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Subs - That's probably the difference

Subs - That's probably the difference

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Such a fantastic first team at present, would expect them to make top 6 but the replacements are not quite in the same class.

Other squads stretch that little bit further.

They didn't deserve their winner today but our loss came about from 2 mistakes. The first from Woods, 2nd from Bodin.

Poor mistakes.

Such a shame.
 
Thought Harrop offered more than Johnson when he came on, both goals were the fullbacks at fault. Woods when he dived in and Fisher looking at the ground rather than what was happening
 
Thought Harrop offered more than Johnson when he came on, both goals were the fullbacks at fault. Woods when he dived in and Fisher looking at the ground rather than what was happening

I meant Bodin. He made bad mistake for 2nd. In posession. Men ahead of him in box. Gave away naively and cheaply and they caught us in break.
 
I meant Bodin. He made bad mistake for 2nd. In posession. Men ahead of him in box. Gave away naively and cheaply and they caught us in break.

Easy to say in retrospect but with us obviously tiring Gallagher's ability to slow things down might have been a better option. Otherwise Horgan's relentless running might have been useful. Got to say Bodin seems to be struggling a bit - hopefully with a proper pre-season with us he might become a different player but at the moment you have to say he isn't meriting a starting place or arguably even a place in the matchday squad.
 
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I meant Bodin. He made bad mistake for 2nd. In posession. Men ahead of him in box. Gave away naively and cheaply and they caught us in break.

Sorry that's just total bollox. How far do you go back to find someone to blame it on? Fact is we didn't defend the throw-in, it was pretty simple but the lads were knackered. It's just shit that's all. No major blame to be dished out in my opinion.
 
Sorry that's just total bollox. How far do you go back to find someone to blame it on? Fact is we didn't defend the throw-in, it was pretty simple but the lads were knackered. It's just shit that's all. No major blame to be dished out in my opinion.
The lads were knackered. They ran themselves into the ground and played very well against a good footballing side. It was still a bad mistake by Bodin. Gave it away when many bodies ahead of him and we were caught out (with those tired legs you mention). It was a bit naive.

Similarly, Woods went flying in on deck and committed himself for first - something i would not have expected to see from Cunningham.

That's the point I'm making.

Subs are not quite as good as you'd like in terms of ability, experience, know how etc. Too big a gulf between first 11 and bench.
 
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The lads were knackered. They ran themselves into the ground and played very well againsy a hood footballingg side. It was still a bad mistale by Bodin. Gave it awqy when many bodies ahead of him and we were caught out (with those tired legs you mention). It was a bit naive.

Similarly, Eoods went flying in on deck and committed himself for first - something i would not have expected to see from Cunningham.

That's the point I'm making.

Subs are not quite as good as you'd like in terms of ability, experience, know how etc. Too big a gulf between first 11 and bench.

Understand but as someone else has pointed out their break away was yards offside too. So it's all 6 of 1 in my opinion, then you don't defend the throw etc etc. Just a shame
 
The lads were knackered. They ran themselves into the ground and played very well againsy a hood footballingg side. It was still a bad mistale by Bodin. Gave it awqy when many bodies ahead of him and we were caught out (with those tired legs you mention). It was a bit naive.

Similarly, Eoods went flying in on deck and committed himself for first - something i would not have expected to see from Cunningham.

That's the point I'm making.

Subs are not quite as good as you'd like in terms of ability, experience, know how etc. Too big a gulf between first 11 and bench.

Exactly how I saw it. Their subs particularly no. 22 far better than ours. And our lads were out of steam Gallagher might have been a better option than Bodin to slow the game down.
 
Sorry that's just total bollox. How far do you go back to find someone to blame it on? Fact is we didn't defend the throw-in, it was pretty simple but the lads were knackered. It's just shit that's all. No major blame to be dished out in my opinion.
For once California... here here🙂🙂
Sometimes shit happens. If we can take the form from the last 3 games into the last 9 games we will be there or thereabouts without doubt COYWS
 
For once California... here here🙂🙂
Sometimes shit happens. If we can take the form from the last 3 games into the last 9 games we will be there or thereabouts without doubt COYWS

Fucking hell just spat me helles (proper beer btw) all-over my lederhosen
 
Bodin certainly wouldn’t have been my choice. Would’ve rather injected some pace into the game with Horgan, who can do the defensive work as well.

Having said that, I don’t think the subs cost us the game.
 
Easy to say in retrospect but with us obviously tiring Gallagher's ability to slow things down might have been a better option.

He would have been my choice for exactly that reason. He has the ability and calmness to slow things down as well as being able to play accurate long passes into dangerous areas.
 
The lads were knackered. They ran themselves into the ground and played very well against a good footballing side. It was still a bad mistake by Bodin. Gave it away when many bodies ahead of him and we were caught out (with those tired legs you mention). It was a bit naive.

Similarly, Woods went flying in on deck and committed himself for first - something i would not have expected to see from Cunningham.

That's the point I'm making.

Subs are not quite as good as you'd like in terms of ability, experience, know how etc. Too big a gulf between first 11 and bench.

I thought we were tiring before their first goal and no surprise they scored. They let us back in and we got a 2nd wind. We tired badly at their place. They're a good side and you chase more against the top sides. Bit unfortunate to lose in the end. In reality only one point lost.
 
Tonight I am proud to be a prestonian. Not one of those players let us down. They all went out and battled. We did not deserve to lose and I am honestly proper gutted. But it’s also a good feeling, because I’m gutted not for me but for the players. And that’s when you know you have a team, a real squad. They were Preston today and more than anything they fought to win that game and for the first time in a long time I feel we have a team worth shouting home about. F*ck subs, and anyone focusing on the minor little points of the game. What do they matter really? Young squad, playing their hearts out for a manager who is dedicated to getting us up. As much as that’s a loss I think in the long game it’s a massive win
 
Easy to say in retrospect but with us obviously tiring Gallagher's ability to slow things down might have been a better option. Otherwise Horgan's relentless running might have been useful. Got to say Bodin seems to be struggling a bit - hopefully with a proper pre-season with us he might become a different player but at the moment you have to say he isn't meriting a starting place or arguably even a place in the matchday squad.

Totally agree ernest. It all got a bit frantic in midfield, just as it did on Tuesday when Gallagher went off. It was like pinball at times and needed someone to calm things down and help us keep hold of the ball.

As for Bodin, I hope he comes good. He has some quality but whether he's Championship standard only time will tell . Neil clearly thinks he's best played on his 'wrong' side and for attacking purposes that may be true but it puts him at a disadvantage defensively against a player going on his outside.
 
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Tonight I am proud to be a prestonian. Not one of those players let us down. They all went out and battled. We did not deserve to lose and I am honestly proper gutted. But it’s also a good feeling, because I’m gutted not for me but for the players. And that’s when you know you have a team, a real squad. They were Preston today and more than anything they fought to win that game and for the first time in a long time I feel we have a team worth shouting home about. F*ck subs, and anyone focusing on the minor little points of the game. What do they matter really? Young squad, playing their hearts out for a manager who is dedicated to getting us up. As much as that’s a loss I think in the long game it’s a massive win

Good post.

And as portishead Pete says in reality only one point lost. And lost to a club we prob won't be catching anyway. It's one of those last two spots we're after.
 
Totally agree ernest. It all got a bit frantic in midfield, just as it did on Tuesday when Gallagher went off. It was like pinball at times and needed someone to calm things down and help us keep hold of the ball.

As for Bodin, I hope he comes good. He has some quality but whether he's Championship standard only time will tell . Neil clearly thinks he's best played on his 'wrong' side and for attacking purposes that may be true but it puts him at a disadvantage defensively against a player going on his outside.

It occurred to me later on last night that I was writing pretty much the same thing after the match at their place earlier in the season. Then as we tired AN brought Robinson on and tried to play him as a wide, deep, right-sided 'wing-back' - a role in which he was unsurprisingly utterly inadequate and we all know what happened subsequently. I said then that the ideal sub in those circumstances would have been Horgan - though I don't think he was on the bench on that occasion. Horgan gets some flak on here but he is a player you cannot fault for effort and energy and if he had been brought on yesterday he might just have given us that bit of running and hassling we needed in those last few minutes. Personally I am never dismayed to see him in the matchday squad. Anyhow there we are - only a point lost and we made the current form team in this division have to play right to the last minute to get a result. We absolutely have to win next week-end to keep in the play-off hunt.
 
Fully expect Woods to be playing at a lower level next season, probably at Bradford. He isn't up to it at this level anymore.

Probably need better back-up/squad options next season. Lots of the supposed back-up defenders struggle to stay fit, and we've hardly had a striker on the bench all season.

Neil's had his hands tied behind his back a bit during games with the lack of good options on the bench this season, although it's getting a bit better now with players getting back to fitness.

He needs backing a bit in the transfer window over the summer to give the team a bit more of his 'stamp'.
 
Tonight I am proud to be a prestonian. Not one of those players let us down. They all went out and battled. We did not deserve to lose and I am honestly proper gutted. But it’s also a good feeling, because I’m gutted not for me but for the players. And that’s when you know you have a team, a real squad. They were Preston today and more than anything they fought to win that game and for the first time in a long time I feel we have a team worth shouting home about. F*ck subs, and anyone focusing on the minor little points of the game. What do they matter really? Young squad, playing their hearts out for a manager who is dedicated to getting us up. As much as that’s a loss I think in the long game it’s a massive win

Great post mate. Every fan has their favourite player but I can genuinely say if someone asked me who mine is I wouldn’t be able to give a straight forward answer as I would be stuck between 3 or 4. The best thing is the love for the full squad.
 
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