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Confirmed Statement from 'Peter & Craig"

Confirmed Statement from 'Peter & Craig"

Regardless said:
Genuine query... I don't really see a big financial angle to this statement. If it's 'delaying', the decision then unless it's delayed by six months then what's the real financial advantage?… and even then, it’s only a fairly minor financial benefit? If it's "inevitable" then they'd have to pay him off and pay to recruit someone else later anyway... so delaying is only improving cash flow at the moment.
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They will be praying to heaven above that Ryan manages to turn it around over the next few games to save them from a pay off to both him and his staff

I believe they have underestimated the anger and frustration of the fan base and think if he did win a couple of games everything would be forgotten.

The fact Peter refers to social media is part of that narrative that they think its a small number of vocal fans who have had enough - they are wrong.

As someone else said - the easy decision is to keep him, no pay off, no recruitment costs, business as usual so to speak.

It is inevitable he will end up being sacked, deep down they probably know that but instead have taken the decision to hope for a miracle on Tuesday.

If I am wrong and it is just a delay tactic whilst they line their ducks up, then they would have been better off saying nothing.

I hope we get that miracle because the alternative is unthinkable of how toxic Deepdale may become.
 
JK said:
A purely financial decision with a total disregard for the views of the vast majority of North End fans & not just a few on social media as implied.

It is delaying the inevitable & creating conflict between themselves & the fans.

Lowe has lost the fan base, Peter and by default Craig may too.
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Agree, and by social media i presume he/they also include this forum.
It was yourself and a few others (@andy saville etc) who have helped raise the profile of the club, accepted that cheaper season tickets also played a big part, but your efforts probably added a few thou to the season tickets, not to mention the efforts in regard to improving the atmosphere of the match day experience, flags etc.
Lowe's comments where disgraceful and unacceptable and i cannot see a way back from them, you cannot play the crowd when it suits and disrespect them when it doesn't.
Ridsdale has previous in such disregard to the paying public.
The fans are not just 'paying customers' though, they have a passion that runs through the blood, it is their Club, the professional employed by the Club, The Manager, Player/chief executive might be upset by a loss but in no way shape or form feels it in in the same way that the supporter does.
Its gutting and makes or breaks a weekend.
Players, Managers, someone like Ridsdale have no real passion or long term investment in a Club, at best they might develop a soft spot for it.
A Club, our Club, PNE, the spirit of PNE is owned by the Fans and not by any transient, fleeting person attached to the Club.
Ultimately, It's the fans voice that is fundamentally important and the working employees secondary, to that.
Lowe and Ridsdale out, Craig its time to step up and make big decisions for yourself.
 
JK said:
They will be praying to heaven above that Ryan manages to turn it around over the next few games to save them from a pay off to both him and his staff

I believe they have underestimated the anger and frustration of the fan base and think if he did win a couple of games everything would be forgotten.

The fact Peter refers to social media is part of that narrative that they think its a small number of vocal fans who have had enough - they are wrong.

As someone else said - the easy decision is to keep him, no pay off, no recruitment costs, business as usual so to speak.

It is inevitable he will end up being sacked, deep down they probably know that but instead have taken the decision to hope for a miracle on Tuesday.

If I am wrong and it is just a delay tactic whilst they line their ducks up, then they would have been better off saying nothing.

I hope we get that miracle because the alternative is unthinkable of how toxic Deepdale may become.
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OK. But I just strongly disagree it’s a mainly financial decision and I find it difficult to think ‘saying nothing’ could possibly have been a better option.
I think it likely they are sounding out alternatives right now and if we string 3 wins together then they’d be putting them on the back burner. If we do lose badly in the coming games, then Deepdale will become pretty toxic… but then Ryan will have failed to shake off that malaise and so I would think everyone (including PR, CH and RL) would be expect a firing if that happens.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Off course they are, but that’s not what Ryan was saying was it.

Customers can voice their discontent all they want that’s there right in every walk of life.

But have to be prepared to back up what you say and not get offended.

Unless you want a paying customer sat in front of Ryan Lowe saying “forward passes” and 4-4-2 always and Ryan say there writing it down and implementing it going forward.

I bet 99% of the people who got offended by his comments wouldn’t be able to put on a professional training session without getting laughed at by the players.
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I don’t think fans are offended by his comments it’s the way in which he said them. The arrogance of the man to sit there after the shit football we play and say fans opinion’s mean nothing.
 
Preston Lad said:
Do It Episode 3 GIF by Star Wars
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Just to forewarn people - I've almost finished it.

It's the biggest 'meme' I've ever done and I've based it on everyone's (especially mine! 🤣 ) pent up frustration- once you see it you'll understand. It's The Simpsons-based but I think I've made good use of the scene.
It is a little savage - I've included two players which wasn't part of my initial plan but I think I had to as part of the narrative.
 
shabbagaz said:
Just to forewarn people - I've almost finished it.

It's the biggest 'meme' I've ever done and I've based it on everyone's (especially mine! 🤣 ) pent up frustration- once you see it you'll understand. It's The Simpsons-based but I think I've made good use of the scene.
It is a little savage - I've included two players which wasn't part of my initial plan but I think I had to as part of the narrative.
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This gonna be a Cold War Steve level of effort? 😆
 
RibbletonWhite2.0 said:
I don’t think fans are offended by his comments it’s the way in which he said them. The arrogance of the man to sit there after the shit football we play and say fans opinion’s mean nothing.
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Personally don’t think it was arrogance, more brought on by pressure, abuse and annoyance.

Seems to happen to every manager at PNE, Neil and Frankie in their time chucked it back at the fans in different ways.

Maybe people need to look a bit closer to home sometimes.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Personally don’t think it was arrogance, more brought on by pressure, abuse and annoyance.

Seems to happen to every manager at PNE, Neil and Frankie in their time chucked it back at the fans in different ways.

Maybe people need to look a bit closer to home sometimes.
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Its arrogance because unless i've missed it he hasn't rowed back on it, and 'they' have turned it round to the fans being abusive.
IF it was due to 'pressure' he should apologise and i mean massively, saying (along the lines of) 'i really got it wrong, the fans are fundamentally important to the Club, i apologise wholeheartedly'.
Maybe that's not easy for an ego, but he might just reflect that it 'might' take some of the heat off him, from some anyway!
 
I think the post was needed. Otherwise we (the fans) will just wind ourselves up until the next game (😂) if they felt he was on borrowed time they would have let him go in the past couple of days. It would give the new guy time to assess and make changes in the transfer window. Sacking Lowe at end of Jan probably means we will have let a couple of players go (Whiteman for money) and then they can rid us of Lowe and not spend money till next summer, when we know we here we land. Which could very easily be L1, on current form.

Lowe has no excuses. It’s largely his team and he has some class players (Mads is a footballer, Osmajic needs the ball and is 15 goal a season forward, Millar and Holmes have what we need to frighten teams). Problem is Lowe doesn’t know his best side

I went on the Swansea game and watched Browney walk off. He brushed past Lowe. There is a problem in the camp

Would love a seasoned manager. Mowbray. We won’t pay what he wants
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Personally don’t think it was arrogance, more brought on by pressure, abuse and annoyance.

Seems to happen to every manager at PNE, Neil and Frankie in their time chucked it back at the fans in different ways.

Maybe people need to look a bit closer to home sometimes.
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Or just the pressure of losing football matches and/or being out of their depth.

Well done on buying into this abuse narrative though. 🤦‍♂️
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned before as I haven't read all the comments on this thread...

But didn't people who are usually decent ITKers hear whispers we'd spoken to Nathan Jones..?


Could this statement be the hierarchy treading water until Jones' pay-off from Southampton stops? He was sacked late Jan/early Feb wasn't he? If he was getting a year's pay or something like we did with sacking Alex Neil (and Frankie) maybe we've got something in the pipeline but he wanted to keep his Premier League wage coming in for another two months?
 
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