacted to such as 'spend some money Peter you fat ****' and chucks us all in the same bracket as that complete moron.

As supporters who have followed the club since long before Peter stepped through the door, we have a right to express our opinions on how the club is run & a right to express our opinion as to who should or shouldn't be running it based on what we see week on week.
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You could say that it's rather arrogant to think that they can
 
mdsstfpbphes said:
There are so many pointless threads on this forum over the past few months, some might include this one in that category.
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In your opinion.
mdsstfpbphes said:
When are people going to understand what was really said by CH and PR, the other week.

I'll try and summarise:-
1) The family will continue to support PNE
2) The family decides the financial constraints that PR and the club operates under, not this forum
3) Craig basically agreed with his dad that the financial constraints applied to PNE and is not going to change them
4) The family have to considered the investment needed across the group to protect 1,000's of job and not just PNE. The members of the forum have zero experience of owning and running a billion pound group of companies
5) Craig Hemmings and another lady(can't remember her name) who works for the family sign-off any new financial commitments not this forum or PR
6) PR sticks to the rules and does in the families opinion does a good job and is trusted by them. What the forum say is completely irrelevant as they have never run a football club and haven't got a scooby-doo on how to.
7) PR does not decide which players are sign, he only does the financial side of things. FM and his team identify who they want and the priority. It's up to PR to find out if they can fit into the financial constraints that the club operates under.
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You just appear to be repeating what we already know. I assume that given you have listed all of the above you believe every word and don't feel any of it is open to scrutiny?

mdsstfpbphes said:
8) Craig said that some fans misunderstood the recruitment process and PR's role in that process. I would be less polite and they wanted someone to blame and PR was the obvious one. For some it's blind hatred and some posts are very abusive.
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I don't agree with any personal abuse but it's more than fair to be critical of Peter's role in terms of recruitment.

I firmly believe he has too much influence on that aspect of his role at the club regardless of Craig saying its a misconception.

mdsstfpbphes said:
8) FM is doing OK, could be better but we are going to give him a chance to get better. After all he his a rookie manager and we'll give him a good chance. The forum can run as many polls as they want but it's the Hemming's family and PR to decide when it's time to move on.
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I think in total there have been three polls. Two in terms of Peter's role and one regarding the manager.

To be clear the forum does not "run polls" our patrons can add post polls to gauge the views of other forum members.

Whether anyone at the club chooses to take any notice of said polls is up to them.


mdsstfpbphes said:
When forum members continue to cry wolf then it would be no surprise that the club and the Hemmings family stops listening.
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Cry wolf about what? The forum has often worked closely with the football club over many years on mutually beneficial areas.

Whilst they dont always agree with content they fully apprecaite our role in the PNE community.

I don't like referring to it but in the case I will. INGOL......
mdsstfpbphes said:
As a one-liner I would Summarise it as.

WE ARE IN CHARGE, NOT THE FORUM AS THEY HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE ON HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB
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Didn't realise you knew the full background of all the forum members.

There are probably some very capable people on the board.

mdsstfpbphes said:
As for me the only the only thing that I can influence is match day and back the team on the pitch, doesn't really matter what I think about how the club is run.
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mdsstfpbphes said:
I do think that all of this negativity does get back to the players and can only have a detrimental impact on them which is a bad thing.
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I assume you have missed the contradictions of the above two posts.

Whilst we may be critical of the club, players, or management at times most of us I am sure always get fully behind the team on a match day.

Maybe it's thier time to give us a reason not to be negative and actually give us some hope again.

We are all entitled to different views and the fact we allow a user to post a thread basically being negative about many of our users shows that forum is always open to those differing views.
 
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mdsstfpbphes said:
I'm not telling you to stop, just don't think the club will be taking much notice
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How about this then - we continue expressing our opinions (which is the whole purpose of the forum), and we'll all see whether or not the club takes any notice.

That's the club that yesterday announced a flurry of "Head of Department" hat changes in response to their obvious concern with the current disconnect between club and fanbase.

Which looks like a club desperately trying to take notice of the fans to me.
 
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