It's not just his goals either. He keeps both centre halves occupied and allows his partner and the wingers more freedom in and around my box which is why Robinson has 8(?) goals, McGeady 6 and Barkhuizen 5. I don't think Makienok would have quite to same effect.
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It's not just his goals either. He keeps both centre halves occupied and allows his partner and the wingers more freedom in and around my box which is why Robinson has 8(?) goals, McGeady 6 and Barkhuizen 5. I don't think Makienok would have quite to same effect.
I didn't mention his name because every poster on here cried like babies when I mentioned he was a donkey a few months ago.
3 posts on I still have not said his name, yet 6 pages of cry babies, grammar police and bum lickers are still trying to justify crap performances.
Nothing has changed, not even the 45 minutes he bothered to show up at Aston Villa.
No I say it in that it is only his first full season at this level and he has scored 10 league goals which isn't a good return when you look at the service but it also isn't a bad return.
Next season Hugill will be wiser, fitter and more experienced with hopefully 2-3 better players around him therefore you would hope that he would benefit from this and score more than this season.
The likes of Gray, Murphy, Lambert and Graham were not what you would call prolific in their first seasons in the Championship.
Next season could be make or break for Hugill when it comes to being a first team regular.
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You're not serious?
Hugill being a first team regular this season is one of the reasons we're currently in 8th place. But it's also one of the reasons we're no higher than 8th place.
If we want perpetual finishes outside the top 6, then we can persevere with Hugill as first choice up front, sure.
But I was under the impression from other threads that fans are expecting rather more than that next season. That will require Hugill to be on the bench a lot more next season - yes, even though he tries really really hard and used to work in a pub.
Yes he is one of the reason's why we are no higher than 8th but there are 10 other players who walk onto the pitch who are responsible for that as well, you can't levy all of the praise or blame Hugills way just because he has missed chances.
When it comes to strikers you have to be more worried if they are not getting chances or chances are not falling their way, Hugill is still young and raw as many can tell and it takes time especially game time to develop them into quality players.
Numerous times this season he has come up against top quality defenders such as Fox, Mulgrew, Lascelles, Duffy and Shackell, he's going to get marked out of the game or snuffed out because of their inherent quality of playing at higher levels we are just going to have to accept that, but the experience he gains against them which he will carry into next season and the rest of his career will allow him to hopefully turn into a quality player.
Hugill has come up against other quality players and done really well like he did against Reading, Villa, Cardiff and Huddersfield it's just about getting that consistency out of his game which will come with minutes and coaching. Just look at where he was 2-3-4 seasons ago and look where he is now that sort of progression is impressive and if it carries on means he will mature into a good player, he just needs to be given time and minutes to do that.
Hugill gets chances, creates space, occupies defenders and works very hard for the team which I think will be appreciated a lot more by his team mates than it is from the terraces.
A degree of patience is needed with Jordan.
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Sure - but as I say, other fans are expecting top 6.
That's a bit condescending isn't it?
I thought I made a very valid point that didn't have any reference to trying hard or working in a bar.
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I thnk Hugill was probably our best player in a rather poor first half, but 2nd half he was absolutely useless.
He looked knackered from about 55 minutes onwards and can't remember anything he did at all, not even doing the usual closing down. I guess with no Makienok options were limited. He'll be back as a bench option next season I feel.
He looked knackered from about 55 minutes onwards and can't remember anything he did at all, not even doing the usual closing down. I guess with no Makienok options were limited. He'll be back as a bench option next season I feel.
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I read between the lines of "young, raw, look at where he was 2-3-4 seasons ago ", etc.
In summary, you think Hugill has a lot more improvement to make, I think he's as good as he's going to get.
I prefer the wait and see approach, like I said he could improve further next season with more goals and a few more assists.
I think it is wrong to say he has reached his potential when he hasn't stopped improving season upon season.
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One area where Hugill has not improved one iota is stamina. At the start of this season, he was blowing out of his arse after 60 minutes. Now, with 30 starts under his belt, he's blowing out of his arse after 60 minutes.
Another area that has been discussed ad nauseam is his finishing, composure and technique, none of which have improved, none of which are ever likely to improve IMO.
You go ahead and wait for him, I don't mind at all - but I think you'll be waiting outside the top 6.
You can clearly tell he has improved in stamina compared to where he was 1-2 seasons ago, I think his fitness/game management just need improving/tweaking/coaching in that area.
Finishing, composure and technique can all be worked on and coached into players and experience does help in this area.
Next season Hugill could be banging them in from the start or he could gradually improve on what he has been doing this season, if he doesn't and continues to miss chance after chance then I expect his place would be under threat and he would have to spend some time on the bench.
With Barkhuizen getting a full pre-season under his belt maybe he might be the striker to put it in the onion bag regularly like we are all yearning for.
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I agree with this.
I agree, a good pre-season with Barkhuizen is definitely going to be a good thing and he clearly knows where the net is. Hopefully Hugill continues to improve and does the business from the start next year.
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Forum members who continue to moan about Hugill should find a trendy Premier League team to support from their armchair and join the herds of sheep who repeat the views of the pundits on MOTD and Sky whilst pretending to know something about the game.
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No 20 page thread on his 1 on 1 miss though I see...
It's scheduled in for when he misses the next one.
Sure a simple copy and paste job will do.
Big fan of Barkhuizen already, but if Hugill had missed Tommy's chance at the start of the second half at Blackburn and the chance on Saturday he would've been slated again.
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Garner received nowhere near the quality of service that Hugill has this season.
Hugill has had McGeady, Horgan and laterly Barkhuizen creating chances in the final third as well as the relentless drive of Pearson from deeper midfield. I know it's hypothetical, but I'd wager Garner would have at least matched Hugill's tally of 10 league goals this season had he still been here. Given the service he has received and the game time he has had this season, I'd say Hugill's 10 league goals are the minimum return we should be expecting.
Agree, Thracia. Hugill has improved significantly from what he was when he first arrived, but I can't see us breaking the top 6 glass ceiling with him as our number one striker.