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Confirmed Statement from 'Peter & Craig"

Confirmed Statement from 'Peter & Craig"

Ron Burgundy said:
Yes but I also though he took umbridge to the fan ignoring where we are the league and what we’ve done over the course of the season.

I know our identify and it’s 3 at the bloody back and L1 level footballers shoe horned in certain positions.

He has reaped was he has sowed with the brand comments etc, I just think it’s time to part with that gripe against him now doesn’t do anyone any favours going forward.
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But for him to use the league position as a positive would be burying his head in the sand regarding a run of (at the time) 3 wins in 15 games. To reference a different qualified role, that'd be like a pilot ignoring a stall warning because the plane is still airborne for now. It's gross negligence.

The current situation is all of Lowe's making. His blatant refusal to accept any blame, his constant deflection, his sheer arrogance and disdain for fans doing anything bar worshipping him.

I agree with the abuse sentiment from the club, but maybe they/Lowe can advise us on how we can voice or show our displeasure in a more constructive way? How do the fans get behind the team whilst also informing Lowe we believe he is out of his depth and not up to the job?
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Could you tell said professions how to fix all those things without qualifications?

If you started telling a mechanic how to do his job he would tell you to fix it yourself.

That’s the point Lowe was making, without the relevant qualifications, experience and badges most of what fans would say to Lowe would probably be noise.

I know many’s first words would be “we need more goals”, oh thanks mate like we didn’t know that already. How would you do it then? I’d pass it forward more and play more strikers.

If only it was that easy.
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That's the point....... it isn't easy and he is proving that he most definitely does not find it easy. If a car mechanic regularly doesn't fix the cars he has been paid to fix because he doesn't find it easy...... he will be sacked and more than likely find a job that does not.involve fixing cars....... yes?
 
Michael said:
But for him to use the league position as a positive would be burying his head in the sand regarding a run of (at the time) 3 wins in 15 games. To reference a different qualified role, that'd be like a pilot ignoring a stall warning because the plane is still airborne for now. It's gross negligence.

The current situation is all of Lowe's making. His blatant refusal to accept any blame, his constant deflection, his sheer arrogance and disdain for fans doing anything bar worshipping him.

I agree with the abuse sentiment from the club, but maybe they/Lowe can advise us on how we can voice or show our displeasure in a more constructive way? How do the fans get behind the team whilst also informing Lowe we believe he is out of his depth and not up to the job?
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Forgot to mention Lowe going for the sympathy vote with regard Mental Health ?
 
Meldrew's Ghost said:
I don't think that the decision of whether or not to sack the manager is in the hands of Peter and Craig.

It would have significant, unbudgeted costs, and as such will be in the hands of someone who has no love for the club. I think she will have told P & C "Get your man to make it work."
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This could very well be the case ST
 
PrestonUltras81 said:
That's the point....... it isn't easy and he is proving that he most definitely does not find it easy. If a car mechanic regularly doesn't fix the cars he has been paid to fix because he doesn't find it easy...... he will be sacked and more than likely find a job that does not.involve fixing cars....... yes?
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I get your point.

But fixing a car should be a 100% of the time job which winning a football game is not.
 
Motion Man said:
I was listening to an ex player on Radio 5 a few weeks ago and he thought it was much better to play for a manager who had a more fixed system of playing rather than one that chopped and changed. You naturally get more used to patterns of play and better understandings build up. All common sense but I do get the feeling that Ryan has panicked too early in fear of his job (probably would be back to League One ?) and should have been bolder sticking more to the system we started the season with.
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Good point. Teams have to adjust shape during games but the basic foundation of the team doesn't change too much. Making six changes for Friday night's game was another sign of desperation and certainly not a positive step in the right direction.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Could you tell said professions how to fix all those things without qualifications?

If you started telling a mechanic how to do his job he would tell you to fix it yourself.

That’s the point Lowe was making, without the relevant qualifications, experience and badges most of what fans would say to Lowe would probably be noise.

I know many’s first words would be “we need more goals”, oh thanks mate like we didn’t know that already. How would you do it then? I’d pass it forward more and play more strikers.

If only it was that easy.
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Not for the first time, you're missing the point - deliberately I suspect.

It's not the fact that fans are commenting on and questioning his management and tactics - there's nothing wrong with that, as long as it's done respectfully. The point put to him by Bayes was that fans were questioning the identity of his team - it was respectfully put. His response was totally dismissive and disrespectful to fans (and to Bayes).

He could have said 'Fair enough, they're entitled to their opinions, they pay their money, a lot of them follow us all over the country, but I'm doing what I think is best, based on my experience in the game, and I'd just ask them to trust my judgement and bear with me as we're trying to get things right'. Instead, he had a childish hissy fit and managed to turn against him many who had previously supported him.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
I get your point.

But fixing a car should be a 100% of the time job which winning a football game is not.
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Imagine you take your car to the garage because the Engine Warning Light comes on, the mechanic tells you not to worry he's reset the error, he's got all the qualifications and his idol works on Porsches up in Liverpool and told him once that he was a fan of his mechanical skills. He then charges you £32 and fist pumps as you leave.

You drive away and the following Saturday this happens again and keeps happening, you voice your disgust and suggest to the owner of the garage that his mechanic starts fixing the car rather than resetting the error messages. The owner suggests whilst this is not ideal they will carry on with the mechanic and hope he sorts it out.

You'd probably not be rushing back
 
Meldrew's Ghost said:
I don't think that the decision of whether or not to sack the manager is in the hands of Peter and Craig.

It would have significant, unbudgeted costs, and as such will be in the hands of someone who has no love for the club. I think she will have told P & C "Get your man to make it work."
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Surely when running a football club you should have a contingency for “unexpected” bills, such as paying off managers/players/staff…

It’s like buying an Aston Martin (in Ryan’s case a 1970s Vantage with a rusty chassis and a mice infested interior - it looks and sounds nice from the outside, but that’s about it) and then not having the coin to put fuel in it.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Yes but I also though he took umbridge to the fan ignoring where we are the league and what we’ve done over the course of the season.

I know our identify and it’s 3 at the bloody back and L1 level footballers shoe horned in certain positions.

He has reaped was he has sowed with the brand comments etc, I just think it’s time to part with that gripe against him now doesn’t do anyone any favours going forward.
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If he did then he's no right to. He's the one failing miserably.
 
Schemer said:
Not for the first time, you're missing the point - deliberately I suspect.

It's not the fact that fans are commenting on and questioning his management and tactics - there's nothing wrong with that, as long as it's done respectfully. The point put to him by Bayes was that fans were questioning the identity of his team - it was respectfully put. His response was totally dismissive and disrespectful to fans (and to Bayes).

He could have said 'Fair enough, they're entitled to their opinions, they pay their money, a lot of them follow us all over the country, but I'm doing what I think is best, based on my experience in the game, and I'd just ask them to trust my judgement and bear with me as we're trying to get things right'. Instead, he had a childish hissy fit and managed to turn against him many who had previously supported him.
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Yep, me included I'm afraid. It's not irreparable for me like it is for many, but I'm now going to take some persuading that he's the right man for us.
 
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