Standards?

[MOSSYPNE]

Thanks for the reply, I assume my opinion is somehow more valid now than it was previously when I made a criticism of you recently and you resorted to belittling me. Certainly your tone seems to have changed somewhat.

Anyway....I don't think Nobber is completely innocent in all of this, nor do I think he is without fault. But was your persistence in getting rid of him altogether necessary? Yes, he has gone a bit far with WIBG sometimes, but really your the only one on here who thinks he doesn't bring that on himself. In my opinion, your conduct recently towards not only Nobber but Ron and a few others has been disgusting. You've admitted in the past in the past you enjoy stirring up trouble, calling other aspects of the forum boring, and so don't see it as unfair to deem you the most guilty in all of this jumping to the defence of WIBG just so you can have your fun.

Your opinion is never valid cha. I responded to you because you swallowed his victim card.

Where did I say I wanted rid of him? Can you give me a link to that, cheers.

As for Ron, well were do we start. I honestly believe he could well be you. Desperate to be seen as 'in' on the forum, desperate to gain support from anywhere he can (maybe for a Mod election?) and seems intent on creating some sort of 'history' between us.

I've had two infractions in 10 years, not the record of someone who 'stirring up trouble' is it?

I'm not on here to make friends and curry favour, unlike you and Ron, I'm here to break up the boring parts of my day. If what I have to say upsets you, well sorry but tough shit.

And you can report that one cha.

And don't forget that link.

 

[Benito]

Your opinion is never valid cha. I responded to you because you swallowed his victim card.

Where did I say I wanted rid of him? Can you give me a link to that, cheers.

As for Ron, well were do we start. I honestly believe he could well be you. Desperate to be seen as 'in' on the forum, desperate to gain support from anywhere he can (maybe for a Mod election?) and seems intent on creating some sort of 'history' between us.

I've had two infractions in 10 years, not the record of someone who 'stirring up trouble' is it?

I'm not on here to make friends and curry favour, unlike you and Ron, I'm here to break up the boring parts of my day. If what I have to say upsets you, well sorry but tough shit.

And you can report that one cha.

And don't forget that link.

Good to see you've returned to the usual 'wannabe cool' rhetoric and resorting to putting people down again.🙄

Maybe you weren't aiming to get rid of him, but as you've made clear, you didn't think much of him as a moderator. That and supporting WIBG, who has openly admitted to deliberately trying to make the mods look bad to get rid of them. Doesn't look good really. You've just achieved more than you were actually aiming for, which you've admitted you're not unhappy about.

I don't need to be 'in' on the forum. The fact you think an argument with yourself is something 'to make a name' for someone is pretty laughable. The only one obsessed with how people think of them is you.

Quite clearly nobody likes me here much, but does it stop me posting? No. I'll continue to give my opinions that are never valid.

Ps, I won't be reporting you, that's tame compared to the needless bile you've spouted recently.

 

[MOSSYPNE]

Good to see you've returned to the usual 'wannabe cool' rhetoric and resorting to putting people down again.🙄

Maybe you weren't aiming to get rid of him, but as you've made clear, you didn't think much of him as a moderator. That and supporting WIBG, who has openly admitted to deliberately trying to make the mods look bad to get rid of them. Doesn't look good really. You've just achieved more than you were actually aiming for, which you've admitted you're not unhappy about.

I don't need to be 'in' on the forum. The fact you think an argument with yourself is something 'to make a name' for someone is pretty laughable. The only one obsessed with how people think of them is you.

Quite clearly nobody likes me here much, but does it stop me posting? No. I'll continue to give my opinions that are never valid.

Putting people down is what I do best.

So now I wasn't aiming to get rid of him? Make your mind up son.

I don't get this 'supporting WIBG' bit, in what way was I 'supporting WIBG? I pointed out to the Mods, twice, the injustice of two Mods harassing another poster, Nobber took offense at this and this sparked what you see here. Yes me and Nobber were always going to clash at some point, this possibly hurried that along a tad. I don't support what WIBG does or doesn't do, if you're stupid enough to fall for his patter then you deserve what he gives. Simple.

For someone who doesn't need to be 'in' on a forum you don't half prostitute your views out to the side you believe will get you the most 'cred', try thinking for yourself and you'd do better.

And yes, nobody likes you, that's the only thing you've got right.

 

[MOSSYPNE]

Anyway he's back.

 

[Liberation]

Anyway he's back.

Good.. I for one wouldn't like to see ANY "characters" lost from this forum... Not One !

 

[MOSSYPNE]

Good.. I for one wouldn't like to see ANY "characters" lost from this forum... Not One !

And I agree.

But I won't lose sleep over it.....

 

[Benito]

Putting people down is what I do best.

So now I wasn't aiming to get rid of him? Make your mind up son.

I don't get this 'supporting WIBG' bit, in what way was I 'supporting WIBG? I pointed out to the Mods, twice, the injustice of two Mods harassing another poster, Nobber took offense at this and this sparked what you see here. Yes me and Nobber were always going to clash at some point, this possibly hurried that along a tad. I don't support what WIBG does or doesn't do, if you're stupid enough to fall for his patter then you deserve what he gives. Simple.

For someone who doesn't need to be 'in' on a forum you don't half prostitute your views out to the side you believe will get you the most 'cred', try thinking for yourself and you'd do better.

And yes, nobody likes you, that's the only thing you've got right.

If you honestly believe you haven't come across in a way that is much more than WIBG's little helper, you're quite deluded. If you didn't want to get rid of Nobber completely, which I can't honestly believe, you certainly wanted the same thing as WIBG.

As for my views, it's funny you should mention them. They have actually shifted somewhat. Previously I saw the same thing as you, Nobber and maybe some others targeting WIBG. However, it has become apparent to me that he knows exactly what he's doing given he actually set out to achieve certain things and really anyone who genuinely sympathises with him for that is an utter cretin.

Anyway, 'prostituting' my views certainly hasn't worked if that's what I've supposedly been doing. As I'm sure you've noticed I've failed to be a mod a number of times. i just don't really care, hence why I'll be standing again and if by some miracle I get in I'll be all for a much tougher stance against this who pollute the forum with crap. 😛

 

[billymac]

I changed the Username because I wanted to because I saw how people had online Alter Ego's per say and wanted one.

What a complete and utter chinless nomark you really are Ron, mummy mummy I want a Raleigh Copper for Xmas (stamping feet and pouting) like all the other boys/girls, there there son would you like a noddy bell too as that will make you even better than the other boys/girls.

I just filled my Tenna for Men and can't stop crying too, comedy gold Ron.

 

[billymac]

No bullying here mate, if I wanted to do that I would appear by your seat on the North End.

I have things perfectly in perspective. As the other pillock you're a fucking liar who cant take what you dish out.

Prick.

Nobber, I have known you for many years, we have exchanged some proper messages and if I can offer you one small piece of sincere advice, stop this now old chum.

 

[MOSSYPNE]

If you honestly believe you haven't come across in a way that is much more than WIBG's little helper, you're quite deluded. If you didn't want to get rid of Nobber completely, which I can't honestly believe, you certainly wanted the same thing as WIBG.

As for my views, it's funny you should mention them. They have actually shifted somewhat. Previously I saw the same thing as you, Nobber and maybe some others targeting WIBG. However, it has become apparent to me that he knows exactly what he's doing given he actually set out to achieve certain things and really anyone who genuinely sympathises with him for that is an utter cretin.

Anyway, 'prostituting' my views certainly hasn't worked if that's what I've supposedly been doing. As I'm sure you've noticed I've failed to be a mod a number of times. i just don't really care, hence why I'll be standing again and if by some miracle I get in I'll be all for a much tougher stance against this who pollute the forum with crap. 😛

I don't really care how I 'came across' cha, and I really don't give a fuck what you belive.

Again, your views confuse me. What WIBG set out to do, or indeed achieved, is of no concern to me. He may well know what he's doing, what ever that is, but he's not exactly subtle about it and as I've already said, if you're stupid enough to fall for it then don't fucking whine when it blows up in your face. I actually started out advising Nobber and Raf to just ignore him, but the mere mention of the word 'Manchester' turned them into raving nutcases, so I've no sympathy

It was when they started to use actions only a Mod could get away with did I feel someone had to say something, don't forget Nobber opened a closed thread to have the last dig at WIBG, although he apparently did that by accident, and also spammed WING's thread with the same phrase about trolls for a long time, that is not correct. Even when he was told to put me and WIBG on ignore he STILL got his personal digs in by not quoting him.

I'll tell you what, I'll be your campaign manager for the next election, I can't run due to an infraction, and I'll get you enough votes to get you in. I can't say fairer than that.

 

[Ronald]

The conduct of several people has been utterly terrible. The fact some of them do it for enjoyment says a lot about them!

Fortunately I think very few of the posters who don't take part in these threads are really aware, let alone care.

It's just disappointing that anyone would want to spend their time making other people miserable.

 

[Benito]

I'll tell you what, I'll be your campaign manager for the next election, I can't run due to an infraction, and I'll get you enough votes to get you in. I can't say fairer than that.

Aw, cheers Mossy. I'm afraid even if you were sincere in your offer I'm more unelectable than Ed Milliband.😱

 

[billymac]

If you honestly believe you haven't come across in a way that is much more than WIBG's little helper, you're quite deluded. If you didn't want to get rid of Nobber completely, which I can't honestly believe, you certainly wanted the same thing as WIBG.

As for my views, it's funny you should mention them. They have actually shifted somewhat. Previously I saw the same thing as you, Nobber and maybe some others targeting WIBG. However, it has become apparent to me that he knows exactly what he's doing given he actually set out to achieve certain things and really anyone who genuinely sympathises with him for that is an utter cretin.

Anyway, 'prostituting' my views certainly hasn't worked if that's what I've supposedly been doing. As I'm sure you've noticed I've failed to be a mod a number of times. i just don't really care, hence why I'll be standing again and if by some miracle I get in I'll be all for a much tougher stance against this who pollute the forum with crap. 😛

You and Ron have been here 2 fuckin minutes and think you know what has gone on between posters who have been here for 10 years, well you fuckin don't, you are just another attention seeking simpering cunt who is going to change everything once he becomes a mod, dream on bawbag.

 

[billymac]

The conduct of several people has been utterly terrible. The fact some of them do it for enjoyment says a lot about them!

Fortunately I think very few of the posters who don't take part in these threads are really aware, let alone care.

It's just disappointing that anyone would want to spend their time making other people miserable.

If this upsets you then why did you not step in and either close this thread or PM individuals as to their conduct?????

 

[Benito]

You and Ron have been here 2 fuckin minutes and think you know what has gone on between posters who have been here for 10 years, well you fuckin don't, you are just another attention seeking simpering cunt who is going to change everything once he becomes a mod, dream on bawbag.

Does this mean I won't have your personal commendation in the coming election? Aw shucks, just when I thought things couldn't get any worse.🙄

I guess you're taking the view with Mossy that because I'm not one of the forum 'old boys', my opinion isn't valid. I guess I'll just have to accept that.

I can't promise evertything, but I know I wouldn't be as tolerant of the abuse you dish out so enthusiastically. I'm hardly revolutionary, I just want a sensible normality to be restored on here.

 

[WIBG]

I like to think I'm a clever lad, but I'm really struggling with something if I'm honest and was hoping someone could maybe help me out.

I've now read several times, from several different posters, that I bring all the abuse upon myself, ultimately that I deserve it. Now granted some of the abuse is taken as it should be - two grown blokes having a bit of a ding dong and the odd expletive is used, and although I very rarely swear or use foul language I can live with that. However, it's when people overstep that mark that I have an issue with.

As I've said numerous times I've posted things I shouldn't and even though I've received infractions and publicly apologised for them there is no denying I was out of order and let myself down, but 2 or 3 indiscretions over a 10 year period is nothing compared to what I have to face and endure on a daily basis on here from some posters. Yet all I hear is that I bring it upon myself, so my question is simple, what exactly have I done, or do I do, that allows people to continue to hurl abuse at me, insult my wife, suggest I have mental health problems, wish that a blood test result come back positive, openly post personal details about me and harass and bully me on threads? If it really is because I believe that Grayson should be sacked and replaced with Billy Davies, that I refer to Manchester United as Manchester or that I'm still paying the penalty for the indiscretions I mentioned then surely I have more 'ammunition' than most to go on a abuse campaign against others?

 

[billymac]

Does this mean I won't have your personal commendation in the coming election? Aw shucks, just when I thought things couldn't get any worse.🙄

I guess you're taking the view with Mossy that because I'm not one of the forum 'old boys', my opinion isn't valid. I guess I'll just have to accept that.

I can't promise evertything, but I know I wouldn't be as tolerant of the abuse you dish out so enthusiastically. I'm hardly revolutionary, I just want a sensible normality to be restored on here.

what abuse, swearing is allowed and was voted on, sticks and stones etc etc etc and I think you will find that better than you have thrown their name into the mod/mad hat vowing to change things and be stricter!!!!

I would offer free beer and a butter pie to encourage patrons to vote for you, sure winner, being a task master is a rubbish idea.

 

[Benito]

what abuse, swearing is allowed and was voted on, sticks and stones etc etc etc and I think you will find that better than you have thrown their name into the mod/mad hat vowing to change things and be stricter!!!!

I would offer free beer and a butter pie to encourage patrons to vote for you, sure winner, being a task master is a rubbish idea.

If needlessly calling me a 'simpering cunt' without provocation isn't abusive, I'm afraid I just don't know what is.

As for making patrons vote for me, if they don't want a moderator who will enforce the rules but a crowd pleaser then fair enough. I'm more than happy to lose another election if that's the way it goes.

 

[deany]

what abuse, swearing is allowed and was voted on, sticks and stones etc etc etc and I think you will find that better than you have thrown their name into the mod/mad hat vowing to change things and be stricter!!!!

I would offer free beer and a butter pie to encourage patrons to vote for you, sure winner, being a task master is a rubbish idea.

Would you ever stand again Bill?

Believe it or not I would probably vote for you.
Especially if I got free pies and booze!

 

[Ronald]

If this upsets you then why did you not step in and either close this thread or PM individuals as to their conduct?????

Because the original argument had fizzled out when I read it. I think that this discussion in the aftermath is actually quite constructive.