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h@rry

h@rry

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I have to admit that I groaned when Jayden came on for Gally but he just got better and better in the second half. The fact is that we wouldn’t have won that game without his contribution. The architect of the whole thing was Alex though. A manager who isn’t afraid to admit his mistakes but still find away to win.
 
h@rry said:
I have to admit that I groaned when Jayden came on for Gally but he just got better and better in the second half. The fact is that we wouldn’t have won that game without his contribution. The architect of the whole thing was Alex though. A manager who isn’t afraid to admit his mistakes but still find away to win.
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a way, not away
 
h@rry said:
I have to admit that I groaned when Jayden came on for Gally but he just got better and better in the second half. The fact is that we wouldn’t have won that game without his contribution. The architect of the whole thing was Alex though. A manager who isn’t afraid to admit his mistakes but still find away to win.
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You groaned?!?! I have to try and find a mod who will delete my posts on the match day thread!!
 
I hold my hand up. I thought Neil had blundered by bringing him on and in the first half and for about 15 mins of the second half I thought he looked like a pub team centre forward. He was nowhere near getting his head to most balls, he was painfully slow and his touch was awful but suddenly something changed. I've no idea what, but he started winning headers, laying the ball off and giving their defenders no end of problems. It was like a switch had been clicked. I can only think that the other players realised they needed to give him better service, rather than simply balls aimed in his general direction. Whatever it was, it worked to a tee and won us the match.
 
Bhagwan H said:
Rovers couldn't deal with him could they?

It's a good option to fall back on.

Well played.
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I’m beginning to understand why Alex doesn’t play him very often. For some reason today we couldn’t play our normal passing game which, let’s be honest, has been the cornerstone of our success so far this season. Jayden and, to an extent, Nuge, will probably be used only when we’re getting no joy playing through midfield and need to go long to break through. This is the beauty of the current squad. We can change in the course of a game, as we did today. This only works when you have a master tactician in charge, though, and Alex is certainly that. Maybe we should trust him a bit more
 
h@rry said:
I’m beginning to understand why Alex doesn’t play him very often. For some reason today we couldn’t play our normal passing game which, let’s be honest, has been the cornerstone of our success so far this season. Jayden and, to an extent, Nuge, will probably be used only when we’re getting no joy playing through midfield and need to go long to break through. This is the beauty of the current squad. We can change in the course of a game, as we did today. This only works when you have a master tactician in charge, though, and Alex is certainly that. Maybe we should trust him a bit more
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I might be a bit off the mark putting Jayden and Nuge together. N
JohnPNE said:
Let’s remember...
Stockley is a shit excuse for a footballer
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i disagree. Horses for courses. Different tactics for different opponents
 
Listened to the gaffer on BBC Lancs in the car on the way home from the game and never understood his thinking until now... he said he doesn't look at tactics, he plays of strategies. Second half strategy was purely to hit Stockley and have runners. We want to see nice football but some games need grinding out, and fair play to Jayden, he did everything he could and won us that game
 
I thought the game changed as soon as Stockley came on, before that their CBs had nothing to do , they were almost free players. He battled away and suddenly they were occupied, he stopped them from playing and gave them plenty to do , even if he didn’t win headers he put off their defensive clearances giving us more chance to regain possession. He won more and more headers as the game went on and played some decent stuff on the floor.

After not being chosen for some time it was a great match changing performance, full of heart and effort and passion.

Maybe he should have been given a chance in some other games this season when we weren’t winning.
 
h@rry said:
I might be a bit off the mark putting Jayden and Nuge together. N

i disagree. Horses for courses. Different tactics for different opponents
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I was being sarcastic. Think it was ‘benpearsonisgod’ who said something similar. Stockley may not start every game but as you said he can be decent at this level when needed
 
Pne_Gaz said:
I slated him throughout the first half and HT but he more than shut me up. Absolutely instrumental in getting us that win today and ended up by far being my MoM. Hope to see him continue in good form!
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Changed the game for us, like the rest of our team was poor when he came on in the first half.
Second half like a different player and a different team,he won the headers,held the ball up and laid it off, massive influencence in us getting back in the game and going on to win it.
Great battling second half performance well done North End and AN a fantastic result and had a great night celebrating the win.????????
 
Yesterday has the potential to be for Stockley what Wigan looked like it was going to be for Louis. Hopefully it wont end the same way
 
Stockley has simply never been the lump of a player that some have portrayed him as being and some of us have actually defended him and said that he could make a contribution. He can actually lay the ball off very cleverly - there was an incident of that sort shortly after he came on in the first half yesterday when he chested the ball down and then played a 30-yard pass that almost sent Barkhuizen through. Hopefully we will now see Stockley and Nugent share the centre forward role with if need be Bodin who can play that role to an extent and maybe even Potts as back-ups. Sticking Barkhuizen upfront is an utter waste - he needs to be played in a way that gives him the freedom to run at the opposition or just to pop up unexpectedly in scoring positions. Our target now has to be at the very least to remain in the play-off sports and if we are still in the automatic spots after other games have been played well we know what the target has to be then.
 
It was said by quite a few on here who's opinion I respect that while he isnt mobile enough to play regularly he still gives us an option that would be useful in certain games and we just had to trust that AN would use him at the right time...
 
ernest said:
Stockley has simply never been the lump of a player that some have portrayed him as being and some of us have actually defended him and said that he could make a contribution. He can actually lay the ball off very cleverly - there was an incident of that sort shortly after he came on in the first half yesterday when he chested the ball down and then played a 30-yard pass that almost sent Barkhuizen through. Hopefully we will now see Stockley and Nugent share the centre forward role with if need be Bodin who can play that role to an extent and maybe even Potts as back-ups. Sticking Barkhuizen upfront is an utter waste - he needs to be played in a way that gives him the freedom to run at the opposition or just to pop up unexpectedly in scoring positions. Our target now has to be at the very least to remain in the play-off sports and if we are still in the automatic spots after other games have been played well we know what the target has to be then.
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Agree about Stockley and certainly think it’s true that Barkhuizen is very dangerous when running into space from wider positions. I don’t share your certainty that he’s totally wasted up front, though. As with Stockley and Maguire, I think the performance of our chosen strikers is often much less to do with with their position and more to do with ensuring the team is set up in a way that uses their strengths properly when they’re selected as a striker. If Stockley is up front then we need to get players around him quickly to feed off his knockdowns. If Barkhuizen’s playing there then we need to be passing and moving quickly, getting the ball in behind the opposition’s defence for him to get on the end of (or down the channels, a little like we used to see with Fuller and Cresswell). Ultimately, though, I’ve never shared the negative view about Stockley either. He looked good when he arrived last season and has shown several times that he has attributes that our other options don’t. He’s not going to suddenly be blessed with pace or tricks so it’s a case of using his strengths properly when they’re needed.
 
ernest said:
Stockley has simply never been the lump of a player that some have portrayed him as being and some of us have actually defended him and said that he could make a contribution. He can actually lay the ball off very cleverly - there was an incident of that sort shortly after he came on in the first half yesterday when he chested the ball down and then played a 30-yard pass that almost sent Barkhuizen through. Hopefully we will now see Stockley and Nugent share the centre forward role with if need be Bodin who can play that role to an extent and maybe even Potts as back-ups. Sticking Barkhuizen upfront is an utter waste - he needs to be played in a way that gives him the freedom to run at the opposition or just to pop up unexpectedly in scoring positions. Our target now has to be at the very least to remain in the play-off sports and if we are still in the automatic spots after other games have been played well we know what the target has to be then.
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Don’t agree entirely with this. Yes, he is most effective using his pace down the wings, but our ability to rotate the front 3 gives us plenty of options and makes sure the opposition can’t rest on their laurels.
 
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