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Subs Tonight

Subs Tonight

Randall Flagg

Randall Flagg

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Anyone else think the subs were wrong tonight? Not so much the personnel but the timing of it. Browne and DJ were poor in the first half but when we made the changes we were massively on top. Browne was finally starting to get a grip of the midfield and DJ was starting to link with Brady more. I think changing both 8s broke the pattern of play up and we lost all momentum. Thought it was really odd timing.
 
Glad someone else said it. Lost all control when he took off DJ and Browne.

Also wouldn’t of brought Ched on with 6 mins to go
 
I thought AB apart from the odd pass played ok today. As for DJ, same case 90% of his games, chasing shadows. But I agree taking them both off at same time seemed wrong and we seemed to loose energy.
 
Said similar in the matchday thread.

On the whole Browne and DJ had very poor games but part-way through the second half they started to finally get a grip of the game and Lowe, IMO, made a mistake of taking them off whilst we were in the ascendency. It disrupted the flow of the game and we just seemed to peter out.
 
DJ should have been subbed before Riis came on - keeping our 343 shape essentially, then Riis later if still no goal as DJ was poor wereas Ledson hadn’t done much wrong.

Taking both DJ and Browne off killed the game as others said and both will walk back into the side following the performances of Woodburn and McCann.

May as well have brought a bouncy ball on instead of Evans.
 
I agree. I think Lowe got too excitable with the three late subs. When we probably just needed one midfield change, if anything. I think the option we really missed tonight was Fernandez.

Evans coming on had that same desperate feeling that Sinclair offered last season from the bench - basically signalling the game was now over. I'd rather Mikey O'Neil be given game time.

It's a shame we've only got six points. We really should have ten at least. But we have those four clean sheets to be proud of. Saturday will be a proper test of where this squad is at.
 
Yep, it totally disrupted the momentum of the game and pretty much killed it off. I thought DJ was off it tonight but I thought Browne had a good game personally.
 
Fully agree with the op and thought the exact same myself. Absolutely woeful and naive timings for the subs by Ryan Lowe tonight. They should have either have been hooked just after half time or stayed on until the end given how much better they started to play second half. I strongly believe that if Browne and DJ were both still on the pitch, we would have got something out of that tonight.

How the hell can you only give mcann and Woodburn 10-15 mins. Silly.

He should have given DJ and Browne until the end to create a goal and then rested them on Saturday by starting mcann and Woodburn.
 
Floosh said:
Yep, it totally disrupted the momentum of the game and pretty much killed it off. I thought DJ was off it tonight but I thought Browne had a good game personally.
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Browne came to life, as he often does, fairly late in the game and actually started playing a captain's role after being largely anonymous for most of the time preceding.

He and Johnson have been fixtures in our midfield for a very long time - maybe too long - and it could be their time (certainly as fixtures) is nearing its end.
 
DJ and Browne poor first half , mccann and woodburn/riis should have been done earlier for the two.
Riis really struggles vs teams who sit deep and defend against us his touch & link up is absoloutly poor without his goals last season he would stand out as out worst footballer 100%.
I’d be taking 7m for him aslong as 5+ is upfront in the deal.. allows us to bring in 2 strikers and a rwb. Would be very good business from a business minded club.. just need to invest majority of it … we looked good tonight similar to hull at home everything but score but these are the points we will drop that will cost us . RLBA
 
Dreyfuss said:
I agree. I think Lowe got too excitable with the three late subs. When we probably just needed one midfield change, if anything. I think the option we really missed tonight was Fernandez.

Evans coming on had that same desperate feeling that Sinclair offered last season from the bench - basically signalling the game was now over. I'd rather Mikey O'Neil be given game time.

It's a shame we've only got six points. We really should have ten at least. But we have those four clean sheets to be proud of. Saturday will be a proper test of where this squad is at.
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The two substitutions taking off DJ and Browne took all the momentum out of our play, it is very difficult for the two replacement substitutes to pick that momentum back up as soon as they get on the pitch, so yes agree with you poor timing by RL.
Bringing Ched on with 6 minutes left was a last desperate throw of the dice and he hardly had a torch and had no impact, yes agreed would have loved to have seen Mikey O'Neil available and sent on, no need for technical diagrams just a simple, go on and grab us the winner.
Still a good overall performance, no league goals conceded and undefeated, roll on to Saturday and another challenge. 👍😀
 
Randall Flagg said:
Anyone else think the subs were wrong tonight? Not so much the personnel but the timing of it. Browne and DJ were poor in the first half but when we made the changes we were massively on top. Browne was finally starting to get a grip of the midfield and DJ was starting to link with Brady more. I think changing both 8s broke the pattern of play up and we lost all momentum. Thought it was really odd timing.
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Totally agree with this and it was so frustrating…..

With 15/20 minutes left we had Rotherham on the ropes and then all of a sudden our momentum was killed by the Subs….

In fairness it was probably a pre determined decision by RL to make the changes after 75 mins but it completely stopped our flow…

Rotherham took advantage of the break in play by feigning the odd injury or two as well….
 
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